Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: timbo on May 03, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
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I'm getting ready to get rid of my stock tires and replace with either the angel st or the pr3. I don't ride in rain and don't have a lot of curves in my area. So which would be the better tire for me. I do want it to stick in what curves I do have and don't like the flat spot in the center like the stock tires have. So which would be the better choice? Has anyone had both and have an opinion on them? Thanks!
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My Angels have a slight flat spot even though I ride twisties at least four or five times a week. My commute has caused the flat spot quicker than the PR3 that was on previously. IMHO it sounds like the PR3 is the way to go for you.
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If you rarely ride in rain and don't go through too many curves, I would also check out the PR2's. The PR3's are quite a bit pricier and really only excel past the PR2's when dealing with rain or water on the roads. I currently have the PR2's myself and absolutely love them. They stick like glue on the many curves of the Malibu Canyons of California and I haven't noticed uneven wear from commuting to work either. No need for me to spend the extra cash for the PR3's seeing as how I don't ride in rain.
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I love Michelin tires. I use them for my cars as well as my bike. If you can get your hands on PR2s or PR3s then do. I just switched over to PR3s because I wanted good rain riding ability, and I haven't been disappointed. Turn in is instantaneous (unlike the Bridgestone's that come OEM).
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If you rarely ride in rain and don't go through too many curves, I would also check out the PR2's. The PR3's are quite a bit pricier and really only excel past the PR2's when dealing with rain or water on the roads. I currently have the PR2's myself and absolutely love them. They stick like glue on the many curves of the Malibu Canyons of California and I haven't noticed uneven wear from commuting to work either. No need for me to spend the extra cash for the PR3's seeing as how I don't ride in rain.
Well look who's branching out to the rest of the forum, congrats Ryan! I'm telling ya bro you're gonna end up buying a Connie if you keep hanging out here! ;D
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Well look who's branching out to the rest of the forum, congrats Ryan! I'm telling ya bro you're gonna end up buying a Connie if you keep hanging out here! ;D
Psshhh, I'm just trying to pad my post count! Hahahaha Seriously, though, Connies are absolutely great bikes. I have about a year and a half worth of payments on my FZ8 so maybe I'll be tired of serious canyon/sport riding by then and be ready to do more touring in which case I'd seriously consider a Connie. Currently I don't do much touring, though. My rides usually top out at about 150 miles; the majority of which being serious twisties. I imagine it'd be exhausting throwing a Concours around that many corners even for a young guy like me.
Sorry I kinda temporarily hijacked your thread, timbo! :-[ Back on track! Pilot Road 2s if you want to save a bit of cash, otherwise go with the Pilot Road 3s.
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Psshhh, I'm just trying to pad my post count! Hahahaha Seriously, though, Connies are absolutely great bikes. I have about a year and a half worth of payments on my FZ8 so maybe I'll be tired of serious canyon/sport riding by then and be ready to do more touring in which case I'd seriously consider a Connie. Currently I don't do much touring, though. My rides usually top out at about 150 miles; the majority of which being serious twisties. I imagine it'd be exhausting throwing a Concours around that many corners even for a young guy like me.
Sorry I kinda temporarily hijacked your thread, timbo! :-[ Back on track! Pilot Road 2s if you want to save a bit of cash, otherwise go with the Pilot Road 3s.
No problem Ryan. Thanks! Probably will try the PR3s.
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PR3 pneumatici non adatti x l'alta velocità già a 140 km h la moto c14 tende a galleggia mento,scarsa direzionalità,per tutto il resto ne sono molto soddisfatto...
prossimo cambio gomme pr2.o Pirelli angel. 8)
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If you need (want) more tread in the center, get the rear in 190/55-17.
Oh .... my vote is for the PR3's
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Liked the PR2 better than the PR3 and they are cheaper. Get the rear 55, Better turn in.
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Is the only difference between the PR2 and the PR3 the rain sipes? So on dry pavement, is there any difference in handing?
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I went with pr3 front and pr2 55 rear. Happy so far with a couple thousand rain or shine miles.
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Is the only difference between the PR2 and the PR3 the rain sipes? So on dry pavement, is there any difference in handing?
http://www.michelinmotorcycle.com/index.cfm?event=pilotroad3trial (http://www.michelinmotorcycle.com/index.cfm?event=pilotroad3trial)
Click on the chart at the lower right of the screen.
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I went to PR3's after stock. Love the better handling and confidence in having a top notch tire. Had a great ride in a driving rainstorm and didn't know it was raining that hard until I stopped...those tires tires held great. The only dissapointment in the PR3's is the flat spot developing because of my slab riding. I thought being a dual compound they would last a little longer. (Maybe it's the Holeshot's fault)
I think the next tire I'll try is the PR2, just to save a couple of bucks. Hopefully it won't be for a while.
Does the 55 give you more rubber in the center?
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Flat spotting will be more noticeable on a 55 profile tire than a 50. The latter is not quite as steep. The 55 does make it easier to tip the bike into a corner.
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3 set of PR3's last year and loved every set except the price... I would go PR3 or better for you with no rain is PR2.
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Sorry I kinda temporarily hijacked your thread, timbo! :-[ Back on track! Pilot Road 2s if you want to save a bit of cash, otherwise go with the Pilot Road 3s.
I think the difference between the PR2 and PR3's at my dealer was about $30 total for the set. I think the PR3's worth the extra coin.
And, as for "If you don't ride in the rain, get the pr2's" thing, well, I never plan on riding in the rain, if there is rain, I take car. BUT- when I travel on C!4, I have no choice and just might encounter rain (drove through rain and light snow last month). So, if you travel on your c14 I still think it worthwhile to get pr3's. Also, the PR3's look like a better tire if you ride when it is freezing or below freezing (that be me again).
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I think the difference between the PR2 and PR3's at my dealer was about $30 total for the set. I think the PR3's worth the extra coin.
And, as for "If you don't ride in the rain, get the pr2's" thing, well, I never plan on riding in the rain, if there is rain, I take car. BUT- when I travel on C!4, I have no choice and just might encounter rain (drove through rain and light snow last month). So, if you travel on your c14 I still think it worthwhile to get pr3's. Also, the PR3's look like a better tire if you ride when it is freezing or below freezing (that be me again).
Ahhh, yea, if the price is that close you may just want to get the PR3's. I believe at my dealership it was closer to a $50-$60 difference for the set which is approaching 20% of the total cost which is some decent coin to save for me at least. Then again, I think this was when the PR3's had just come out so the price may have been higher than it is now for 'em. Either way, they're both awesome tires.
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I have not had the PR's, but after the stockers I went with the Pirelli Angels and will buy them again when the time comes.
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Does the 55 give you more rubber in the center?
From what I've read, yes.
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My rear Angel was showing cords after two days of rippin' around in Arkansas this weekend. I had to buy another Angel since the only other tire that fit was a Shinko (I was just grateful that I was able find a tire and get to continue riding). I didn't write down the exact mileage when I put that set of Angels on but I know the rear was done before 3,000 miles. My next set will definitely be a PR2 or PR3 since the slightly better handling isn't worth the severely decreased mileage. The least amount of miles I have gotten from a PR2 is 5,000.
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I put Angel ST's on my 2008 when the oem tires wore out. I loved their adhesion in wet or dry. unfortunately a hit and run cager took out that bike. 8 months ago.
so far 8000 miles on the 2012 oem tires with lots of tread left. I would buy another set of Angel's and have already priced them out at local dealers installed for when the stock tires finally get too low.
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PR 3's <---because second best tires just won't do on my bikes (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/iconhammer.gif)
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The PR2s handle just fine in the rain. Before PR3s, everyone raved about the PR2s being great in the rain. Do the 3s handle the rain better? Maybe. You're going to burn up the next set of tires anyway, so why not get either the 2s or 3s then try the other one and see which you like better. you can't go wrong with either.
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I found another thing to like about PR3s, they hold air! In two months I haven't added air and i'm down 2 PSI. Better than any tire I've used before.
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I found another thing to like about PR3s, they hold air! In two months I haven't added air and i'm down 2 PSI. Better than any tire I've used before.
I'm finding the same thing. I asked my tire guy on the second set if he was doing anything different such as shooting nitrogen in them, cleaning the rim walls better or just anything because I've never had motorcycle tires hold air consistent like these. The very slight difference in mine I attribute to climate/temp change.
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My Angel's seem to be wearing very well, and they handle great. I am going to give the PR2's a try next, the 3's just don't appear to be worth the extra coin IMHO.
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I got stuck in a sudden downpour just yesterday, and my new PR3s handled perfectly. water excavation was great, and wet grip was amazing.
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Running PR3 on the front and PR2's on the back. A little noiser/more vibration in the front end over the straight PR2 combination but road feel in the rain is definitely better.
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Loving the PR3s. I have 15,500 on my front tire and will probably get another 2,000 on it. The rear tires have gotten replaced due to road hazards.
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I put on ST Angels after the OEM tires, Loved them-great in the rain and great grip on the road. Only problem I went through a couple of pairs of Angels real fast. Approx 4000-4500 miles. I put on a set og PR2 , love them , I will try the PR3 next.