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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Kinetic1 on June 18, 2012, 08:13:27 AM
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I was frustrated by not being able to find a modular I liked that didn't cost an arm and two legs (read Shuberth) so I went to look at an open face. I bought an HJC IS-33. Absolutely fantastic helmet. The flip down visor is a nice touch and it is cool and way quieter with the clear shield down than I expected.
I did have to buy an XL and put size small cheek pads in it to get a proper fit but I may never wear my full face again. It is so nice to be able to drink something while riding and to open the shields at a light to cool down and having the flip down sun visor means I can ride with the main shield up and still have some eye protection.
I hadn't worn an open face helmet since I was a kid and that is all there was. I'm so happy I gave them another chance.
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Hope you enjoy your new helmet. Statistically speaking, a lot of miles get ridden without the worst-case need of a helmet, and only one third of those scenarios involve chin impacts.
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Might as well put a skid lid on IMHO.
I am a true believer in helmets after high siding my RZ350 when I was younger.
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Open face helmet? :o
Well I hope you never crash at speed or you can kiss your face goodbye...
I'll never run an open face helmet, but that's because my face is just too damn pretty... ;D ;) 8)
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Sort of humorous that the sig lines of those citing the lack of safety of open-face helmets seem to encourage drinking booze. Alcohol use adds far more risk to motorcycling than use of a less-than-full-face helmet. QCTM
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The TEE would be dead if it weren't for a full face helmet.
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Sort of humorous that the sig lines of those citing the lack of safety of open-face helmets seem to encourage drinking booze. Alcohol use adds far more risk to motorcycling than use of a less-than-full-face helmet. QCTM
Cheers :chugbeer:
http://www.thebeerbelly.com/?Click=491 (http://www.thebeerbelly.com/?Click=491)
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Click the link and imagine this riders face. If he rides again, I bet he wears a full face helmet.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18893079&postcount=12181 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18893079&postcount=12181)
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Called a "faceplant" for a reason, I wouldnt even go with a half-lid if I rode a Goldwing.
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I wear the Scropion EXO 900, which can be transformed into a three-quarters open face helmet. While I like that feature for the 85+ hot summer days, I don't know that I will be using it because of the limited protection in the event of a crash - plus it is no good if you get caught in rain.
Speaking to the benefits of a full face helmet, a buddy of mine was seriously injured a couple weeks ago (broken toes, leg and hip) after a crash with a car at an intersection. No alcohol was involved, and he says he was going less than 20 mph. His full face helmet is cracked in the chin area, and there is blood on the face shield. My guess is that he would have had serious facial and head injuries had he not been wearing a
full face helmet.
Another friend of mine, who wears an open face helmet, suffered a broken tooth and serveral other facial injuries when he had a dizzy spell and fell off his bike while stopped.
So much for the open face helmet, I just won't ride when it gets real hot.
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Sort of humorous that the sig lines of those citing the lack of safety of open-face helmets seem to encourage drinking booze. Alcohol use adds far more risk to motorcycling than use of a less-than-full-face helmet. QCTM
That's a pretty big jump Clyde. Just because a guy likes to drink beer does not mean that he does so and then rides his bike. I myself like my beer but I love my bike. The two never mix, I won't even have one beer if I plan on riding.
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That's a pretty big jump Clyde. Just because a guy likes to drink beer does not mean that he does so and then rides his bike. I myself like my beer but I love my bike. The two never mix, I won't even have one beer if I plan on riding.
If you read my post carefully, there was no jump at all. Just an observation of the humorous juxtaposition, and an observation of the risks of mixing alcohol and riding. I salute you for having the good judgement to keep the two activites separated.
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I hit every bar on the right and sometimes I gotta turn around :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
JK
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Click the link and imagine this riders face. If he rides again, I bet he wears a full face helmet.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18893079&postcount=12181 (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18893079&postcount=12181)
Why is he turning left on a right-hand curve?? :o
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Found this page several years ago that provides a perspective on the question "Why should you wear a full-face helmet?"
http://bmwdean.com/swisher.htm (http://bmwdean.com/swisher.htm)
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If you read my post carefully, there was no jump at all. Just an observation of the humorous juxtaposition, and an observation of the risks of mixing alcohol and riding. I salute you for having the good judgement to keep the two activites separated.
I read your post several times and see the same jump as Conrad. While both sentences have independent truth, strung together it is implied you are attempting to correlate them into your own conclusion.
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Hardly-Ableson lid:
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/sidecarcornering.jpg)
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I certainly won't argue the safety factor, but riding motorcycles is inherently dangerous in and of itself. I choose to take that chance every time I get on the bike as do the rest of you. Sure a full face helmet is safer, but an open face helmet is infinitely more safe than a "skid lid" or half helmet. It's a risk I am willing to take. I didn't ask anyone else to, I simply stated that I liked my new helmet and why.
Would you believe I am OSHA and safety compliance as well as fleet manager for the company I work for.....go figure.
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I certainly won't argue the safety factor, but riding motorcycles is inherently dangerous in and of itself. I choose to take that chance every time I get on the bike as do the rest of you. Sure a full face helmet is safer, but an open face helmet is infinitely more safe than a "skid lid" or half helmet. It's a risk I am willing to take. I didn't ask anyone else to, I simply stated that I liked my new helmet and why.
Would you believe I am OSHA and safety compliance as well as fleet manager for the company I work for.....go figure.
Good post, gear natzi's shouldn't impose their beliefs on others. If i elect to buy a hardly-ableson and increase my chances of death wearing a bandana skull cap, thats my right as an adult rider over 18 according to FL law.
Personally I wear a full face street or track, but I don't impose on squids rights either :D
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I agree, it's a choice. If the ultimate value is "safest" then none of us would be riding.
But an open face is not "infinitely" more safe than a skid lid. ;) It's certainly safer, but not infinitely so. LOL Of course, a full face is nowhere near "infinitely" safer than an open face, or 1/2 helmet, or skid lid either.
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You know what I meant... :)
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Hope you enjoy your new helmet. Statistically speaking, a lot of miles get ridden without the worst-case need of a helmet, and only one third of those scenarios involve chin impacts.
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Nobody said a full face was designed for comfort, it is safety. A full face helmet is much safer than a 3/4 (open face/chin). A modular is better, but only if it is closed (and even then it might not be as strong).
Yes, helmet selection is a matter of choice, but when something is already inherently dangerous, one would typically want to mitigate that the best reasonably possible. (Please note: I don't approve of or support helmet laws or seat belt laws for adults, because I think such laws are unconstitutional. But I ALWAYS use both).
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What maxtog said... Of course, the asphalt surfing I did on the 405 back in '84 sealed my fate... I'll always wear a FF helmet. I hope none of us ever have to put our helmets to the test.
lt1... I prefer depth charges... A pint of Guinness and a dropped shot of Drambuie... A few of those and I can't even find the keys if I wanted to.
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I hit every bar on the right and sometimes I gotta turn around :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
JK
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
??? Oh wait, you were joking?? ... :-X ;) ;D
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I read your post several times and see the same jump as Conrad. While both sentences have independent truth, strung together it is implied you are attempting to correlate them into your own conclusion.
Yep, +1... I took it the same way Clyde... :chugbeer:
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I'm not a big proponent of using the word "safe" when it comes to describing motorcycling or motorcycle gear. I recall the dictionary definition of "safe" being "the absence of risk." Merriam-Webster states "free from harm or risk." Since we can't do anything in life with an absence of risk, my opinion is that use of good protective gear, including full face helmets, continued rider training and practice will go a lomg way to help minimize risk of fatal or critical injury.
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Well, do all you jumpers agree that alcohol use is involved in a disproportionate percentage of bike crashes and fatalities?
Do you all agree that a 3/4 helmet is less of a safety risk than drinking and riding?
Can you not see the humor of a guy with a beer in his hand calling a guy with a 3/4 helmet on his head an unsafe or high-risk rider?
Cut and stop. Either you see the irony or you don't.
But let's continue the discussion. Not every rider that drinks rides while drinking, drunk or under the influenence, either in the absolute or the legal sense. That should be a given. But it should be pretty clear that riders who drink ride under the influence (either legal or absolute) far more often than riders who don't drink. I don't know, nor did I accuse, whether the first two posters rider after drinking. I don't have to know that answer to see the irony. But if I had to bet, I'd bet that the OP has never had, and will never have, a crash where he needed the extra protection of a full-face helmet vs a 3/4 far sooner than I would bet that the next 2 posters never have and never will ride with even the slightest trace of alcohol in their systems. Obviously, I do not know which, if either, bet would be a good idea, but that's how I percieve the odds.
No offense was intended, but I'm still very comfortable with the post, and with my statement that there was no jump (assuming a jump to conclusions was meant) made by me.
Have a nice day.
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Well, do all you jumpers agree that alcohol use is involved in a disproportionate percentage of bike crashes and fatalities?
Do you all agree that a 3/4 helmet is less of a safety risk than drinking and riding?
Can you not see the humor of a guy with a beer in his hand calling a guy with a 3/4 helmet on his head an unsafe or high-risk rider?
If I had a pic of a gal with boobies bouncing in my sig (like such (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/boobiesbounce3z.gif)) would you then say that guys who like boobies bouncing are just as dangerous as half helmets... I don't think so.
In short, yep I love beer, but I don't mix beer and riding, and yep having a half helment is just stupid if you're wearing it for protection...
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/sniwoue.gif).... I'm not riding tonight. :) :grouphug:
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Riding a motorcycle is not safe...It's all about what personal decisions you make to mitigate that risk by use of riding gear. It's obvious where I stand on the helmet issue.
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What maxtog said... Of course, the asphalt surfing I did on the 405 back in '84 sealed my fate... I'll always wear a FF helmet. I hope none of us ever have to put our helmets to the test.
lt1... I prefer depth charges... A pint of Guinness and a dropped shot of Drambuie... A few of those and I can't even find the keys if I wanted to.
Another plus for KIPASS! ;)
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I've used both Nolan & HJC modular helmets and find them to be great for the price. I had one low-side and slid through gravel face down and It's funny, my only thought was, I'm glad I have a full cover helmet. My life didn't flash before my eyes, just the thought about the helmet between me and the gravel.