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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: katata1100 on May 01, 2012, 09:19:21 AM

Title: Has anyone gotten their ecu reflashed by mailorder?
Post by: katata1100 on May 01, 2012, 09:19:21 AM
I have a '11 C14 and want to add a 4-1 and want to get a reflash on the ecu but prefer not having to drive 400 miles for it.
Anyone get one done and if so, how were the results, the cost and the tuner?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Has anyone gotten their ecu reflashed by mailorder?
Post by: Texas Concours14 on May 01, 2012, 11:09:52 AM
I suspect that most reflashes have been by mail. I mailed my ECU to Guhl (last year) and got it back within a week.
Title: Re: Has anyone gotten their ecu reflashed by mailorder?
Post by: katata1100 on May 01, 2012, 11:15:59 AM
How much was it? What mods do you have? Was it worth it?
Title: Re: Has anyone gotten their ecu reflashed by mailorder?
Post by: Texas Concours14 on May 01, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
$375 from Guhl.  My 2010 has an Area P slip-on; Fred Harmon worked with Guhl to optimize the maps for a CS One slip-on, so I requested the "slip-on" map.  I don't know if they have a map for 4 into 1 pipes.  I also asked for the 155 mph speed limiter to be removed (don't plan to ever exceed 155, but at least my bike resembles the ungoverned 2008 and 2009 bikes).  As to performance, there are threads and some dyno charts posted here and on the other forum (search for "Guhl" and "ECU reflash").  The reflash was worth the investment. The dyno charts for Guhl reflash show about 15% increase in HP and torque below 5k RPM; above 5k there is not much change.  I definitely notice the increased low end grunt.

The one additional thing I would ask for now pertains to the ECO mode. It is my understanding that ECO mode turns off at 80+ mph.  I don't know if Guhl has worked out a way to override this "feature", but on the highway it would be nice to travel in the 75-85 mph zone without ECO being engaged/disengaged with speed fluctuations (although I have to admit that I don't feel the bike transitioning between modes).
Title: Re: Has anyone gotten their ecu reflashed by mailorder?
Post by: stewart on May 01, 2012, 06:15:35 PM
Yep highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Has anyone gotten their ecu reflashed by mailorder?
Post by: Necron99 on May 02, 2012, 07:28:33 AM
I don't think the eco mode goes off at a certain MPH, but at a certain RPM.  Am I mistaken?
Title: Re: Has anyone gotten their ecu reflashed by mailorder?
Post by: The Pope on May 02, 2012, 09:17:27 AM
I don't think the eco mode goes off at a certain MPH, but at a certain RPM.  Am I mistaken?

On my 2011 the ECO mode is only effected by the RPM, as I've had it (on a closed course  ::) ) well above 80 and it was still in ECO mode.