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Title: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: martin_14 on March 23, 2012, 03:55:42 AM
I've had my Shoei XR-1000 for 4 years now and I think that it is, in terms of fit, just perfect. I don't have any spots on my coconut that hurt after long rides, nor sweat, nor any other complain, really. I always tour with earplugs or Panasonic RP-HC55 noise cancelling earphones, so noise is not an issue.
My only 2 wishes regarding helmets are: I'd like a visor built in, and I want a flip helmet. The Multitec doesn't have a visor, and in my opinion is fugly. The Neotec is expensive, but I like it and it seems to tick all the boxes. Can somebody give me a reason not to buy it?  ???
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: tonedeaf on March 23, 2012, 05:22:01 AM
The only reason I can think of is that it will not have Snell certification. This is important to me -- although it may not be as important now as it was 30 years ago when there were some truly worthless helmets on the market.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: stevewfl on March 23, 2012, 07:01:10 AM
The only reason I can think of is that it will not have Snell certification. This is important to me -- although it may not be as important now as it was 30 years ago when there were some truly worthless helmets on the market.

Every resource on this helmet I can fin says that it is Snell approved.  They all may be wrong though.

This is just one of a trillion google is returning back, note the bottom spec:  http://www.jcmotors.com/p-30912-shoei-neotec-modular-helmet.aspx (http://www.jcmotors.com/p-30912-shoei-neotec-modular-helmet.aspx)


Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: philipintexas on March 23, 2012, 07:32:58 AM
I can't think of a reason not to buy it, however there are other choices that are modular and have a built-in visor. I've used Nolan for years as well as HJC. Both offer the two requirements.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: jqram35 on March 23, 2012, 08:23:38 AM
Every HJC I have ever worn has felt like a cheap piece of junk and sounded like it too. I have a Nolan and a Multitec. Nolan I cannot wear cause my head ain't round. Love the Multitec but it is about time for new. Been eyeballing the Neotec. I thought I read somewhere that Snell would never approve a modular....
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Kazairl on March 23, 2012, 08:25:17 AM
From The reviews I have read, The HJC Sy-Max III is a huge improvement over the earlier models in all aspects. Probably not quite as nice as the Neotec since it is cheaper but still might be worth looking into.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Pokey on March 23, 2012, 10:36:32 AM
Not the whole SNELL thing again.......... ::)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 23, 2012, 10:54:29 AM
To answer the OPs Q, because your old helmet really does stink :'(
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: RBX QB on March 23, 2012, 11:01:26 AM
Yeah, that Neotec would be much more enticing if the price weren't where it is.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/shoei/neotec/ (http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/shoei/neotec/)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Stretch on March 23, 2012, 11:43:56 AM
You only go around once, and besides, it's not like you will be replacing the Neotec next year.  I
ve had mine for only 300 miles and love the fit.  It was time to replace the X11 and I wasn't to keen on spending that kind on money.  But in the long run, I'm glad I sprung for the Neotec. 

Don't waste time debating about it, just buy it and enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: tonedeaf on March 23, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
Every resource on this helmet I can fin says that it is Snell approved.  They all may be wrong though.

This is just one of a trillion google is returning back, note the bottom spec:  http://www.jcmotors.com/p-30912-shoei-neotec-modular-helmet.aspx (http://www.jcmotors.com/p-30912-shoei-neotec-modular-helmet.aspx)

The only place I looked was the Shoei website. None of their modulars mention Snell. All of their non-modulars specifically mention Snell. Check the website (click on Tech Specs for all the helmets): http://www.shoei-helmets.com/Helmet.aspx?X-Twelve&h=19&t=1 (http://www.shoei-helmets.com/Helmet.aspx?X-Twelve&h=19&t=1)

"Not the Snell thing again..."
For those who have not been around long enough to know the issues with early helmets; Snell was a big deal.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: martin_14 on March 24, 2012, 03:58:44 PM
I can't think of a reason not to buy it, however there are other choices that are modular and have a built-in visor. I've used Nolan for years as well as HJC. Both offer the two requirements.

Hi Phil,
I tried the Nolan yesterday, a couple of different models actually, and just like when I bought my XR-1000, my head didn't like them. Quality stuff, just not the right shape for me. Shoeis fit like they were made for me. HJC is another story. They seem to make either rubbish or good stuff, but the Shoei is still better than any HJC, in my opinion.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Excavator on March 30, 2012, 11:41:47 AM
Has anyone tried the Shoei Qwest Passage?  Pros/cons?  Worth the cost of 469.00?

Thinking of replacing my HJC with this.

Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Boomer on April 10, 2012, 09:52:10 AM
I bought one of these.
Can be used with the chinpiece locked up (actually back) AND the clear visor and/or sunvisor down.
Tested by me at freeway speeds, windscreen down and up.
http://www.shark-helmets.com/product.php?modele=EVOLINE+SERIE+2+MOOVIT+Mat+-ST+Black+Orange+Black&sous_gamme=EVOLINE&gamme=The+SHARK+Urban+range&reference_modele=HE9174EKOK&langue=UNITED+KINGDOM+UNITED+KINGDOM+-+English (http://www.shark-helmets.com/product.php?modele=EVOLINE+SERIE+2+MOOVIT+Mat+-ST+Black+Orange+Black&sous_gamme=EVOLINE&gamme=The+SHARK+Urban+range&reference_modele=HE9174EKOK&langue=UNITED+KINGDOM+UNITED+KINGDOM+-+English)
(http://www.shark-helmets.com/images/products/modeles/HE9174EKOK/full/HE9174EKOK-1.jpg)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Rhino on April 10, 2012, 10:57:34 AM
Every resource on this helmet I can fin says that it is Snell approved.  They all may be wrong though.

This is just one of a trillion google is returning back, note the bottom spec:  http://www.jcmotors.com/p-30912-shoei-neotec-modular-helmet.aspx (http://www.jcmotors.com/p-30912-shoei-neotec-modular-helmet.aspx)

I have been told that SNELL never approves a flip helmet.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: GVmerle on April 10, 2012, 07:54:01 PM
Has anyone tried the Shoei Qwest Passage?  Pros/cons?  Worth the cost of 469.00?

Thinking of replacing my HJC with this.

Just ordered a new Qwest 2 days ago.  I am awaiting delivery and looking forward to it.  I have always liked Shoei helmets.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: wally_games on April 10, 2012, 08:20:56 PM
The Qwest doesn't fit the same as the RF-1100, which fits me perfectly. If I had a rounder head, the Overt Qwest would be my next helmet. The pictures don't do the paint scheme justice. You need to see one in person.

I have also been eyeballing the Neotec, but haven't found one to try on yet.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: jqram35 on April 10, 2012, 09:39:22 PM
Wish the Neotec came in HiViz
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: BruceR on April 10, 2012, 10:09:32 PM
I have been told that SNELL never approves a flip helmet.

I think it's just that no manufacturer has supplied a modular for SNELL testing.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 15, 2012, 12:22:10 AM
After spending the day today with Chet (ie SoP and a fellow chewer  :) ) I am now seeing the benifits of a modular helmet, I did some searches and now have this Shoei Neotec on my radar...
 
Keep going, pros and cons please...
 
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: 
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: marku8a on April 15, 2012, 05:11:14 PM

Keep going, pros and cons please...
 

I am also interested in the Neotec. My last few helmets have been Arais. They very light and provide a very snug fit when new. They kind of break in over time. I tried on a couple of Neotecs this weekend. It's definitely a different fit. It's like the large is a little too big and the medium is too small. I haven't owned a Shoe before. I have to admit I do like the features on the Neotec. The built in sun visor got my attention. They also have removable foam inserts at the ears to place your intercom speakers.

I am on the fence at the moment.

Mark
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: gPink on April 15, 2012, 05:22:21 PM
After spending the day today with Chet (ie SoP and a fellow chewer  :) ) I am now seeing the benifits of a modular helmet, I did some searches and now have this Shoei Neotec on my radar...
 
Keep going, pros and cons please...
 
 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Getting tired of swallowing in that full face?
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 15, 2012, 05:35:06 PM
Getting tired of swallowing in that full face?

Nope, that's not the problem. But spitting a chew out will riding is never easy with a closed face...  :(
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Excavator on April 15, 2012, 06:53:51 PM

Nope, that's not the problem. But spitting a chew out will riding is never easy with a closed face...  :(

I went with the Multitec, just really can't get away from the modulars but it has nothing to do with the smokeless product I use.

I'm quite pleased with it so far.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Son of Pappy on April 15, 2012, 06:55:02 PM
Copenhagen Pouches are da bomb for riders.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 15, 2012, 07:38:06 PM
Copenhagen Pouches are da bomb for riders.

Ya, I'm gonna give those a try when riding, thanks for the tip bro.  :)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: sherob on April 16, 2012, 04:45:29 PM
I'll be pulling the trigger on a white Neotec in a week or so... got a group buy going on another forum, a bit over $500 shipped.  8)


Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: connie14boy on April 16, 2012, 05:02:52 PM
Just bought a Scorpion 900 modular and lovin' it- paid 229. w/tax in Pasadena. I will use it open face in warm weather and when it gets colder, I will snap the full face back on. It has a flip down tinted visor- but all open faces need ear plugs too.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: 46Alpha on April 17, 2012, 05:55:56 AM
I know I'm new here (just got the Connie a few weeks ago) but I picked up a new Neotec a few days ago. Put about 400 miles with it on Sat and Sunday. Some thoughts:

-I'm a long time Arai user (Quantum-2, RX-7 and currently an RX-Q) I wear a Lg and got a Lg in the Shoei. The Arai is a much more snug fit. The Shoei is much more comfortable, but it almost feels like it's too big. That could just be that I'm so used to the Arai. The liner is plush and well made.

-The Neo comes with a removable chin skirt. It gets in the way with it on, but the helmet is louder with it off. I miss the retractable one on the Arai.

-The retractable sun screen on the Neo is top notch. My buddy rides a Nolan, the Neo has far better coverage and less distortion. The slider is a bit small and takes some getting used to. No big deal though. So nice not to have to carry a spare face shield in case I'm out at night when the dark smoke becomes a problem.

-The front lifts super easy and has a detent at the top so it won't flip down on you. When you slide it up/down, it's VERY smooth with no noise. When it locks up, it's rock solid. Use the included lube when/if you get it and it'll be like silk.

-It has three vents. The chin vent doesn't open wide enough for my liking and the rear exhaust vent has a very small tab that's a pain to hit with gloves on. The top vent is great though. It's a nice change from the Arai (Two top vents, one exhaust vent, two shield vents and a chin vent) but the Arai moved a lot more air.

-There is now way around it, it's loud. And I'm coming from a helmet that is known as loud. The Neotec is far louder than the Arai. I always ride with ear buds in, and I found it somewhat distracting at speed with the windscreen down at it's lowest point. It's too bad really, the Arai moved more air and had less noise.

-The face shield is a PITA. It has VERY strong detents. I'm hoping they will break in a bit. Shield swaps is easy enough. Many will complain about the Arai shield swap system, I've been using it for years and have grown used to it. I can swap an Arai shield in seconds. The Neotec is simple enough.

-I do LOVE the field of view in the Neo. Far wider side to side than the Arai, makes head checks much easier.

Lastly, this is the first modular I've owned. The option of being able to flip up the face at red lights is hands down the best. It was 90 here in NH yesterday and I rode into the city. Being able to cool off while at stops or stuck in traffic is wonderful. I think  I would have a hard time going back to a full face. The price is steep, and only you can say if it's worth it. Overall a nice helmet. I'm happy with it, but dropping the $600 on it hurt (had to hold off on the new slip on for a bit :(
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: sherob on April 17, 2012, 11:55:42 AM
Just bought a Scorpion 900 modular and lovin' it- paid 229. w/tax in Pasadena. I will use it open face in warm weather and when it gets colder, I will snap the full face back on. It has a flip down tinted visor- but all open faces need ear plugs too.

That is my current lid, getting a bit long in tooth...
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 17, 2012, 12:02:42 PM
I know I'm new here (just got the Connie a few weeks ago) but I picked up a new Neotec a few days ago. Put about 400 miles with it on Sat and Sunday. Some thoughts:

-I'm a long time Arai user (Quantum-2, RX-7 and currently an RX-Q) I wear a Lg and got a Lg in the Shoei. The Arai is a much more snug fit. The Shoei is much more comfortable, but it almost feels like it's too big. That could just be that I'm so used to the Arai. The liner is plush and well made.

-The Neo comes with a removable chin skirt. It gets in the way with it on, but the helmet is louder with it off. I miss the retractable one on the Arai.

-The retractable sun screen on the Neo is top notch. My buddy rides a Nolan, the Neo has far better coverage and less distortion. The slider is a bit small and takes some getting used to. No big deal though. So nice not to have to carry a spare face shield in case I'm out at night when the dark smoke becomes a problem.

-The front lifts super easy and has a detent at the top so it won't flip down on you. When you slide it up/down, it's VERY smooth with no noise. When it locks up, it's rock solid. Use the included lube when/if you get it and it'll be like silk.

-It has three vents. The chin vent doesn't open wide enough for my liking and the rear exhaust vent has a very small tab that's a pain to hit with gloves on. The top vent is great though. It's a nice change from the Arai (Two top vents, one exhaust vent, two shield vents and a chin vent) but the Arai moved a lot more air.

-There is now way around it, it's loud. And I'm coming from a helmet that is known as loud. The Neotec is far louder than the Arai. I always ride with ear buds in, and I found it somewhat distracting at speed with the windscreen down at it's lowest point. It's too bad really, the Arai moved more air and had less noise.

-The face shield is a PITA. It has VERY strong detents. I'm hoping they will break in a bit. Shield swaps is easy enough. Many will complain about the Arai shield swap system, I've been using it for years and have grown used to it. I can swap an Arai shield in seconds. The Neotec is simple enough.

-I do LOVE the field of view in the Neo. Far wider side to side than the Arai, makes head checks much easier.

Lastly, this is the first modular I've owned. The option of being able to flip up the face at red lights is hands down the best. It was 90 here in NH yesterday and I rode into the city. Being able to cool off while at stops or stuck in traffic is wonderful. I think  I would have a hard time going back to a full face. The price is steep, and only you can say if it's worth it. Overall a nice helmet. I'm happy with it, but dropping the $600 on it hurt (had to hold off on the new slip on for a bit :(

Thanks for the feedback 46! I'm also a long time Arai owner/user and love my Corsair V but am intreeged to try this Shoei Neotec. If Arai made a comperable modular helmet I would most likely try it but they don't, seems they're missing a market on this...
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 17, 2012, 12:03:43 PM
I'll be pulling the trigger on a white Neotec in a week or so... got a group buy going on another forum, a bit over $500 shipped.  8)

How long is the group buy going on Rob? Do you need to be a member of that forum to take part in it?
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: sherob on April 17, 2012, 12:29:44 PM

How long is the group buy going on Rob? Do you need to be a member of that forum to take part in it?

The info you need...  ;)

Okay guys here we go, Just found out shoei has set a price but i think this is a very fair price at 515.00 no tax and free delivery...When you call please inform Jeff that you are from the st owners forum and the code for this group by is 123ST.. We have a total of 20 guys and i could not get the price down any further due to shoei,s vendor policy with pricing ..if your still in please call Jeff at 877 837 0047.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: 46Alpha on April 17, 2012, 02:33:21 PM
The info you need...  ;)

Okay guys here we go, Just found out shoei has set a price but i think this is a very fair price at 515.00 no tax and free delivery...When you call please inform Jeff that you are from the st owners forum and the code for this group by is 123ST.. We have a total of 20 guys and i could not get the price down any further due to shoei,s vendor policy with pricing ..if your still in please call Jeff at 877 837 0047.

That's one heck of a deal. Too bad I missed it. But I didn't do too bad. I had some Zillacash on my account (-$25) and got another $25 back on the purchase of the lid. Helped pay for my Sena SMH-10.

ZG, if you have the chance, try before you buy. The Shoei fits well, but it's a slightly different shape than the Arai. I don't know if you'll ever see Arai break into the modular helmet market, but it may be coming. With Snell finally certifying a modular, Arai may try out the market. Who know's? But can you imagine the price for a well built Arai modular?!? :o


Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 17, 2012, 03:02:11 PM
The info you need...  ;)

Okay guys here we go, Just found out shoei has set a price but i think this is a very fair price at 515.00 no tax and free delivery...When you call please inform Jeff that you are from the st owners forum and the code for this group by is 123ST.. We have a total of 20 guys and i could not get the price down any further due to shoei,s vendor policy with pricing ..if your still in please call Jeff at 877 837 0047.

Thanks bro, do you know how long the group buy is going for?
 
ZG, if you have the chance, try before you buy. The Shoei fits well, but it's a slightly different shape than the Arai. I don't know if you'll ever see Arai break into the modular helmet market, but it may be coming. With Snell finally certifying a modular, Arai may try out the market. Who know's? But can you imagine the price for a well built Arai modular?!? :o

Yep, I'll definately find one to try on first, as well give my local dealer a chance to price match.
 
Yep, Arai's aren't cheap, but I'm ok with that for a good lid...  :)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: sherob on April 17, 2012, 03:07:13 PM
I think it's going on for a week... till the end of next week.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: martin_14 on April 18, 2012, 09:13:25 AM
Hey ZG,
what color are you going to buy?  ;D
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 18, 2012, 10:56:14 AM
Hey ZG,
what color are you going to buy?  ;D

Not sure yet...  ;) :rotflmao:
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Son of Pappy on April 18, 2012, 12:09:00 PM
Hey ZG,
what color are you going to buy?  ;D
Silverdammit ;D
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 18, 2012, 12:30:24 PM
Silverdammit ;D

 :o      :doublepuke:
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: Rhino on April 18, 2012, 01:51:51 PM
That does look like a nice helmet. It comes pinlock equipped and a sun visor. I may have to save some penny's and get me one. I did notice that Silverdammit is one of the colors but I guess they decided that blue was right out because it would make you too fast and they didn't want the liability.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: CrashGordon on April 18, 2012, 07:52:19 PM
I tried one on the other day and I must say, it was plush and comfy. In the end, I just couldn't talk myself into spending that much and went with another full-face instead. Interesting to hear the comment on it being loud. Webbikeworld rated it good in the noise department and really loved everything about it (except the price).
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: marku8a on April 18, 2012, 09:11:58 PM
-I'm a long time Arai user (Quantum-2, RX-7 and currently an RX-Q) I wear a Lg and got a Lg in the Shoei. The Arai is a much more snug fit. The Shoei is much more comfortable, but it almost feels like it's too big. That could just be that I'm so used to the Arai.

This was exactly my experience trying on a couple of Neotecs in a shop. I am used to the Arai fit. The Neotec medium was too small and the large felt loose. Had one been the fit I was expecting, I probably would have gone for it.

Mark
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 18, 2012, 09:24:46 PM
This was exactly my experience trying on a couple of Neotecs in a shop. I am used to the Arai fit. The Neotec medium was too small and the large felt loose. Had one been the fit I was expecting, I probably would have gone for it.

Mark

Can't you get thicker cheek pads etc for the Shoei's like you can for the Arai's??  ???
 
My wife and daughter share the same helmet (Arai Corsair V), I just swap out the head liner and check pads depending on who's wearing it...  :-\
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: martin_14 on April 19, 2012, 12:04:41 AM

Can't you get thicker cheek pads etc for the Shoei's like you can for the Arai's??  ???
 

Yes, you can. For instance, when I was at the shop I tried the XL in two different colors, and my head fitted nicely but my face was tight in one of them, and very tight on the other. The the sales guy checked and they were fitted with the 35 and 37 cheek pads size. My Shoei XR-1000 has the 33 size. I'm going to get it this weekend  8)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: ZG on April 19, 2012, 04:32:00 PM
Yes, you can. For instance, when I was at the shop I tried the XL in two different colors, and my head fitted nicely but my face was tight in one of them, and very tight on the other. The the sales guy checked and they were fitted with the 35 and 37 cheek pads size. My Shoei XR-1000 has the 33 size. I'm going to get it this weekend  8)

Cool, that's what I figured Martin, thanks!  :)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: marku8a on April 20, 2012, 08:15:56 PM
Yes, you can. For instance, when I was at the shop I tried the XL in two different colors, and my head fitted nicely but my face was tight in one of them, and very tight on the other. The the sales guy checked and they were fitted with the 35 and 37 cheek pads size. My Shoei XR-1000 has the 33 size. I'm going to get it this weekend  8)

Good to know. Do you have a recommended source for replacement pads?

Mark
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: wendel on April 21, 2012, 06:13:37 AM
Compacc.com
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: martin_14 on April 26, 2012, 11:20:17 AM
I finally got my head around the price and ordered the helmet. Funnily, the one place where I found it some 10% cheaper (there seems to be a tight grip from Shoei regarding price on this helmet) didn't have the cheek pad size that I preferred, that is, 33. They told me that they usually come from factory fitted with 35 and I could get it with 31 or 37 as well, but right now they didn't have the 33 size, but also added that if I should try the 35 and give them a little while to brake in and I can change them later on if I still don't like them. So I hope the helmet comes before the weekend and I get to try it.  :)
I'll try to report my thoughts on it after I wear it for a while.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: randaddy on April 26, 2012, 01:48:22 PM
Quote
Okay guys here we go, Just found out shoei has set a price but i think this is a very fair price at 515.00 no tax and free delivery...When you call please inform Jeff that you are from the st owners forum and the code for this group by is 123ST.. We have a total of 20 guys and i could not get the price down any further due to shoei,s vendor policy with pricing ..if your still in please call Jeff at 877 837 0047.

I ordered a Neotec in matte black from Jeff last Thursday. It was shipped by UPS Friday and arrived yesterday. Great service. Fast delivery. Now I need to go for a ride and try it out.

Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: sherob on April 26, 2012, 01:58:17 PM
I ordered a Neotec in matte black from Jeff last Thursday. It was shipped by UPS Friday and arrived yesterday. Great service. Fast delivery. Now I need to go for a ride and try it out.

Cool!  8)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec
Post by: martin_14 on April 27, 2012, 10:37:29 AM
I've just got my Neotec today! It's an XL in Anthracite color, and I wanted to test just how honest Shoei was on the weight they declare. At least according to my kitchen scale, the helmet weighs 1665 gr (58.8 oz), 5 grams less than the 1670 that came on the sticker, and that is with the pinlock and breath guard installed.
As I expected (since I tried it on the shop), the fit is spot on, exactly like my Shoei XR-1000 when new, which I can wear for hours without any hot spots.
I felt bad about ordering it online after trying it not once but twice in the shop, but they only had the metallic black of the white colors, and I got hooked on the Anthracite when I saw it on another shop which didn't have my size. I bought from this shop before and wanted to give them my business because the service is top notch, so I asked if they could order it. They said "yes, it would take two weeks to come", which would be just a couple of days after I go on my 4000 miles tour. And I don't want to go on such a trip with a helmet that isn't at least a bit broken in.
I'm glad to report that, at least for ten minutes on the comfort of my living room, the helmet does not bother me one bit. As I mentioned before, I had to order it with the 35 size cheek pads and yes, they are a tad tight, but even after ten minutes they seem to be adapting to my cheeks (or the other way around  :D) so I think it's a keeper.
One thing I'd like to remark is something I haven't read in any review: the quality of the sun visor. I tried all the other sun visor equiped helmets that I could find before shelling out 530 euros (yes, that's 703 USD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :banghead:) and except for the Schuberts, everything else just didn't cut it.
Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: sherob on June 14, 2012, 03:54:37 PM
For those that would like a Neotec, I was told the group buy on this is going to stay open... details below.

Okay guys here we go, Just found out shoei has set a price but i think this is a very fair price at 515.00 no tax and free delivery...When you call please inform Jeff that you are from the st owners forum and the code for this group by is 123ST.. We have a total of 20 guys and i could not get the price down any further due to shoei,s vendor policy with pricing ..if your still in please call Jeff at 877 837 0047.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: marku8a on June 14, 2012, 09:05:28 PM
For those that would like a Neotec, I was told the group buy on this is going to stay open...


Will you please provide a link to the st owners forum that has the details? I looked at the st site but I couldn't find the group buy thread.

Mark
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: TJ on June 15, 2012, 12:57:36 AM
Nice looking helmets. Almost an exact copy of the Bombaider helmets we bought for running snow mobiles 10-12 years ago. Even then they had the flip down sun shield.
I am interested in the group buy as well if it is still going on.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: Kinetic1 on June 15, 2012, 07:20:30 AM
I tried a neotech and and HJC symax III and ended up buying a Qwest. I really wanted a  modular but the only one I found to be acceptable was the Shuberth and just couldn't pull the trigger on that much for a lid. I used to have no problem buying 700+ Arai's but I just couldn't do it. I really like my Qwest but you simply have to buy a pin lock shield for it because it fogs up very easily. It also has the best thing in a helmet....vents that actually work. Shoei and Arai have always been very good at this. Both neotech and the symax felt cheap to me and they both fit wierd. I couldn't find a size to fit me properly. I still would really like a Shuberth.....maybe Christmas time.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: sherob on June 15, 2012, 07:48:18 AM

Will you please provide a link to the st owners forum that has the details? I looked at the st site but I couldn't find the group buy thread.

Mark

Happy reading...

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?114589-Hello-all-Group-buy-on-the-Neotech&highlight= (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?114589-Hello-all-Group-buy-on-the-Neotech&highlight=)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: marku8a on June 15, 2012, 09:30:31 PM
Happy reading...

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?114589-Hello-all-Group-buy-on-the-Neotech&highlight= (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?114589-Hello-all-Group-buy-on-the-Neotech&highlight=)

Thanks Sherob. I pulled the trigger this afternoon.

Mark
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: TJ on July 24, 2012, 12:45:30 PM
Just received mine from Helmet City and have a question. What are those small black plastic pins located on each end of the visor? At first I was going to remove them thinking they were glued on but then noticed they go through the visor.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: sherob on July 24, 2012, 01:30:24 PM
Just received mine from Helmet City and have a question. What are those small black plastic pins located on each end of the visor? At first I was going to remove them thinking they were glued on but then noticed they go through the visor.

You talking about the pinlock's? 

Click "CNS-1 SHIELD"

http://www.shoei-helmets.com/neotec.aspx (http://www.shoei-helmets.com/neotec.aspx)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: TJ on July 24, 2012, 02:30:28 PM
Am guessing that is what they are, what are they used for?
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: sherob on July 24, 2012, 02:43:06 PM
You should have an anti fog shield to snap into place using them... it should have come with gratis...
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: TJ on July 24, 2012, 11:14:22 PM
You should have an anti fog shield to snap into place using them... it should have come with gratis...

I see the fog shield, thanks. Should or read the instructions, lol

BTY took a ride tonight. Nice helmet! Flip down sun screen is really cool. But helmet is not really that much quieter than my old 1000.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: Boomer on July 25, 2012, 06:01:19 AM
Almost an exact copy of the Bombaider helmets we bought for running snow mobiles 10-12 years ago.
Those were actually Lazer Revolutions, made in Belgium, badged by Bombardier.
Came with a double-glazed visor and the option to have a heated visor.
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/lazer-revolution (http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/lazer-revolution)
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: marku8a on July 25, 2012, 07:54:25 PM
Mine arrived a few weeks ago. I decided on a medium but it was way too tight at the cheeks. I contacted Shoie before the purchase and confirmed that they will swap the cheek pads at no charge except the postage required to send the original pads to them. I did that and now the fit is perfect.

I have about 500 miles riding with it now. It’s the best venting helmet I have owned (had quite a few). The noise increase is not terrible. The weight for my medium is 1741g vs 1507g for my Arai Quantum or a 16% increase.

The most surprising thing to me is that the way the face opening is configured. I can now see the instrument cluster and mirrors in my peripheral vision. This was completely blocked with my Arai. One time while I was riding with my Arai, a forest service emergency vehicle was behind me with all the zillion lights blazing but I didn’t notice until they hit the siren to get my attention. I had no clue they were back there. Not a problem with the Shoie.

Glad that I made the investment.

Mark
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: qyetman on July 25, 2012, 08:37:43 PM
I too just received a new silver Neotec after a 6 week wait (silver was back ordered). Great helmet with cool new features, but it is twice as noisy as my old RF1000 and it is 13 years old. The vents work great but also increase the noise level. Rode in temps from 65 to 100 F and was comfortable the entire time. I only have about 900 miles of riding on it so far. Hopefully once I get speakers mounted in it I won't notice the wind noise as much. :-\
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: TJ on July 26, 2012, 01:59:51 AM
I too just received a new silver Neotec after a 6 week wait (silver was back ordered). Great helmet with cool new features, but it is twice as noisy as my old RF1000 and it is 13 years old. The vents work great but also increase the noise level. Rode in temps from 65 to 100 F and was comfortable the entire time. I only have about 900 miles of riding on it so far. Hopefully once I get speakers mounted in it I won't notice the wind noise as much. :-\

Please keep us posted what speakers you are installing and how the install went.
Thanks
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: ZG on January 01, 2013, 06:10:06 PM
Ok, yet another reason I'm loving this Neotec I bought this past summer... Not sure why I took so long to try it out but this morning I installed the Pinlock anti-fog lens that comes in the box with the Neotec, WOW!  :thumbs: :thumbs:
 
I've always just cracked the bottom of my helmet shield a bit in the winter months to keep from fogging up the shield, installed this thing today and went for a nice ride (temps in the mid-30's) with the helmet shield fully down the entire time and it worked awesome, no fogging at all.  :)
 
Why the heck did I wait so long to install it...  :banghead: :nuts:
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: 556ALPHA on January 01, 2013, 06:14:26 PM
I have the Pinlock in the Multitec and it works great.  Otherwise I would be freezing on the way to work.
Title: Re: excuses for a Shoei Neotec [EDIT: got it!!!]
Post by: devilboy on January 01, 2013, 09:22:49 PM
Love my Neotec.  Have a black Hi Gloss  since  April of this year.    went down wearing a multitec at 45 mph and hit head first , had the shield up slightly and helmet was trashed  but it did its job...  No Damage to  my head  and even removed helmet before EMTS came and they gave me s**t about it. but didnt have any neck issues , ringing in ears or even a headache....
Multitec  ventilation is horrible in comparison and it you have a Shoei shaped head  it is your best bet...  you can fix ANY other part of your body but your brain....My head is worth $500+