Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Irish-14 on May 23, 2011, 07:51:38 AM
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Yesterday, riding out of Oatman, AZ on historic route 66, I hit a softball sized, sharp rock head on at about 20 mph. Somehow I was able to keep her up, 2011 C-14 w/ 1.8k mi, only to find that I had severely bent up both rims and tires, rendering the bike un-rideable. A tow truck, a u-haul, and a lot of sweat later, she's resting in my garage awaiting a quote. Everyone in my group was surprised that both rims were damaged to that extent, I was as well. Man, do I wish I saw that rock, ruined a great day for my entire crew. Quick Question: How much do you think it's going to cost me to replace both rims and put a new set of PR2's on? Go Irish!
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From Ron Ayers:
front wheel assy: $579
rear wheel assy: $624
From Murphs:
PR2's: $306 shipped
Plus any labor or any other parts you may have damaged. I suggest getting a high estimate from one or two dealers. Then ordering the parts yourself and installing them. Save some cash on the deal doing it yourself!
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Quick Question: How much do you think it's going to cost me to replace both rims and put a new set of PR2's on? Go Irish!
Man, sorry to hear about the bad luck. They may be repairable, this is a link to a friend of mine who repairs bent wheels
http://www.mindspring.com/~wheelbendermender/wheelbender01.htm (http://www.mindspring.com/~wheelbendermender/wheelbender01.htm)
Hopefully he can help
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Wow! Good job keeping her up! That should be interesting getting your insurance company to pay, did you call em?
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Pics?? Curious how bad it looks.
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:yikes:
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I hit a piece of a 4X4 on my Gold Wind once doing about 60 MPH, scary as heck but I kept it up and never bent a rim or wrecked a tire, I would think that the rims on your concours should take a rock at 20 mph. Good luck with the repairs.
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Go Irish!
Did you hit a Leprechaun instead? Might have been cheaper because you could get his pot o' gold. :)
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Are you sure it was 20mph? I race motocross and hit lots of rocks (sometimes intentionally :P) at higher speeds than that and rarely even ding the rim. And you've got a tougher rim with a lot more rubber around it.
[Or if "20mph" is what you were telling the insurance guy, I get it . . .]
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Must be some soft rims, I've hit some bad pot holes on the interstate at night w/no dammage.
Good luck with repairs.
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Rims on a street bike are softer than you think if you hit them just right.
I bent both rims hitting a huge chuckhole merging on the interstate when I had my FJR. It was over $1200.00 with new bearings and all. I turned it in to Insurance and my insurance doubled the next year so I changed companies.
My latest adventure Saturday was hitting a buzzard that popped up from the weeds at the side of the road 20 feet in front of me while I'm doing 70 MPH. Took out my headlights and upper fairing. Around $650.00 to fix it. I won't turn this one in.
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rims on ebay for $200-$250
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I hit a fallen rock last year on 66 along the Ohio river west of Louisville going 60+. Bent front rim, but missed the back. Bike was amazingly stable (at least more than I would expect never having blown a front tire before, maybe the death grip I put on the handlebars had something to do with it...) as I was able to stop the bike upright on the shoulder. Be sure check underneath for any other damage. The rock I hit came up and hit oil drain bolt as well (seems the shield protected it or it would have probably caused a leak, wonder if that's why they moved them on the 2010+ models). Shop will charge lots of labor to change out an oil pan as header has to be removed.
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From Ron Ayers:
front wheel assy: $579
rear wheel assy: $624
From Murphs:
PR2's: $306 shipped
Plus any labor or any other parts you may have damaged. I suggest getting a high estimate from one or two dealers. Then ordering the parts yourself and installing them. Save some cash on the deal doing it yourself!
Ummm...is that legal? It is also why many insurance companies are now submitting a form 1099 along with the repair check ...both made out to the shop...it is an expense on the part of the insurance company...and is passed-on as DOCUMENTED income to the shop...fewer shops are willing to cross that line anymore...the amount of the check is the amount for the repair...they probably don't like you THAT much!
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Ummm...is that legal? It is also why many insurance companies are now submitting a form 1099 along with the repair check ...both made out to the shop...it is an expense on the part of the insurance company...and is passed-on as DOCUMENTED income to the shop...fewer shops are willing to cross that line anymore...the amount of the check is the amount for the repair...they probably don't like you THAT much!
It is legal for you to perform the work on your bike. They may require an inspection to insure that it has been done. But they figure the labor rate to have the work done. It's your choice where you have it done. It's also your choice should you choose to perform the labor yourself. Why should you work for free or have to trust someone else. But like I said proof of repairs may be required to continue the proper coverage.
I repaired my bike when the young women hit the bike last Augest. The Progressive adjuster cut me a check and even suggested that I do it myself. The down side of repairing yourself, may be making more adjustments if other problems are found. A shop would probably have an easier time getting more out of them!
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Ummm...is that legal? It is also why many insurance companies are now submitting a form 1099 along with the repair check ...both made out to the shop...it is an expense on the part of the insurance company...and is passed-on as DOCUMENTED income to the shop...fewer shops are willing to cross that line anymore...the amount of the check is the amount for the repair...they probably don't like you THAT much!
I always get a check made out to me from my insurance company. I haven't had any claims for my bikes, but for my cages I always have money left over, even after the insurance company keeps my $250 deductible.
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Here you go, the picture, never as bad as it seemed in real life. That's the actual rock I hit, still wondering how you don't see something that size. Will add another pick of the bike getting loaded. Bike at the shop right now, said that the front rim needs to be replaced and the tires as well. Rear rim will get looked at tomorrow to see if it can be repaired. Front forks and rest all in good shape. Leprechaun comments were funny! Go Irish!
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Man that looks bad.....
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Now that's a big damn rock! Now I can understand the damage level.
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The more I look at the picture, it's almost like slamming into a curb at 20-25mph. I'm so lucky I hit that thing straight on, could've been painful. My friends said my rear was as high as my head, would've loved to see a video of my fat arse in the air. Go Irish!
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Looks like a chunk of B-stone (granite). Lucky you did'nt crash.
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Rims on a street bike are softer than you think if you hit them just right.
I bent both rims hitting a huge chuckhole merging on the interstate when I had my FJR. It was over $1200.00 with new bearings and all. I turned it in to Insurance and my insurance doubled the next year so I changed companies.
My latest adventure Saturday was hitting a buzzard that popped up from the weeds at the side of the road 20 feet in front of me while I'm doing 70 MPH. Took out my headlights and upper fairing. Around $650.00 to fix it. I won't turn this one in.
I hit a small eagle one time while flying at about 120mph. The wing took on a different shape, cost about $23,000 to fix (cheap actually, compared to most other fancy airplanes).
A friend was driving his Porsche at some unmentioned speed when a truck in front of him kicked up a form stake (a 1/2" steel rod about 30" long). It went through the tire, through the rim (yes through), took out the entire exhaust system, made a turn upwards and took out the A/C. The impact created such high preasure inside the car that the rear window was blown to bits. Fortunately the car was controllable and no one was hurt.
Go home, close the doors, turn out the lights and go to bed -- the world is seriously dangerous.
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Sorry to hear about your bike but the important thing here is that you are ok.
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Damn! I guess the luck of the Irish kept you from going down!
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Damn! I guess the luck of the Irish kept you from going down!
+1 on the luck of the Irish ( knock on wood)
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Don't know if your fixin' yourself but, OSR just posted up a" mint condition" silver front wheel over at the ZX14 forum @ Bikeland. $125.00.
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If you're getting new wheels anyways you might as well powder coat them black before you go to all the work of mounting them...
Just a thought... 8)
http://zggtr.org/index.php?topic=17.msg1523#msg1523 (http://zggtr.org/index.php?topic=17.msg1523#msg1523)
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If you're getting new wheels anyways you might as well powder coat them black before you go to all the work of mounting them...
Just a thought... 8)
http://zggtr.org/index.php?topic=17.msg1523#msg1523 (http://zggtr.org/index.php?topic=17.msg1523#msg1523)
Good thought, I would. :thumbs:
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OK, the grand total of my idiocy was........$2200.00! Add that to the $450.00 it took me to get the damn thing home from the middle of nowhere and that rock cost me $2650.00, OUCH! Better days ahead I'm sure, helps when you ride the best damned bike ever made. Thanks for all of the feedback, you guys are great. As always, Go Irish!!!
Breakdown
$400- new PR2's inc mount/balance
$720- new front rim
$780- new rear rim
labor and tax was the remainder.
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Breakdown
$400- new PR2's inc mount/balance
$720- new front rim
$780- new rear rim
labor and tax was the remainder.
Did you check on having your rims repaired by wheel bender mender? If insurance isn't paying for it, it could be a way to save you some $$$
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OK, the grand total of my idiocy was........$2200.00! Add that to the $450.00 it took me to get the damn thing home from the middle of nowhere and that rock cost me $2650.00, OUCH! Better days ahead I'm sure, helps when you ride the best damned bike ever made. Thanks for all of the feedback, you guys are great. As always, Go Irish!!!
Breakdown
$400- new PR2's inc mount/balance
$720- new front rim
$780- new rear rim
labor and tax was the remainder.
:yikes:
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Yikes!!
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A guy who repairs wheels came by to take a look, the front was an obvious no, the rear was a no after inspection. A real shame but I lived to see another day, and ride my beloved C-14 once more. Next ride, June 3rd...bachelor party in Palm Springs! Go Irish!
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Did you at least take the rock with you as a memento? It could make an interesting discussion piece.
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Did you at least take the rock with you as a memento? It could make an interesting discussion piece.
Yep, keep it to bang on your kipass if ever needed... ;)
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Insurance covering most of this?
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Yep, keep it to bang on your kipass if ever needed... ;)
You beat me to it. Though I might choose a luckier rock for that purpose.
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Just out of curiosity, what were you doing that you didn't see a rock that size at 20mph?
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If you're getting new wheels anyways you might as well powder coat them black ...................Just a thought... 8)
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Yuck. What a thought. :yikes: I hope Kawi doesn't get any ideas.
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We had just ridden thru the hills and the road finally flattened and straightened out. I looked over my left shoulder to appreciate the pure beauty of the Arizona desert and....BAM!!!! Never saw the damned thing, not once. My bad, will make sure I look waaay ahead before I decide to sight see. No powder coating here, she's back and beautiful. Go Irish!
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Yuck. What a thought. :yikes: I hope Kawi doesn't get any ideas.
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/confused1.gif) So you really like the look of the silver wheels over black?? Hmmm... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/bs.gif)
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(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/confused1.gif) So you really like the look of the silver wheels over black?? Hmmm... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/bs.gif)
That keeps yours unique!
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Just out of curiosity, what were you doing that you didn't see a rock that size at 20mph?
He who is without sin...
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just rode it to Palm Springs, has a seriously bad case of high speed wobbles now. Shop is picking it up tomorrow, will find out what's wrong. Their guess is something with the steering head assy/bearings. Go Irish!