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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: ZG on March 16, 2012, 07:22:35 PM

Title: Braided lines questions... Need your help.
Post by: ZG on March 16, 2012, 07:22:35 PM
Bday coming up in a couple weeks, trying to decide on what to waste $ on...  ;)
 
I'm looking to have some braided lines made up (F&R brakes and clutch), a question for you that have em on your Connie...

Did you just eliminate that square box that bolts onto the front of the upper triple clamp and just take out that connection altogether?  :-\

If so, did you then find a way to secure the line back to that general area or just leave it hang loose?? If so, any pics??

Thanks!
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: Cuda on March 16, 2012, 07:38:58 PM
Spiegler I just used small black zip ties on the SS line .
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: Pokey on March 16, 2012, 07:41:52 PM
Use your money for something more worthwhile IMHO.
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 16, 2012, 07:43:25 PM
Spiegler I just used small black zip ties on the SS line .

Can you post a pic?
 
I will also be having Spiegler make mine but this square block seems to be a challenge because I want to go with black banjo's and smoke colored lines but I don't want to have to re-use that silver oem square box...  :(
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 16, 2012, 07:44:36 PM
Use your money for something more worthwhile IMHO.

Already have, running out of things to buy for this bike...  :banghead:
 
Should I just sell it and move on?  ??? ;)
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: Pokey on March 16, 2012, 07:46:24 PM

Already have, running out of things to buy for this bike...  :banghead:
 
Should I just sell it and move on?  ??? ;)

Nope.....just ride it and enjoy all the money you have already blown on it. 8) Buy yourself a used dualsport to compliment the C14, I can see you having some fun with that.
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: philipintexas on March 16, 2012, 07:57:50 PM
You can't tell them from the stock blocks.

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/philipintexas/Brake%20Lines/BrakeNov2010.jpg)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/philipintexas/Brake%20Lines/SplitBlocks16Mar2010001.jpg)
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 16, 2012, 08:18:14 PM
Nope.....just ride it and enjoy all the money you have already blown on it. 8) Buy yourself a used dualsport to compliment the C14, I can see you having some fun with that.

Already have more bikes in the garage then I have time to ride Poke, so adding another isn't really an option... This will be my bday present so it should be frivolous without guilt right?? (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif)
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 16, 2012, 08:19:37 PM
You can't tell them from the stock blocks.

 :P
 
Me like Phil!  8)
 
Do you sell these??
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: maxtog on March 16, 2012, 08:51:11 PM

Already have, running out of things to buy for this bike...  :banghead:
 
Should I just sell it and move on?  ??? ;)

Yes.  Trade it in for a black 2012 Concours :)

Either that or drive across the country to the Old Dominion and start throwing your money and effort at *my* Concours!
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: Pokey on March 16, 2012, 08:59:28 PM

Already have more bikes in the garage then I have time to ride Poke, so adding another isn't really an option... This will be my bday present so it should be frivolous without guilt right?? (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif)

No guilt should be felt at all. :)
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: jqram35 on March 16, 2012, 09:00:35 PM
Don't listen to them ZG gitrdun!
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: Gumby on March 16, 2012, 09:06:31 PM
Already have more bikes in the garage then I have time to ride
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/Nowthatsagarage.jpg)
That's crazy talk. One can never have to many bikes to ride. But a dualsport? Not so sure Jay has ever seen dirt or sand on a bike. How about a Buell?
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 16, 2012, 09:11:08 PM
But a dualsport? Not so sure Jay has ever seen dirt or sand on a bike. How about a Buell?

 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 16, 2012, 09:18:07 PM
Either that or drive across the country to the Old Dominion and start throwing your money and effort at *my* Concours!

I would start with paint Max...  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 16, 2012, 09:22:21 PM
Don't listen to them ZG gitrdun!

You and I are gonna get along well here JQ...  ;)   :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: Cuda on March 16, 2012, 09:46:36 PM
Black is HOTTER,  south Florida and black NO
I would have bought a WHITE ZG if I could have, my windshield  is down most of the time , I'm going to get a shortie for summer , It's always summer down here.
I need a seat cooler not heater, tell Corbin to get to work on that one.
Braided arm pit hair is in now, ought to try that.
http://youtu.be/_r5kPs2bp08 (http://youtu.be/_r5kPs2bp08)
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: C14PAINKILLER on March 16, 2012, 10:45:45 PM
Well, since you asked, and we all know how you like black. Here is a site for you, that will just possibly top off your ride. ;)

http://helusa.com/ (http://helusa.com/)

And I dare you to choose from one of their 19 colours ;D

Cheers man!
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 17, 2012, 12:35:35 AM
@ Cuda...  :o
 :doublepuke:
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: Pokey on March 17, 2012, 12:38:24 AM
You must go black, don't give in to the purple!!!!! :thumbs:
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: OCK913 on March 17, 2012, 02:47:25 AM
Well, since you asked, and we all know how you like black. Here is a site for you, that will just possibly top off your ride. ;)

http://helusa.com/ (http://helusa.com/)

And I dare you to choose from one of their 19 colours ;D

After scrolling through all 20+ pages of Kawasaki, I am not seeing a kit for an 09 Concours. It is possible that I missed it, all the numbers started blending together after about 4-5 pages.
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: philipintexas on March 17, 2012, 09:56:50 AM
Does anyone have Spiegler brake lines, and can you accurately measure tho OUTSIDE diameter? Needs to be an accurate measurment, without compressing the line,  as in MM or thousandts of an inch?   
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 17, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Thank you Phil for making me some of those blocks in your pics prior in this thread, you da'man!!  8)
 
For everyone I have another question that I need help on...
My bike is an ABS model, for those of you that have ABS did you re-use the blocks where the soft line and hard line meet?? There are 2 of these connections up front and one on the back, see pics below...
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif)
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00894-20120317-1247.jpg)
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00898-20120317-1251.jpg)
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00895-20120317-1247.jpg)
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00897-20120317-1251.jpg)
Title: Re: Braided lines questions... Need your help.
Post by: Cuda on March 17, 2012, 06:35:50 PM
I hear you ZG when I called Spiegler about my clutch line, they said send us your old one and tell us how much longer you need it? 
Now I under stand the how much longer you need it , but someone should sell Spiegler lines  and know what ends and lengths we need instead of every time someone wants a line they have to start this **** all over again?
The lines only cost about $50 some,  I guess not enough mark up for anyone to care?
I would say lose those blocks , that is what I was going to do , But I know nothing about these lines (blocks), so my opinion is worthless, anyone know for sure?
Title: Re: Braided lines questions... Need your help.
Post by: ZG on March 17, 2012, 08:29:36 PM
Well I dropped my Connie off at the shop today, they're pulling all my lines and shipping them to Spiegler so that they can make me up a matching set in smoke colored braided lines with black banjo's...  8)
 
I still need ideas/thoughts on these blocks below in the pics I posted, if I can't find a solution I'm gonna have to tell Spiegler to some how re-use those blocks, those connections (blocks) are needed for the hard lines to connect back into the soft lines for the ABS I believe...  :-\
 
Why do I feel like I'm always the guinea pig with this bike...  :banghead:
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: C14PAINKILLER on March 17, 2012, 09:36:03 PM
After scrolling through all 20+ pages of Kawasaki, I am not seeing a kit for an 09 Concours. It is possible that I missed it, all the numbers started blending together after about 4-5 pages.
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Yeah, alot of pages to go through. You may have to custom order it, had a friend of mine have to do that. A bit pricey for me but some just have the money no object state of mind. :o
Title: Re: Braided lines questions... Need your help.
Post by: Cuda on March 17, 2012, 10:31:24 PM
The hand brake is EL-0620-032-610 mine is what they call Clear/Silver
Silver 2011 bike
They knew what to make because that is the LSL required part # and they don't use any blocks ? I guess Phil's idea will work , Hey Phil I need two also ;)
 .
 Tell them to keep the part #'s so anyone else can just order without BS.
Thanks JJ

www.spieglerusa.com (http://www.spieglerusa.com)
Title: Re: Braided lines questions... Need your help.
Post by: ZG on March 17, 2012, 10:36:04 PM
The hand brake is EL-0620-032-610 mine is what they call Clear/Silver
Silver 2011 bike
They knew what to make because that is the LSL required part # and they don't use any blocks ? I guess Phil's idea will work , Hey Phil I need two also ;)
 When you send them in I need a clutch line Clear/Silver about three inches longer .
 Tell them to keep the part #'s so anyone else can just order without BS.
Thanks JJ

www.spieglerusa.com (http://www.spieglerusa.com/)

Hey Cuda,
Since yours is obviously an ABS model if a 2011 what did you do about the blocks I mentioned where the hard and soft lines connect to each other??
Title: Re: Braided lines questions... Need your help.
Post by: Cuda on March 18, 2012, 12:16:06 AM
To be honest I did not hook the new line up yet I just unbolted the top blocks to get enough hose so I could use the bike  :)
I just looked at the clutch line and you could order the same line as the brake line and you will have PLENTY of hose, that is what I'm going to do .
 Now If you want to get real annal I guess you could send in those lines and see IF they have a block to put on there to match OEM ,(so it would be REAL secure) I would send pictures first if that is what YOU want to do, but It looks to me that you unscrew the hard line from the block and then attach the new line to the hard line with out blocks,  because it is a female fitting on that end that looks like it will fit.
I bought the LSL handlebar kit used it did not come with Instructions , but Spiegler said LSL calls for this part #?
I'm sure others on this site have done the LSL conversion ask them , on the other forum,  cog-online that guy started a thread about LSL's ask him about the blocks.
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: Glennn on March 18, 2012, 08:45:47 PM

Already have (spent money on more worthwhile), running out of things to buy for this bike...  :banghead:

You don't have a tyre hugger (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=6737.msg80061) yet do you, solo boy?
Title: Re: Braided lines question...
Post by: ZG on March 18, 2012, 09:14:30 PM
You don't have a tyre hugger (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=6737.msg80061) yet do you, solo boy?

 ;D ;)