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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: punkynlew1 on June 19, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
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It's taken a long time. Chris Jones had back surgery, but is recovering and has now installed a Garrett GT28 turbo kit on my '08 Connie. I test rode the bike a few days ago and it pulls like a freight train all the way to near 180 mph indicated. It then hit the speed limiter. A Speedohealer V4 is on order to defeat the limiter and a Pingel electric shifter is coming too. I expect delivery of the completed bike in 2 weeks. A Cooling Mist water/methanol injection system is also installed. Carillo forged turbo 9.5 CP pistons are used as well as numerous beefed up springs, etc. Also has Soupy's adjustable lowering links and side stand as well as a front end lowering strap for the track. Boost now at 7 psi for 230 hp. I told Chris to bump it to 250 hp. Very well mannered and stealthy street bike with everything hidden behind plastics, a real sleeper, until I twist the throttle for boost. Then, it's hang on time. File too big for even 1 more pic. Lew
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Sounds Like a blast. Enjoy the Ride. 8)
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Sweet! 8) :thumbs: :thumbs: :hail:
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Nice, project pics please (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/bigthumb.gif)
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It's taken a long time. Chris Jones had back surgery, but is recovering and has now installed a Garrett GT28 turbo kit on my '08 Connie. I test rode the bike a few days ago and it pulls like a freight train all the way to near 180 mph indicated. It then hit the speed limiter. A Speedohealer V4 is on order to defeat the limiter and a Pingel electric shifter is coming too. I expect delivery of the completed bike in 2 weeks. A Cooling Mist water/methanol injection system is also installed. Carillo forged turbo 9.5 CP pistons are used as well as numerous beefed up springs, etc. Also has Soupy's adjustable lowering links and side stand as well as a front end lowering strap for the track. Boost now at 7 psi for 230 hp. I told Chris to bump it to 250 hp. Very well mannered and stealthy street bike with everything hidden behind plastics, a real sleeper, until I twist the throttle for boost. Then, it's hang on time. Lew
Pardon the digression, but I wanted to ask, is this, THIS punky and lew?
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/motormark/Punky_n_Lew.html (http://www.angelfire.com/mo/motormark/Punky_n_Lew.html)
Apologies in advance if not, just had to ask. Thanks.
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Pardon the digression, but I wanted to ask, is this, THIS punky and lew?
http://www.angelfire.com/mo/motormark/Punky_n_Lew.html (http://www.angelfire.com/mo/motormark/Punky_n_Lew.html)
Apologies in advance if not, just had to ask. Thanks.
Yes, that's us. I'm soon to be 75. Punky is still with me and soon to be eighteen.
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Great to see it done Sir. :) Have to get a GoPro now and do some recording for posterity, heheh.
BTW, what gen C14 do you have? the first gen C14 doesn't have a speed limiter., but I would advise that you ditch the bags anytime you want to go play at speeds over 160mph. The aerodynamics and buffeting around the hard luggage can get pretty, erm... sketchy at speeds higher than that.
...welcome to the insanity. ;D
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(http://www.mrpepsi.com/needpics.gif) ;D
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BTW, what gen C14 do you have?
"and has now installed a Garrett GT28 turbo kit on my '08 Connie. "
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It's an '08.
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Sorry.... sometimes my head is so far up my ass that I forget to -read-. :)
Buuuutt, you should have no speed limiter. If you had the bags on you were probably just running out of power to push it through the air at that speed. 7psi starting from 9.5:1 compression is probably not enough power to push the bike much faster than that with all the luggage on. Hell, it might have a hard time of anything faster with the bags off... it takes an insane amount of power to push something with this much frontal area/COD ratio through the air at those speeds. You run out of speedometer at 180, but it'll keep pulling if you have the room... you just have to do the math for mph from your tach or a gps. :)
Be careful exploring it, stuff has a habit of materializing out of thin air at those speeds, heheh.
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Yes, that's us. I'm soon to be 75. Punky is still with me and soon to be eighteen.
We met some years back at a Dixie Dual Sport adventure ride, you hand punky with you... this little guy...
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h90/tmbevtfd/punky_goggles.jpg)
Still riding with the pup?
Take care.
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I hate to ask this question, but .....
How much have you invested in upgrading your '08 C14 to 250hp? Curiosity is getting the best of me!
Aaron
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Great to see it done Sir. :) Have to get a GoPro now and do some recording for posterity, heheh.
BTW, what gen C14 do you have? the first gen C14 doesn't have a speed limiter., but I would advise that you ditch the bags anytime you want to go play at speeds over 160mph. The aerodynamics and buffeting around the hard luggage can get pretty, erm... sketchy at speeds higher than that.
...welcome to the insanity. ;D
180 indicated is probably about 170 actual - my speedo is 10 mph fast at 160 indicated. You state that the 08 does not have a speed limiter, are you sure? The only reason I ask is that it's possible that everyone just assumes that because they won't pull anywhere near 170 stock so nobody has seen it.
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Sorry.... sometimes my head is so far up my ass that I forget to -read-. :)
Buuuutt, you should have no speed limiter. If you had the bags on you were probably just running out of power to push it through the air at that speed. 7psi starting from 9.5:1 compression is probably not enough power to push the bike much faster than that with all the luggage on. Hell, it might have a hard time of anything faster with the bags off... it takes an insane amount of power to push something with this much frontal area/COD ratio through the air at those speeds. You run out of speedometer at 180, but it'll keep pulling if you have the room... you just have to do the math for mph from your tach or a gps. :)
Be careful exploring it, stuff has a habit of materializing out of thin air at those speeds, heheh.
Had no luggage. Lew
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Its no secret the Zx14 and C14's have speed limiters. We used speedo-healers to cheat that on our ZX14s
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We met some years back at a Dixie Dual Sport adventure ride, you hand punky with you... this little guy...
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h90/tmbevtfd/punky_goggles.jpg)
Still riding with the pup?
Take care.
No. Punky is soon to be 18 and is nearly blind. His hearing is bad and he has few teeth left. But, he's still with me. Lew
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How much have you invested in upgrading your '08 C14 to 250hp? Curiosity is getting the best of me!
I'd be interested to know this as well.
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I'd be interested to know this as well.
Me 3!! Respect.
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Its no secret the Zx14 and C14's have speed limiters. We used speedo-healers to cheat that on our ZX14s
200mph On a Concours 1400?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5APyfGd0Kk#ws)
...the math for speed is in the video description, as it pulls off the speedo in 5th gear. :) Nothing was done to the bike as far as trying to defeat any speed limiter. It kept pulling 6th, but I was running out of safe road to see how much further it would go.
The 2nd gen C14's are limited. No one would know if the 1st gens were unless they had around 100hp worth of nitrous or a turbo, regardless of what kind of electronic trickery was bolted to it
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It was my understanding (OK, its from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_motorcycles#Gentlemen.27s_agreement_to_end_competition) ::) ) that most major motorcycle manufacturers made a gentleman's agreement to limit at 186mph/300kph (C14 gen1) and that Kawasaki decided on it's own to limit genII C14s to 155mph/250kph. I believe the the genII limits were brought to light by the reflash people (Guhl, et al)
Sound right?
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No. Punky is soon to be 18 and is nearly blind. His hearing is bad and he has few teeth left. But, he's still with me. Lew
Sorry to hear that, but you've clearly taken excellent care of him and given him a world of adventure! Wow, 18... that's awesome, I always remember that day, you had a real hard time with the restaurant owner or manager we were at (when I took that shot) because of the dog inside, and I think that both you and Swampy told the guy Punky was a service dog or something like that.. lol
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180 indicated is probably about 170 actual - my speedo is 10 mph fast at 160 indicated. You state that the 08 does not have a speed limiter, are you sure? The only reason I ask is that it's possible that everyone just assumes that because they won't pull anywhere near 170 stock so nobody has seen it.
I've seen an indicated 167 mph (GPS) on my old '07 once. It had more power to give but I lacked the road. :-X
The stock '07 was PLENTY powerful enough to get up to those speeds for me. 8)
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I've seen an indicated 167 mph (GPS) on my old '07 once. It had more power to give but I lacked the road. :-X
The stock '07 was PLENTY powerful enough to get up to those speeds for me. 8)
A 2007 C-10 or a 2008 C-14?
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I called Kawasaki headquarters customer service and asked if there is a speed limiter on 2008 and 2009 C14s and was told "yes." I made sure they understood I was not talking about a rev limiter. Lew
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I called Kawasaki headquarters customer service and asked if there is a speed limiter on 2008 and 2009 C14s and was told "yes." I made sure they understood I was not talking about a rev limiter. Lew
Great news Lew! I'm sure all of us here want to see you make it to 80 yrs.old............ so please check those tires before hitting Mach 1 !
Fretka
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The 08 is speed limited to 182.6 or 186.2...I don't remember which. It is documented here on the forum though. I think the guys that do the reflash determined it.
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...I think it's hysterical that I have actual video proof of a thing, and that people will still ignore the fact. Maybe I just have the one first gen C14 that they forgot to limit, eh? Stranger things have happened I suppose.... like getting factual technical advice from a CSR. :) Regardless, let's not get too far off track. ;D
Enjoy your new missile Lew... and be careful out there. I'd love to hear some updates on how you get along with the "new" bike.
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I'd be interested to know this as well. me 4...HOW MUCH in US dollars!!!!! :feedback:
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Chris Jones asked me to not disclose how little he accepted for this job. Especially, since he pulled and disassembled the engine to install forged turbo pistons. He took a beating and does not want others to get the idea they can get the same thing for the same price. It wasn't cheap, but could have been a lot worse. Sorry for the limited info, but I am honoring Chris' desire. Lew
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...if anyone is really interested in getting it done to your bike, give Chris a call and ask how much he'd charge you. :) Quotes are free, and it's always gratifying as a builder to get some inquiries and/or feedback on the prototype work you've done for others.
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fair enough, how do I contact him? :)
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fair enough, how do I contact him? :)
www.jonesperformancecycle.com (http://www.jonesperformancecycle.com)
phone: 352-490-8068
Lew
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THX!!! :)
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A 2007 C-10 or a 2008 C-14?
It was the first of the new C14's when they just came out late '07. I got one of the very first ones to hit my area at that time.
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It was the first of the new C14's when they just came out late '07. I got one of the very first ones to hit my area at that time.
OK, you have a 2008 gen1 C14 :)