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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Huero on April 18, 2012, 01:18:35 PM

Title: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: Huero on April 18, 2012, 01:18:35 PM
Anyone know if the givi Z228 lock set can be used to rekey the saddlebags. Twistedthrottles site lists the locks as a direct replacement. My concours had no locks in the bags at when i got it.

Thanks,
Huero
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/910/602/ (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/910/602/)
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: Flathead on April 18, 2012, 04:38:30 PM
They are different diameters, the GIVI cylinders are smaller. :(
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: Huero on April 18, 2012, 05:59:42 PM
It appears to me that they may be shorter as well. Although, i havent seen the oen cylinder ir barrel.
But, it just doesnt seem long enough. I contacted twisted throttle again this afternoon. They said, "it shoukd work fine.". So, either tgey are just wrong or i am slippin'.

Anyone have a picture if the lock cylinder?

Thanks,
Huero
thanks flathead
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: Flathead on April 18, 2012, 06:12:55 PM
I'm on the way out the door but I will shoot a couple pics and provide measurements tomorrow. I'm actually trying to go the other way and use a kawi cylinder in the givi so I can reduce the number of keys and spares I need.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: Huero on April 18, 2012, 08:14:25 PM
Awesome
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: Huero on April 19, 2012, 11:39:48 PM
Best info i have ever seen. Posted by flathead, what a cool cat.

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,33956.0.html (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php/topic,33956.0.html)
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: brant bandit on March 16, 2015, 11:42:22 AM
Hi,

Is it possible to match the lock in the Givi case to the same key as the bike? That would be really nice.....

Thanks.
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: maxtog on March 16, 2015, 04:05:10 PM
Is it possible to match the lock in the Givi case to the same key as the bike? That would be really nice.....

Looks like that is not possible
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: brant bandit on March 16, 2015, 05:19:46 PM
So the new 2015 C14 accessories include a monokey V47 box with a key that is matched to the bike.

http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940528 (http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940528)

Question - could that lock be put into an E55? Both are monokey....

The part numbers are different between the V47 and E55 according to Givi.ca but it might be because of other junk included in the lock set. I don't know locks.....
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: maxtog on March 16, 2015, 05:49:43 PM
So the new 2015 C14 accessories include a monokey V47 box with a key that is matched to the bike.

Now THAT would be a nice thing to have.

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Question - could that lock be put into an E55? Both are monokey....

THAT is a good question :)
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: brant bandit on March 17, 2015, 05:55:35 PM
My dealer is ordering the key set for me. I also ordered my E55 through them so they'll install it for me. They think it will work but aren't 100% certain. No risk to me, and I'm really excited about having a single key! (if it works)
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: mikeeitup on March 17, 2015, 07:12:41 PM
So the new 2015 47L case looks pretty awesome. Anybody have reason to doubt if it will fit on a 2012?
Mike
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: brant bandit on March 17, 2015, 07:27:06 PM
Its a standard monokey box and will fit any monokey rack....including phil's rack. Plus....check out the one key system. you can get it keyed to your bike.
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: mikeeitup on March 17, 2015, 08:45:26 PM
Its a standard monokey box and will fit any monokey rack....including phil's rack. Plus....check out the one key system. you can get it keyed to your bike.
That's why I'm interested. I love the one key idear. Was just reading another post about this idea and stumbled on the 2015 truck... I love how it looks and the one key thing sells it for me... Gonna get it methinks!
Mike
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: maxtog on March 17, 2015, 11:44:48 PM
http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940528 (http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940528)

The main problem is that it is green- color matched to the 2015.
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: mikeeitup on March 18, 2015, 06:45:16 PM
http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940528 (http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940528)

The main problem is that it is green- color matched to the 2015.
They do sell that black replacement part for the case in case you don't want the green. Always a plus!

Mike
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: zarticus on March 18, 2015, 07:00:28 PM
Will the one key system retrofit to the 2008-2014 47l trunk ?. If the 2 trunks use the same lock assembly it should be doable !.
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: brant bandit on March 18, 2015, 08:15:46 PM
I don't know if it would fit the old one.....the old one is a monolock case. Not sure if the lock cylinder is different....might not be. I just hope that the new lock works in my E55 case. If so, Kawi is going to sell a lot of these lock kits!
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: 556ALPHA on March 19, 2015, 02:48:14 PM
I don't know if it would fit the old one.....the old one is a monolock case. Not sure if the lock cylinder is different....might not be. I just hope that the new lock works in my E55 case. If so, Kawi is going to sell a lot of these lock kits!

That would definitely be a great option.
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: mikeeitup on March 19, 2015, 08:03:49 PM
Whoa magic happened here! Yeah waiting on some paychecks and them I'll order the SOB.
Mike
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: brant bandit on March 28, 2015, 09:09:33 PM
I should update this.....the dealer said it wouldn't work. I told them to hang on to the new lock until I can see it. I'm wondering if it just needs some convincing of the sort that a dealer would not be willing to do to make it work. I should pick up my bike on Wednesday.....at least that's the plan....and put my eyes on the new lock and compare it to my new e55.

So....dealer said no go. If I think I can make it work I'll start a new thread about it, if not.....it's dead.
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: Scaffolder on March 29, 2015, 07:19:38 AM
They would  have sold so many of these if it worked. What if you were to buy the 2015 trunk? Would they be able to match it with other year bikes. I would like to match it to a 2012.
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: maxtog on March 29, 2015, 07:47:21 AM
They would  have sold so many of these if it worked.

Agreed.  I am not in the market for a top box, but if I were, I would definitely want a matched key.

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What if you were to buy the 2015 trunk?  Would they be able to match it with other year bikes. I would like to match it to a 2012.

Color match it?  I already asked that but it is kinda complex.  Mikeeitup said they sell a black replacement part for the green part.  What I see only shows the trim part in green ( http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/99994057751P (http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/99994057751P) ).  This link shows the case itself in red, black, silver... http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940481 (http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940481)  And the color panel in silver ( http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940657 (http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940657) ) or black ( http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940656 (http://www.kawasaki.com/Accessories/Item/ZG1400EFFL/999940656) ).  Very confusing. 
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: mikeeitup on March 30, 2015, 06:23:43 PM
In regard to the other half of the thread, I went to the dealership and the guy wasn't helpful BUT I finally got an email from Kawasaki and it pretty much read... NO THE 2015 KQR 47L CASE IS ONLY FOR 2015...... To which my reply is, why the hell did they change the bolt pattern? I don't believe it.
Mike
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: maxtog on March 30, 2015, 09:20:42 PM
In regard to the other half of the thread, I went to the dealership and the guy wasn't helpful BUT I finally got an email from Kawasaki and it pretty much read... NO THE 2015 KQR 47L CASE IS ONLY FOR 2015...... To which my reply is, why the hell did they change the bolt pattern? I don't believe it.

Really, that is crazy.  Plus, I would love for them to explain why that case has color panels available on their site for OTHER than the 2015 green and 2015 black.
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: brant bandit on April 03, 2015, 10:06:07 PM
https://youtu.be/JdI-rZknH-w

Took the wafers from the new One Key system lock for the Kawasaki 47L case and swapped them into my Givi E55.

Bacon.
Title: Re: Matching bike/pannier/top box keys
Post by: maxtog on April 03, 2015, 10:18:35 PM
https://youtu.be/JdI-rZknH-w (https://youtu.be/JdI-rZknH-w)

Took the wafers from the new One Key system lock for the Kawasaki 47L case and swapped them into my Givi E55.

Neat!  That is the way to have it!!

OK, here is your next challenge- get the fab Projekt D helmet locks and have those matching too!  (OK, that is probably not going to happen, but wouldn't THAT be super-duper awesome? ) http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=293.msg18368#msg18368 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=293.msg18368#msg18368)