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Title: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on June 09, 2012, 12:32:54 PM
My plan is to do a long (1-2 month) ride either to Alaska and back or possibly a four corners ride once I get out of the Army.  I would like to do a smaller ride this fall and have started buying gear.  My first big purchase was a Kelty Grand Mesa 2 tent with DAC aluminum poles.  I am set as far as sleeping bags go since I have several of differing weights.  I also bought some REI stuff sacks orgnanize my clothing and other small items. 

Here is the list of stuff that I know I will need to acquire, if you have a suggestion of where to pick one up at a reasonable rate go ahead and post up.  If you see that I have omitted anything go ahead and post that up too. 

1. tent stakes
2. tent footprint/tarp
3. alcohol stove (probably the smaller less expensive version)
4. chair (anything better than a Kermit chair?)
5. mattress or pad (I might just use a PT mat)
6. LED lantern
7. hatchet
8. mallet (or should I not waste the space and just use the hatchet or E-tool for hammer duties?)
9. small supply of field stripped MRE's (I will eat as much fresh food as possible)
10. 1-2 gallon water container





Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: lt1 on June 09, 2012, 12:58:28 PM
I have found the following checklists to be helpful for trip planning:

http://micapeak.com/checklists/mclist.html (http://micapeak.com/checklists/mclist.html)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Ron Dawg on June 09, 2012, 08:19:01 PM
Jeremy, I've camped a lot with scouts and tried to do it cheap. But: some places you can skimp, some you can't. Buy good aluminum tent pegs. The cheap ones from WalMart will bend in your hands. I'd also carry maybe 4 of those long nail looking stakes with the plastic ends for rocky ground.

A cheap mallet is okay, you might find a $3 rubber mallet at Big Lots or somewhere. Or just use the hatchet. Spend the $10 or so for a tent pole repair kit and take some duct tape around your water bottle. Or get a six inch piece of tubing that will slide over the tent pole to stablize a kink or break. Tape it with the duct tape. A small tube of seam seal or goop and some duct tape will fix a hole in your tent. Put the tape on inside and outside of the hole and cover it with goop.

For a ground cloth, set your tent on a big piece of 6 mil plastic and draw around the tent edge with a sharpie. If you use black plastic, just cut round the tent. Cut out the plastic with scissors. If you know someone who builds houses, see if you can score a big piece of Tyvek house wrap. It's tough and light. Cut it the same way. Try your tent in the rain or under a sprinkler and make sure it doesn't leak. Cut a little piece the size of your vestibule so you have a place to put  your boots outside.

Tarps: Depending on how much weight you want or want to spend, pick up a cheapie at Lowe's.  UV rays ruin tarps (along with high winds).  Cut some 3/4" wide cross sections out of an old inner tube to make big rubber bands and tie them between the ropes and the grommets for shock absorbers. Bungee cords will work,too.

Carry a collapsible 1-2 gallon jug and one Nalgene bottle. The jug is floppy but guess what? It collapses! I have an MSR vinyl bladder with a piece of cord that I hang up for a hand washing station, dish rinsing station, and for a drinking bladder.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Son of Pappy on June 09, 2012, 09:38:50 PM
Jeremy, I'll see about laying my kit out and snapping some pics, along with desrciptions.  It's all been selected with the idea of packing on the bike and being somewhere in the middle of nowhere.  Something to consider is dual use, such as a multi fuel stove, the gas not used ofr cooking can be used in the bike if needed.  I started with this, but have since upgraded to the jet boil setup, I also have an LP lantern, small, very bright, and a source of heat for the tent, really nice after a day of riding in the rain.  A must have piece of gear, a good lod fashioned poncho, with liner if space allows.  Roadside repairs, setting up camp, extra coverage, just hard to beat.  I'll also see about setting up the Redverdz tent and parking the 14 or KLR inside.  It is an awesome bit of kit, big, but o so worth it.  Something that is an almost must item, light weight shoes.  A small chair would be a bonus, but is down at the bottom of the list.  Use a dry bag partially emptied, propped against whatever is handy.  Top of the list is something for fixing tires, a coupla small C)2 type cylinders and the plugs of your choosing.  E Tools are awesome, but heavy, Gerber makes a really nice compact shoevl that also has an area for driving pegs.  This is also an almost must have, this and a small saw will feed the fire and also be on hand to make trenches should the rain turn your tent into a swimming pool.  You already know how important socks are, bring more then you think you'll need.  At least one extra (read third pair) of gloves.  Don't forget a good compact first aid kit, I always have one pack of clotting agent, I'm sure you can get your hands on at least one pack.  Another idea, get a good water filter from REI, much smaller then packing a coupla gallons of water (beyond the requisite camal back).  Also consider a small cooler, cloth sided.  A last bit of advice, seemless shorts.  Some scars just aint sexy 8)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: koval68 on June 09, 2012, 09:46:06 PM
I am a big fan of tent hammocks, they pack small, are very light and offer a great level of comfort and support!
Check out other ultralight gear on their website.
 
http://hennessyhammock.com/ (http://hennessyhammock.com/)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: jimmymac on June 10, 2012, 06:55:55 AM
Ever check out Roadrunner magazine? They've had quite a few articles on camping on the go. Lots of good tips there. 8)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on June 10, 2012, 07:29:15 AM
Lots of great tips here. 

@RonDawg:  I am probably gonna buy the footprint made for my tent unless I can get my hands on one and see that a regular tarp can do just as good of a job protecting my tent.  The MSR water bladders had already caught my eye.  I picked out some aluminum MSR ground hog stakes that are supposed to be the cat's meow.  $2.50 a pop but I know how much of a pain it is to deal with garbage stakes (been in the Army for 12 years).

@SOP:  Here is what I have been looking at for an inexpensive cooking setup.

http://www.rei.com/product/769473/optimus-crux-lite-cooking-system (http://www.rei.com/product/769473/optimus-crux-lite-cooking-system) 

First aid kit is always on my bike and I have a couple packs of quikclot along with a couple tourniquets. That is an area where I hope to never be caught short.  Gloves, socks, underwear, and shirts are always abundant in my bags.  Should I carry the CO2 cartridges instead of my normal compressor?  I always have my plug/patch kit and compressor, they don't take up much room and I like having the light that is built into the compressor.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Son of Pappy on June 10, 2012, 09:49:18 AM
http://www.rei.com/product/784354/primus-easylight-lantern-with-piezo (http://www.rei.com/product/784354/primus-easylight-lantern-with-piezo)
Here's the lantern I got, used my points at the end of the year from REI.  Works great, really bright and puts out a fair amount of heat, also uses the same canisters as the stove.  I pack 3 of the fuel cylinders, 2 of the large and one small.  I have a small compressor, takes up way more space then the CO2 does, I may even get a coupla more.  I got the large ones, 'cuz we all know, size does matter ;) http://www.cyclegear.com/eng/product/monster_air_chuck_co2_tire_inflation_and_repair_kit/web1002921 (http://www.cyclegear.com/eng/product/monster_air_chuck_co2_tire_inflation_and_repair_kit/web1002921)
Space and weight become premium and cheaper won't always work when ya needit.  I would not use the CO2 kit on a car or truck, I'd use the compressor, I'd also use the compressor on short trips, but long trips?  Also, unless your'e travelling during the cold seasons do you really NEED a sleeping pad?  This is another thing the dry bag could come in handy, all I ever need is a slim layer at the hips and shoulders, a sweatshirt in the shoulder area, and folded jeans at the hips, jacket liner works great for a pillow.  And this brings up why a bigger tent is so so handy, a place to hang wet gear to dry out and room for you to avoid the wet gear, this is also where the heat comes in.  Pack only what you need, should you have extra space, fill it with socks ;D
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Ron Dawg on June 10, 2012, 06:42:59 PM
 A multi fuel stove is nice if it also burns gasoline.  Check out the "Sterilite" pen (think it's spelled right) which uses ultraviolet light to purify water. Also, when I backpack in the summer, I'll use a 3/4 length thermarest and an inflatable pillow. I put my clothes  under my legs and I'm good to go. Have fun.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Taff on June 10, 2012, 07:34:02 PM
My plan is to do a long (1-2 month) ride either to Alaska and back or possibly a four corners ride once I get out of the Army.  I would like to do a smaller ride this fall and have started buying gear.  My first big purchase was a Kelty Grand Mesa 2 tent with DAC aluminum poles.  I am set as far as sleeping bags go since I have several of differing weights.  I also bought some REI stuff sacks orgnanize my clothing and other small items. 

Here is the list of stuff that I know I will need to acquire, if you have a suggestion of where to pick one up at a reasonable rate go ahead and post up.  If you see that I have omitted anything go ahead and post that up too. 

1. tent stakes
2. tent footprint/tarp
3. alcohol stove (probably the smaller less expensive version)
4. chair (anything better than a Kermit chair?)
5. mattress or pad (I might just use a PT mat)
6. LED lantern
7. hatchet
8. mallet (or should I not waste the space and just use the hatchet or E-tool for hammer duties?)
9. small supply of field stripped MRE's (I will eat as much fresh food as possible)
10. 1-2 gallon water container

Jeremy don't forget to pack one of those adjustable LED flashlights that you can wear on your head  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Roadhound on June 11, 2012, 11:05:55 AM
1. tent stakes
2. tent footprint/tarp
3. alcohol stove (probably the smaller less expensive version)
4. chair (anything better than a Kermit chair?)
5. mattress or pad (I might just use a PT mat)
6. LED lantern
7. hatchet
8. mallet (or should I not waste the space and just use the hatchet or E-tool for hammer duties?)
9. small supply of field stripped MRE's (I will eat as much fresh food as possible)
10. 1-2 gallon water container

Easton makes some aluminum stakes look similar to arrow shafts, lightweight, durable, and work anywhere except solid rock. I purchased mine in 1990. still work very well.

Chair, if you want a chair nothing comes close to the Kermit. I've been using mine for about 14 years still going strong, and very comfy.

Mattress ,pad, The EXPED Downmat is the most comfortable mattress I've ever slept on. Has it's own built in pump.

LED lantern, you may find that a LED headlight will give you all the light you need. Bright lights ruin your night vision, there is a lot to see when your camped at night, amazing star shows, critters etc. Things you will not see if sitting near a bright light.

I use a Gerber hatchet, works well for many things including driving tent pegs.

Enjoy
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: twowheeladdict on October 25, 2012, 05:31:41 PM
I prefer the jetboil system and some Mountain House Meals.  Eat lunch in a Wendy's or KFC and snag some plastic wrapped utensils for a couple nights meals.  Nothing to clean up.

http://www.jetboil.com/ (http://www.jetboil.com/)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Nosmo on October 25, 2012, 06:10:45 PM
Lots of good comments so far.  +1 on the water filter and multi-fuel stove.  White gas, kerosene, diesel, unleaded auto gas will likely be easier to come by where you are going than alcohol, and they have more BTU's.  MSR makes a great multi-fuel unit.  My favorite backpacking stove is the tiny Snow Peak unit that takes the iso-butane/propane cartridges, but those may not be readily available, and don't work as well as liquid fuels when it's below freeaing.  Water should be plentiful up to and including Alaska, good to carry some, but also be able to make as much as you need in some circumstances.  If your bike cooling system springs a leak, you may have to use your drinking water to get along. You'll need to make more.  When I back-pack, I always put a Space Blanket in the tent, silver side up.  It reflects a lot of heat and keeps my tent several degrees warmer as well as making a great vapor barrier, and survival wrap if need be.  Get a good hatchet and forgo the mallet, save weight and space.  I try to make as much of my stuff "multi-use" as possible.  I like the curved, "nesting" type of aluminum tent pegs, with the lightening holes in them.  In snow, the holes let the snow go through and refreeze, which helps to hold them in.  LED head lamps are the greatest invention ever.  I have five, keep one in each truck, one for shop use, one in my "bug-out" bag, one for backpacking.  I HATE trying to hold a tiny flashlight (or worse yet a 3-D-cell Maglite) in my teeth when trying to repair something in the freezing rain at midnight.  A good full-size Leatherman tool can be useful, but won't be a substitute for a full toolkit.  I have a Wave, and a Sidekick.  Another BIG +1 is a comfortable sleeping arrangement, pad, air mattress or whatever you prefer.  I love my Thermarest, but they are spendy.  Whatever you decide on, use it for a week or so at home, and make SURE it's what  you want.  Lack of good sleep is a very bad thing, makes the whole trip more tiring, aggravating and dangerously fatiguing.  Good earplugs.  If you don't use them now, suggest you find some you like and get used to them.  Noise is fatiguing and a looooong day in the saddle can make you really wacky as well as the hearing damage (but that's a whole 'nuther thread).

http://www.sunnysports.com/Prod/MSRWI.html?&& (http://www.sunnysports.com/Prod/MSRWI.html?&&)

http://www.rei.com/gear/feature/search/Google/snowpeak%20stoves?s_kwcid=TC (http://www.rei.com/gear/feature/search/Google/snowpeak%20stoves?s_kwcid=TC)|13029|snowpeak%20stoves||S|e|15196216565&gclid=CL-brpGynbMCFYF7Qgod1X0AWw
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Sgt Mac on October 25, 2012, 06:57:58 PM
Another BIG +1 is a comfortable sleeping arrangement, pad, air mattress or whatever you prefer.  I love my Thermarest, but they are spendy.  Whatever you decide on, use it for a week or so at home, and make SURE it's what  you want.  Lack of good sleep is a very bad thing, makes the whole trip more tiring, aggravating and dangerously fatiguing.

Definitely. IMO a good sleeping pad is worth every penny. A PT pad is going to take up twice as much room as most good commercial pads...and be nowhere near as comfortable. The test drive period is a great idea as well, may save you quite a bit of grief in the long run. 

There's a lot of good advice in this thread, glad I clicked on it.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Miss Silvera on October 26, 2012, 11:57:24 AM
I like your stove choice as I have the older version of that and It has never failed me.   It has been all over the country and even in high elevations in AK it worked good. Gas canisters are about at every outdoor shop and Wally World too.

I would add to your list a head lamp...(which has been mentioned)....very very useful and more so than a flashlight as it is hands free and so much easier to use.

here is something to think about with battery powered items...C123 batteries are harder to find and more expensive, AA and AAA are cheaper and easier to find if needed.   Try and get all your batery stuff the same battery useage.   I prefer the C123 size, but I buy them in bulk so I always have extras..
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: sherob on October 26, 2012, 12:06:16 PM
Checkout www.motocampers.com (http://www.motocampers.com)  tons of great info for motorcycle campers.  8)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Miss Silvera on October 26, 2012, 12:09:12 PM
I wanna add one more thing....WATERPROOF BAGS!  Lke you use in the kayak and the boat.   They are easy to strap on, easy to use, you can stuff em full and use them as a pillow at night ...

You can get colored ones and clear ones  all different sizes....I don't and wouldn't leave on a trip with out my stuff packed in them.....as you can strap them on the bike, the cargo basket, the kayak, where ever.   
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: SteveJ. on October 26, 2012, 05:42:36 PM
I like your stove choice as I have the older version of that and It has never failed me.   It has been all over the country and even in high elevations in AK it worked good. Gas canisters are about at every outdoor shop and Wally World too.

I would add to your list a head lamp...(which has been mentioned)....very very useful and more so than a flashlight as it is hands free and so much easier to use.

here is something to think about with battery powered items...C123 batteries are harder to find and more expensive, AA and AAA are cheaper and easier to find if needed.   Try and get all your batery stuff the same battery useage.   I prefer the C123 size, but I buy them in bulk so I always have extras..

I was in the market for a camp stove a coupla years ago, One of the things that swayed me away from Jetboil or similar was that my local Wally had an empty shelf where the canisters were supposed to be, more often than not.

So I went old school with one of these:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31SceQEqXsL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

The propane, while not as light as the canisters, is available at every super market, WallyWhirl, hardware store, everywhere. They last about a week to ten days, using for evening meal, morning coffee, and occasional hot water for personal hygiene when stealth camping. The stove can also use the long propane cylinders designed for a hand held torch. I like it. Simple, clean, frugal, instant start, and performs perfectly from simmer to blast. The weight penalty of propane really doesn't come into play with motorcycle camping.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Mettler1 on October 26, 2012, 10:20:13 PM
  I prefer something like Thermarest pad. A leaky air matress is a real bitch in the dark.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: packers on October 27, 2012, 05:29:47 AM
I don't have one, but these look good for MC Camping

http://www.luxurylite.com/ (http://www.luxurylite.com/)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: twowheeladdict on October 27, 2012, 06:09:02 AM
I don't have one, but these look good for MC Camping

http://www.luxurylite.com/ (http://www.luxurylite.com/)

That has got to be one of the cheeziest websites I have seen in a long time.  Doesn't seem like something professional or associated with Thermarest at all even though they use the Thermarest name.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: stevewfl on October 27, 2012, 09:55:20 AM
I prefer places that already include the amenities and re
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 27, 2012, 12:47:07 PM
Since this is a camping thread, how does one make coffee without electricity?  I've been looking at coffee pots (old style) and I can't figure out how it's made without getting all the grounds in the coffee itself.  This is important to me as I may be doing this the old fashioned way within 48 hours.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: sherob on October 27, 2012, 02:07:46 PM
I use a French Press and just boil water.   :)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 27, 2012, 02:33:35 PM
French?  Oh the humanity... :'(   I don't even know what one of those are...  Ok, I just looked it up....seems a bit yuppish to me (no harm intended), but essential to someone extracting the essence from the coffee bean.  I think I may try that but not at the moment.  In looking up the French press I see the more normal percolating coffee pot...  I may go look for one of those this evening but I do like your idea.  I'll have to invest in a hand grinder as well.  I'm just looking for something that will work when the power goes poof.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: SteveJ. on October 27, 2012, 02:47:58 PM
For coffee, I use a Ready Set Joe from Melitta. Simple, frugal, and makes good coffee.

Melitta Ready Set Joe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAHMPJfkrS4#)

Cool tunes on the video, eh?


I picked up my Ready Set Joe at the local Publix market.

I tried the French Press route. It requires quite coarse beans, and was kind of a hassle to clean. Good coffee, though.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: gPink on October 27, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
Since this is a camping thread, how does one make coffee without electricity?  I've been looking at coffee pots (old style) and I can't figure out how it's made without getting all the grounds in the coffee itself.  This is important to me as I may be doing this the old fashioned way within 48 hours.
I've got a stove top perculator type pot. It can be used on a grill or camp fire. It's full size so not bike packable but is great for no power. I've heard of but not tried cracking an egg into a pot of cowboy coffee to settle the grounds.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 27, 2012, 03:35:35 PM
http://www.rei.com/rei/videos/Ooyala.jsp?embedCode=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey&autoplay=1#ooid=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey (http://www.rei.com/rei/videos/Ooyala.jsp?embedCode=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey&autoplay=1#ooid=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Miss Silvera on October 27, 2012, 04:34:50 PM
http://www.rei.com/rei/videos/Ooyala.jsp?embedCode=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey&autoplay=1#ooid=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey (http://www.rei.com/rei/videos/Ooyala.jsp?embedCode=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey&autoplay=1#ooid=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey)


Yep...I like it....
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: ZG on October 27, 2012, 05:13:10 PM
http://www.rei.com/rei/videos/Ooyala.jsp?embedCode=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey&autoplay=1#ooid=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey (http://www.rei.com/rei/videos/Ooyala.jsp?embedCode=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey&autoplay=1#ooid=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey)

 :goodpost:    That looks pretty cool.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: twowheeladdict on October 27, 2012, 05:43:38 PM
Since this is a camping thread, how does one make coffee without electricity?  I've been looking at coffee pots (old style) and I can't figure out how it's made without getting all the grounds in the coffee itself.  This is important to me as I may be doing this the old fashioned way within 48 hours.

I just carry freeze dried coffee in handy packets.  If I am in a hurry I just mix it with my oatmeal.  Coffee flavored oatmeal.  Mmm!
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: sherob on October 27, 2012, 06:06:11 PM
http://www.rei.com/rei/videos/Ooyala.jsp?embedCode=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey&autoplay=1#ooid=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey (http://www.rei.com/rei/videos/Ooyala.jsp?embedCode=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey&autoplay=1#ooid=U2dXV0MTomc2gHTO5archv64Fsncjhey)

I may accidentally lose my press for that...  ;D
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 27, 2012, 09:26:47 PM
Looks pretty darn good, actually.  But I would need 2.  In this case, power might be leaving before I could have one on hand so I went to Gander Mtn in F'burg and bought one of those percolating pots.  Everyone else was buying batteries, flash lights, and emergency gear...  I went for the pot. ::) :-X
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: ZG on October 27, 2012, 10:15:03 PM
Everyone else was buying batteries, flash lights, and emergency gear...  I went for the pot. ::) :-X

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/sjdhquwye.gif)
 
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: sherob on October 27, 2012, 10:27:50 PM
Looks pretty darn good, actually.  But I would need 2.  In this case, power might be leaving before I could have one on hand so I went to Gander Mtn in F'burg and bought one of those percolating pots.  Everyone else was buying batteries, flash lights, and emergency gear...  I went for the pot. ::) :-X

I lived around the Gulf Coast most of my life (Houston, Pensacola, Tampa), we always had a hurricane kit...  even living up here, I still have Coleman stove with 2 lanterns, waterproof matches, candles, 2 gallons of fuel at all times, 2 cases of water, and we keep 2 weeks worth of canned goods in the pantry with a manual can opener.  I ALWAYS have extra bags of coffee and my press.  8) 

Good to see you went for the most important stuff... the, uh... pot.  8)
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: booger on October 28, 2012, 04:43:22 AM
Guys, I won't even go to the grocery store without a handgun.  I would think it a must for a 1-2 month ride.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Miss Silvera on October 28, 2012, 08:07:57 AM
Guys, I won't even go to the grocery store without a handgun.  I would think it a must for a 1-2 month ride.

Yep if you were gonna just be in the lower 48, but then if you wanna ride to AK....you gotta deal with Canada and it's NO PISTOLS border restriction......

Wadda-do?   Strap on the shotgun?
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 28, 2012, 08:36:54 AM
That would look pretty neat...over the back or with one of those horsey type scabbards you have on the side?
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: gPink on October 28, 2012, 09:08:15 AM
I kind of like this.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 28, 2012, 12:11:06 PM
A bit, for sure.  Nice setup!
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: gPink on October 28, 2012, 03:27:14 PM
Jim, have you seasoned that coffee pot yet?
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 28, 2012, 03:37:16 PM
It's enameled.  What do you need to do to 'season' it?  I did wash it out first, though.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: gPink on October 28, 2012, 03:57:35 PM
Not really, just been so long since I've perked a pot of coffee I'd have to do a test run. Check equipment before you need it sort of thing. Hate to wake up in the morning with no power, lights, or water and have to stumble through confusion before coffee. I'm not good before coffee. When I get up at 3:30, I'll run a cup through the SO's one-cup machine so I can function well enough to start a pot in the dripmaker.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 28, 2012, 05:03:18 PM
 ;D   Not any moving parts that I can see.  I've got it loaded with coffee and water so all I have to do is put it on the stove.  Then I just have to watch it, I guess.  How do you know when it's done?  The water in the glass thingy in the top turns coffee colored?
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: gPink on October 28, 2012, 05:29:26 PM
Quits perking?
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 28, 2012, 06:17:33 PM
Why would it stop if it's being heated?  Hot water rises, goes down through the coffee and is picked up again.  I would think that it would continue to perc as long as heat is applied.  Course I'm not scientist and haven't stayed in a Holiday Inn Express lately.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: stevewfl on October 28, 2012, 07:06:45 PM
Where i camp all the gear is usually provided  :D

Examples:

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Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: gPink on October 28, 2012, 07:09:01 PM
The science behind the magic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_percolator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_percolator)

After the percolator is placed on the heat source (such as a range or stove), the temperature rises until the water in the bottom chamber boils. While some models may have a one-way valve at the bottom of the tube which forces some of the boiling water up the tube, most operate on the simple principle that the rising bubbles will force the liquid up the tube. The hot water is distributed at the top over the perforated lid of the coffee chamber. This water then seeps through the coffee grounds and leaves the coffee chamber through the bottom, dropping back into the lower half of the pot. The rest of the colder water at the bottom is meanwhile also forced up the tube, causing this whole cycle to repeat continually.
 
As the brew continually seeps through the grounds, the overall temperature of the liquid approaches boiling point, at which stage the "perking" action (the characteristic spurting sound the pot makes) stops, and the coffee is ready for drinking. In a manual percolator it is important to remove or reduce the heat at this point (keeping in mind the adage "Coffee boiled is coffee spoiled"). Brewed coffee left on high heat for too long will acquire a bitter taste.
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 28, 2012, 08:10:27 PM
Thanks!  Just so you know, I usually camp at Hilton properties.  Hence the questions. 
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: stevewfl on October 29, 2012, 07:43:07 AM
Thanks!  Just so you know, I usually camp at Hilton properties.  Hence the questions.

Hilton works for me too, only reason I prefer an "if available Marriott property" is my rewards frequent flier miles is through them  :D
Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: Miss Silvera on October 29, 2012, 08:03:33 AM
Back to topic...

Jeremy, something else I have found as a must have is a collapsable (sp?) sink.  You can find them made out of nylon and heavy canvas.  I prefer the nylon as it will fold down easily and very packable.   Is a plus for adding in hot water for "bird bathing", face washing, or even to wash some small dishes if you need to when a  sink or shower isn't available.

 Over night you can get a mesh bag to hang up with your wet dishes and stuff and pack your stuff in at other times. 

 Packable towels are nice because they don't take a lot of room, but they are funky feeling to me....I prefer a regular towel .....just have to wash it and dry it as needed.



Title: Re: Starting to acquire camping gear
Post by: connie1 on October 29, 2012, 09:54:12 AM
My wife and I took a two week trip to Alaska  twenty years ago and packed the 30-06 behind the seat of the Grand-Am.  Slept with it in the tent also. Crossing into Alaska was a breeze but coming back to Canada was a little more difficult.  They were more interested in whether I bought it while in Alaska than anything (trying to charge duty).

These days with our _____ gun laws, that would be out of the question without a lot of paperwork, but it might be doable.

We are allowed short shotguns as long as they are factory.  A 12 with OO would go a long way towards not being eaten by a bear and still able to be carried on the bike (rolled up in the tent bag perhaps).
A little research into paperwork needed might be all it takes.

I was also very excited to take my new propane lantern and then realized that the sun hardly makes it below the horizon during the summer.  We were reading in the sunshine a 2 am on June 21 at Dawson City.  Could've used that room for something else.