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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: voileauciel on April 11, 2012, 03:45:36 PM

Title: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: voileauciel on April 11, 2012, 03:45:36 PM
There's a dealer in NNJ, selling a left-over 2009 for 10,999. Think I can talk them down from that, or is that about as good as it gets?
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: booger on April 11, 2012, 04:01:12 PM
My local dealer was selling ,09 holdovers for $9999, last year.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: Excavator on April 11, 2012, 04:02:24 PM
I paid 10,000 for my leftover 09 abs in Dec 2010. I think you have room to talk them down a good bit.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: OregonLAN on April 11, 2012, 04:24:11 PM
I paid less in 2010.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: ZG on April 11, 2012, 04:40:31 PM
ABS or not??
 
I paid $10.6 OTD for my new leftover 09 ABS in October of 2010.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: W14 on April 11, 2012, 04:57:44 PM
Would pass on the deal unless you have to have it and don't care about the price. Remember that you also have to pay taxes, registration fess, shipping, dealer prep, etc. adding another $1500+. My recollection is that I paid somewhere around $9,500 OTD for a left-over 09 in February 2011 - bike had a $2000 manufacturer's rebate.

A quick scan of CycleTrader.com shows prices for 09's ranging between $8,500-$14,299, with an average price of $10,094. The KBB trade-in value on an 09 is $6,580 - there are members on this site who have said they were offered less. Why pay $12K-$13k for a 4yr old bike that the market values at about $6,000 once you sign the dotted line?

I would look for a used bike that is already farkled-out
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: feelergaugephil on April 11, 2012, 05:56:14 PM
Would pass on the deal unless you have to have it and don't care about the price. Remember that you also have to pay taxes, registration fess, shipping, dealer prep, etc. adding another $1500+. My recollection is that I paid somewhere around $9,500 OTD for a left-over 09 in February 2011 - bike had a $2000 manufacturer's rebate.

A quick scan of CycleTrader.com shows prices for 09's ranging between $8,500-$14,299, with an average price of $10,094. The KBB trade-in value on an 09 is $6,580 - there are members on this site who have said they were offered less. Why pay $12K-$13k for a 4yr old bike that the market values at about $6,000 once you sign the dotted line?

I would look for a used bike that is already farkled-out

Well and truly stated sir. A+
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: IRULE on April 11, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Yup, I paid $10,499 + tax back in 2010 for 2009.  So, the answer to your question is "NO"!
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: IRULE on April 11, 2012, 06:45:27 PM
Wait, does it with ABS? 
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: wipfel on April 11, 2012, 07:18:46 PM
I would say that's too high.  You probably can get a 2010 for not much more than that.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on April 11, 2012, 07:26:02 PM
If it has ABS offer them somewhere between $9,000-$9,500.  If they don't cave then they must want to keep it in the showroom as a conversation piece for another three years. 
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: basmntdweller on April 11, 2012, 07:39:10 PM
Got mine end of July last year in NJ for $9500. I forget the dealerships name but it was just east of Philly about 20 miles. They sell a lot via Ebay. That is where I found mine.

Matt
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: ZG on April 11, 2012, 07:47:53 PM
I would say that's too high.  You probably can get a 2010 for not much more than that.

Why pay for more for a 10+?  ???
 
I personally (maybe I'm alone) think the lines of the 08/09 bodywork is far better looking than the 10+, the front fairing on the 10+ to fix the heat problem (which IMO doesn't exist, at least here in the PNW ;) ) is kinda ugly and doesn't follow the lines of the tail, looks odd to me... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/vomit.gif)
 
I mean, come on, look at the 08/09 lines, don't try to tell me these don't flow better...  8)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00866-20120303-1332.jpg)

 
Plus the 10+ has linked brakes, which again IMO aren't the greatest to have...  :-\
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: scooter on April 11, 2012, 08:10:23 PM
i dont see it. yeah you have a very nice looking concours,but the 10+ looks just as good to me.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: IRULE on April 11, 2012, 08:12:14 PM
You can probably get one for cheap...I heard they were giving the non-black c14 away for cheap!  No discount for black concours.  They are better built and has extra hp!  Seriously!   :o
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: Kawi Ken on April 11, 2012, 08:13:26 PM
I just purchased an  BLK.09 leftover O miles that i pick up this wk. end for 10,700.
The retail guide value is at 9980. which is the most a Bank will finance if they will consider it new.Most will not due to the yr.. I thought it to be a fair deal to purchase a brand new C 14 W/3 Yr. warranty and i was able to extend it to a total of 6 at an addl.cost.No dealer prep chgs. and sales tax goes on any bike here. I checked the cycletrader and didn't find any C 14 brand new at this cost or close.  So maybe not the greatest deal but at least i'll be the guy breaking my own bike in. The used ones in this area were priced close to this also. If it was Sept. i'd been doing some more hagglin,but right now the demand is up.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: BlkBird on April 11, 2012, 08:35:13 PM
Got mine end of July last year in NJ for $9500. I forget the dealerships name but it was just east of Philly about 20 miles. They sell a lot via Ebay. That is where I found mine.

Matt

Probably Cycle World in Cherry Hill.  Steve WFL got his '10 there a couple trouble free years back. 
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: Elfmaze on April 11, 2012, 09:28:06 PM
Got mine end of July last year in NJ for $9500. I forget the dealerships name but it was just east of Philly about 20 miles. They sell a lot via Ebay. That is where I found mine.

Matt

edit :  Scratch that... 
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: Tahoe C14 on April 11, 2012, 10:48:50 PM
Just thought i'd chime in here....

I bought my 09 ABS from a guy right here on this forum a year ago.
Bike had 320 miles on it, extended 3 yr. warranty and about 1K worth
of farkles already on it. My price 8K......so keep looking if this dealer
won't budge. Took me about 8 months lurking and looking but it paid
off, i believe i got a really good deal.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: basmntdweller on April 12, 2012, 03:25:14 AM
Probably Cycle World in Cherry Hill.  Steve WFL got his '10 there a couple trouble free years back.

Yup, Cherry hill. I kept thinking orange something. I knew it was some kind of fruit ;D

Matt
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: Conrad on April 12, 2012, 05:05:12 AM

Why pay for more for a 10+?  ???
 
I personally (maybe I'm alone) think the lines of the 08/09 bodywork is far better looking than the 10+, the front fairing on the 10+ to fix the heat problem (which IMO doesn't exist, at least here in the PNW ;) ) is kinda ugly and doesn't follow the lines of the tail, looks odd to me... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/vomit.gif)
 
I mean, come on, look at the 08/09 lines, don't try to tell me these don't flow better...  8)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00866-20120303-1332.jpg)

 
Plus the 10+ has linked brakes, which again IMO aren't the greatest to have...  :-\

+1
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: wipfel on April 12, 2012, 05:57:22 AM

Why pay for more for a 10+?  ???
 
I personally (maybe I'm alone) think the lines of the 08/09 bodywork is far better looking than the 10+, the front fairing on the 10+ to fix the heat problem (which IMO doesn't exist, at least here in the PNW ;) ) is kinda ugly and doesn't follow the lines of the tail, looks odd to me... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/vomit.gif)
 
I mean, come on, look at the 08/09 lines, don't try to tell me these don't flow better...  8)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00866-20120303-1332.jpg)

Plus the 10+ has linked brakes, which again IMO aren't the greatest to have...  :-\

i like the fairings on the 08-09, too, but i don't think the ones on the 10+ look any worse.  as far as the heat issue, i guess it depends on the rider and the location, but it's a common enough issue that Kawi redesigned the bike.  standard heated grips and i believe additional features in the multi-function display as well (someone correct me on that if i'm wrong) are also new on the 10+'s.

the linked brakes seem to be a preference thing.  i would probably prefer the ability to un-link them, but i haven't noticed any negatives of having them, yet.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: Beamer on April 12, 2012, 06:22:35 AM
I bought mine new last fall for 10,400 out the door new with a 3 year warranty (Black w/ ABS)
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: galaxieman on April 12, 2012, 07:01:31 AM
Bought my '09 in Nov '10 for $11,250 OTD (comparable to the sub-$11k prices from other states given the AZ Vehicle tax), so $10,999 is too high.  Like a previous poster has said, look used.  At this point an '09 is a boat-anchor on the showroom floor, considering you're going to lose any money over $6k that you pay for the bike.  There is some benefit from it being new, i.e. you know exactly what's been done to it, but unless they're talking less than $9k OTD or the 'new bike smell' is worth more than a couple grand to you, pass on this one.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: valkmc on April 12, 2012, 08:10:06 AM
Bought my 09 new Dec 2010 for $9999 in Florida. Would think they should be less now if you can find one.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: CRocker on April 12, 2012, 12:33:30 PM
Is it a good deal?  That depends...

http://cosprings.craigslist.org/mcd/2943894572.html (http://cosprings.craigslist.org/mcd/2943894572.html)
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: MrPepsi on April 12, 2012, 03:37:02 PM

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00866-20120303-1332.jpg)

Strange, another picture of ZG's bike, it is so rare to see pics of this thing.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: Conrad on April 12, 2012, 03:39:20 PM
Strange, another picture of ZG's bike, it is so rare to see pics of this thing.

That's his bike? Dang, it looks so, slow.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: ZG on April 12, 2012, 03:47:54 PM
Strange, another picture of ZG's bike, it is so rare to see pics of this thing.

 ;)
 
That's his bike? Dang, it looks so, slow.

 :battle:
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: Flathead on April 12, 2012, 04:09:13 PM
Strange, another picture of ZG's bike, it is so rare to see pics of this thing.

That's 'cause it's always posing for pics!
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: nxtdoor on April 12, 2012, 07:00:27 PM
I bought my 09 with 1 mile on it last April for $9800 out the door in Kansas.

jeff
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: voileauciel on April 13, 2012, 08:00:07 AM
I think I'll just save up some more, and buy a leftover 2012. I really like the Candy Arabian red, and it will match my gear better than the magenta from 2009.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: mikeboileau on April 13, 2012, 10:55:10 AM
I like the fairing on the 08/09 better too.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: MrPepsi on April 13, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
And the speed limiter, or lack there of. ;D
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: m919 on April 14, 2012, 07:27:19 AM
I bought mine two years ago non- abs for $10,500 OTD.
Title: Re: Is this a good deal on a left-over '09?
Post by: rush2112 on April 14, 2012, 11:29:25 AM
Bought my 09 (non-ABS) in March of 2010, and paid $10,700 out the door.