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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: stevewfl on March 15, 2012, 06:07:29 AM

Title: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: stevewfl on March 15, 2012, 06:07:29 AM
Its being stocked in motorcycle dealerships in Tampa and seems to be a big hit.  Our cops hide in the bushes with laser nowadays.

Anyone tried one?  Does it work well for you?

I realize some live in socialist states that don't allow such, I hope this thread doesn't spin into a legal debate but how the unit functions.

http://www.adaptivtechnologies.com/gear/tpx-laser-jammer (http://www.adaptivtechnologies.com/gear/tpx-laser-jammer)

Interesting claim:

"The TPX™ Laser Jammer is smarter than the average jammer. Its auto-shutoff feature allows you to concentrate on slowing your bike down instead of operating the jammer. When a signal is first detected, the system jams the signal for 7 seconds, then shuts down. This feature allows the gun to obtain a speed reading AFTER you’ve checked your speed."
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: ljcorby on March 15, 2012, 07:40:21 AM
I have the TPX detector and like it.  I thought about the jammer, but it is very expensive. 
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: stevewfl on March 15, 2012, 08:17:54 AM
I have the TPX detector and like it.  I thought about the jammer, but it is very expensive.

Cool

Around here the jammer is around $467.  I'm think if it saves 2 tickets between fines and insurance increase its a huge bargain =)
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: OregonLAN on March 15, 2012, 08:25:15 AM
I never exceed the speed limit, problem solved...  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: stevewfl on March 15, 2012, 08:27:50 AM
I never exceed the speed limit, problem solved...  ;)

Me either  ;)

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Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: stevewfl on March 15, 2012, 09:46:17 AM
Top?  Back on topic, anyone know anything about this???
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: booger on March 15, 2012, 04:35:38 PM
My BLACK 08 C-14 goes way too fast to be detected by a laser ;)
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: jamiemac on March 15, 2012, 05:35:11 PM
My BLACK 08 C-14 goes way too fast to be detected by a laser ;)
Hehe! I like this answer!LOL
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 15, 2012, 05:39:24 PM
My BLACK 08 C-14 goes way too fast to be detected by a laser ;)
Ahhhhhhh, camoflaged to reel in the unsuspecting ;D
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: feelergaugephil on March 15, 2012, 07:29:32 PM
You DO KNOW that these and all detectors ONLY work when the radar/laser is in armed mode,,,,,,,, if the cop is chilling and not pulling the radar trigger you dont know he's there, as soon as he pulls the trigger your detector goes nuts but he has YOUR SPEED.......... now he leaves it roam mode, yes you will pick up his signal way before his range..... and yes I'm talking from experience.
Radar is harder to prove in court UNLESS your the only vehicle, lazer is different, 100% accurate in everyway, apart from rain.
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: ZG on March 15, 2012, 08:03:22 PM
Ahhhhhhh, camoflaged to reel in the unsuspecting ;D

 :rotflmao:
 
That was actually a good one Chet, I'll give you that...  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 15, 2012, 08:14:55 PM
Even a blind squirrel gits a nut now and then ;)
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: Kirby on March 15, 2012, 08:24:00 PM
And what exactly is THAT supposed to mean?

Kirby (my eyesight is as good as my hearing or sense of smell)

Even a blind squirrel gits a nut now and then ;)
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 15, 2012, 08:31:22 PM
And what exactly is THAT supposed to mean?

Kirby (my eyesight is as good as my hearing or sense of smell)
Kirby, I'm so happy you came along, we are all trusting that you can give the definative proof we are seeking in regards to Neutron Silver being the vastly quicker KIPASS equiped machine :hail:
BTW, I met one of your cousins, her name is Kippy, I took some pics, but the paper is still wet, so once they are dry I will post the pics up
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: stevewfl on March 15, 2012, 09:03:04 PM
You DO KNOW that these and all detectors ONLY work when the radar/laser is in armed mode,,,,,,,, if the cop is chilling and not pulling the radar trigger you dont know he's there, as soon as he pulls the trigger your detector goes nuts but he has YOUR SPEED.......... now he leaves it roam mode, yes you will pick up his signal way before his range..... and yes I'm talking from experience.
Radar is harder to prove in court UNLESS your the only vehicle, lazer is different, 100% accurate in everyway, apart from rain.

This is NOT a detector

According to the company, the jammer is jamming all the time not just when the trigger is pulled or not.
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: wally_games on March 15, 2012, 09:22:00 PM
This is NOT a detector

According to the company, the jammer is jamming all the time not just when the trigger is pulled or not.

I believe I've read somewhere that jammers don't really work all that well, and other places that claims that they do.

I know the OP wasn't all that interested in a legality discussion, but as of last September radar and laser jammers are illegal in Texas. Not just illegal to use, but illegal to even have on your vehicle (unless it was on your vehicle prior to some grandfathered-in date).
http://guysoflidar.com/texas-laser-jammer-laws.html (http://guysoflidar.com/texas-laser-jammer-laws.html) and many others if you care to search.
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: ZG on March 15, 2012, 09:27:15 PM
I've never used a jammer but I did almost get one a couple years back and was told that the jammer throws an error code to the LEO's gun, which then alerts you that you've been tagged (attempted) and at that point you need to slow down fast and turn off the jammer so that when they restet and hit you again they get a slower (hopefully within speed limit) reading?? Not sure if this is totally true but is what I was told, if true this might be challenging on a bike with gloves on in that situation to turn it off in time for round 2...  ??? :-\
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 15, 2012, 09:32:08 PM
Another not sure if it's true things but I have heard that the jammers really mess with airports and that it is a federal offense.  Don't/wouldn't take the chance anywhere near an airport.  Personally, I would spend the $$ on a new exhaust ;D
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: Gsun on March 15, 2012, 09:57:41 PM
I've never used a jammer but I did almost get one a couple years back and was told that the jammer throws an error code to the LEO's gun, which then alerts you that you've been tagged (attempted) and at that point you need to slow down fast and turn off the jammer so that when they restet and hit you again they get a slower (hopefully within speed limit) reading?? Not sure if this is totally true but is what I was told, if true this might be challenging on a bike with gloves on in that situation to turn it off in time for round 2...  ??? :-\

That's why the TPX unit is good - turns the jammer off after 7 seconds. I think it should probably turn it off faster. 7 seconds is long enough to get hit twice. But if you hide it in your fairing, the cop may think it was really a bad reading if he did stop you.
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: PH14 on March 16, 2012, 10:35:57 AM
Another not sure if it's true things but I have heard that the jammers really mess with airports and that it is a federal offense.  Don't/wouldn't take the chance anywhere near an airport.  Personally, I would spend the $$ on a new exhaust ;D

I do not believe a laser jammer could affect anything at an airport since they do not use laser, they use radar. A radar jammer possibly, but not a laser jammer. I would also find it hard to believe a radar jammer designed to affect police radar could have any affect on airport radar since they are on completely different frequencies. If the jammer could affect airport radar, then the police radar itself would affect airport radar.
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: B.D.F. on March 16, 2012, 11:02:29 AM
Nah, what is being talked about here is infrared light, not any type of radio waves.

Supposed to be that some laser jammers work quite well and will not generate any type of internal error or indication of jamming at the radar device. I would imagine that any LEO's suspecting a vehicle actually did jam his / her tracking device would be a bit cranky and may find other things wrong with the operation of that vehicle or even the vehicle itself. I am not accusing anyone of anything, just pointing out basic human nature- most of us don't like to be one- upped. I am not a LEO, just surmising here. I personally would be careful where and how I mounted the laser RX / TX itself so it was as discreet as possible.

As to the legality, while radio broadcasting is regulated anywhere in the US, as well as most other countries, light emission is not regulated. In the end, LEO laser devices are nothing more than modulated light so emitting light back at them is not fundamentally illegal, excepting higher powered lasers of course but those are already regulated for safety anyway (higher powered lasers can burn retinas). Of course some states specifically target laser emitters so they would be illegal to use in those states. There does not seem to be any move on the federal level to stop their use though; perhaps it is the high price of the units that keeps them from being common enough to be a concern.

Brian


Another not sure if it's true things but I have heard that the jammers really mess with airports and that it is a federal offense.  Don't/wouldn't take the chance anywhere near an airport.  Personally, I would spend the $$ on a new exhaust ;D
Title: Re: Anyone using a TPX laser jammer?
Post by: Rhino on March 16, 2012, 11:45:28 AM
I've thought about it but its soooo pricey. But I have to agree that if it saved 2 tickets it would be worth it. But does it work?