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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: OregonJim on March 02, 2012, 09:56:58 AM

Title: C14 advice pls
Post by: OregonJim on March 02, 2012, 09:56:58 AM
Greetings all: I just joined the forum and am looking for some help. Sold my BMW R1150RT last year, at the age of 61, thinking I was done motorcycling. Now, I'm having those old pangs. My question: What do I need to know about the C14 -- vs. ST1300 or R1200RT -- to make a wise buying decision. I'm wondering about common problems, ease of maintenance, gas mileage, the weight issue, anything else you think is relevant. FYI, I've owned more than a dozen motorcycles over 40 years of riding, including a 1986 C10 (yes, it had the dreaded cam chain tensioner issue). All opinions appreciated.

Thanks, Jim
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: lt1 on March 02, 2012, 11:04:05 AM
My first opinion was that 61 is OLD.  Then I remembered my own age.  It was a bit of a shock to realize how close I am. :)

MPG-high 30's to mid 40's for most of us.  Other than valves, maintenance isn't too bad.  The plastics make things take longer/cost more, but most everything is within the capabilities of a decent wrench.

If you haven't started losing too much muscle mass, the weight is manageable.  In motion, the bike is fine.  If you have a 32" inseam and reasonable strength, you s/b fine.  Many shorter riders are fine with the C14, but you would have to decide if you or the bike could accomodate each other.

I have a friend with an R1150RT, and while the bikes are compatible with the C14, there is enough difference that liking one may not mean liking the other.  Most of us here really like the C14, but this would be your bike purchase, so you need to be honest with yourself as to what you are looking for.   With your years & # of bikes experience, you are free to know and get what you really want, rather than what someone else thinks might be best for you.

Best wishes.

Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: jkramer on March 02, 2012, 11:50:30 AM
Im 64 and enjoying my c14 more than any other bike ive ever had. Ive never outgrown my need for speed and I will never grow up. Besides 61, 64, 68, or whatever is just a number. I still have a harley softail deuce and it hasent been ridden more than 3 miles since I got the c14, thats been 8 months. The weight is not a problem at all, especially compaired to goldwings,ultra classics or big touring bikes or virtually any harley. And to boot my wife loves to ride with me, we ride every chance we get. I could go on and on about the c14 and how I cant stay off it but Ill stop now. God bless 
 
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: So Cal Joe on March 02, 2012, 11:52:32 AM
O.K. now 61 isn't old, I'm 62 and went from 26 years of Gold Wings to a Concours 1400. My 82 years old riding buddy has a BMW 1300GT and puts about 15,000 mile a year on it, so age has no bearing. The Concours is more of a sport bike than a tourer, the ST1300 is more of a tourer than a sport bike. I think the BMW 1300Gt is better at both but is a lot higher priced also.
The ST 1300 has a bigger tank, 7.7 gls. the concours has 5.8 and the BMW has I think 6.6 but not sure. The BMW gets a constant 50 + MPG my Concours get about 42 and my friends 09 ST 1300 gets in the high 40's. Maintenance is probably close on all of them.  The Concours has a 6 speed tranny, tire pressure monitoring system, gear indicator, volt meter, and some other OEM stuff that the ST 1300 doesn't have. The BMW has them all plus cruise control and self cancelling turn signals. I woulsd say test ride them all and see which one fits you the best.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Rhino on March 02, 2012, 12:16:19 PM
Other stuff you should know:

2008-2009 ABS optional
2010          ABS with traction control optional, heated grips standard, better heat dissipation for the rider
2011+        ABS with traction control standard

I think the weight and size could be an issue depending on your inseam. I'm 56, have 32" inseam and this bike is no problem what so ever. I put a Russel seat on it and then it became a problem. I had to push myself right up to the tank at stops and was still on toes. If I stopped some where with a slope and sand or gravel, was a bit scary. Went back to stock seat and no problem again.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Tim on March 02, 2012, 02:56:51 PM
The only thing I can do is echo everyone else. I’m just a couple of years behind ya and love the 14. This bike has put a smile back on my face. Gas mileage could be better but I’m ready to get off at 220 miles on the tank any ways. It is important you have a 32 inch inseam or better as this bike is tall. But once underway it’s easy to go where you want too.

If you find a good deal on a 08 or 09, don’t worry about the ‘heat” issue. It’s true these 14’s dump heat down at the feet, but long pants and boots take care of this. I have had a large amount of heat come up through the triple tree area while stopped at stop light in 100 + degree heat and was glad to get underway again. The 14 has a big motor and the cooling system does a great job of keeping the engine cool. This is the only fault I find for myself on this machine. Others might have problems with the Kipass but I have not.

I like the ABS. I felt the bake brake pulsing one time when stopping on some sand but I got stopped without sliding. 
 
The stock tires suck. When you put Pilot Road 2’s or 3’s on, it becomes a better handling bike by leaps and bounds. I have 11K miles on the PR 2’s I have and they still have another year left on them.

Best, TimR
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: JeffM on March 02, 2012, 03:41:32 PM
I can't offer advice as I've not owned a bike in 20 years or so, but I too have the itch and have been keeping an eye out.

There is a great ST forum here: http://www.st-owners.com/forums/index.php (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/index.php)

For what it's worth, I read quite a few posts from former ST owners that now own a Connie, but have yet to come across a current ST owner that came from a Connie.

In any case, the st-owners forum is  filled with really great folks that ride all kinds of bikes. No matter what I settle on, that's the main place I'll hang out still.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on March 02, 2012, 04:21:30 PM
Here is my opinion FWIW.

ST1300 (only ridden for about 20 miles)-
Comfortable bike with tons of range
Kinda vanilla if you know what I mean (performance and looks)
Honda reliablity

R1200RT (another short ride)
COST!
Pretty comfortable right out of the box without feeling like it needs a new seat, bars.......
COST!  ($$$$$$)

C14
Is a great mix of sport and touring
so-so fuel mileage (I usually get between 38-42 mpg)
might take a little time and money to get it to fit you
doesn't take much to uncork the motor for ear to ear grins when you whack the throttle
eats rear tires like they are going out of style if you ride agressively
I have said this before but I will say it again.

Call me Goldilocks since the C14 is my "just right" bowl of porridge.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: maxtog on March 02, 2012, 04:27:18 PM
It is important you have a 32 inch inseam or better as this bike is tall. But once underway it’s easy to go where you want too.

Funny that no less than three replies mention inseam when the OP didn't say anything about tallness :)

Do note that there is no one perfect way to measure "inseam", so any number someone quotes isn't that exact.  That said, I have short legs (27" clothing, 30" true) and a long torso.  The Concours is quite a handful....errr... a "legfull" and can be problematic for those people with shorter legs.  Of course, that is true of most any sports, dual-sport, or sports-touring bike and is not restricted to the Concours.

Anyway, I was forced to lower it and also wear heightened boots, but I can manage it now.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=260.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=260.0)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: gPink on March 02, 2012, 04:28:02 PM
I can't offer advice as I've not owned a bike in 20 years or so, but I too have the itch and have been keeping an eye out.

There is a great ST forum here: http://www.st-owners.com/forums/index.php (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/index.php)

For what it's worth, I read quite a few posts from former ST owners that now own a Connie, but have yet to come across a current ST owner that came from a Connie.

In any case, the st-owners forum is  filled with really great folks that ride all kinds of bikes. No matter what I settle on, that's the main place I'll hang out still.




Hope you enjoy the other forum as much as I enjoy this one.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: W14 on March 02, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
+1 on the earlier posts. One thing about the C14 is that one twist on the throttle will make you forget that you are 61
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: JeffM on March 02, 2012, 05:26:32 PM
I enjoy this one too, that's why I'm here.  ;)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: SANDPSYCHO on March 02, 2012, 05:43:13 PM
The R1200RT is a nice bike when everything works. The single sided swing arm is prone to failure, they go out right about the same time the warranty does. As reliable as the 1150 was the 1200 isn't. It is the most expensive of the three bikes and the slowest.  It is comfortable and handles very well and has great brakes. I have put 60k + miles on an RT and I’ve been in more tow trucks then I can count.

The ST1300 is getting old and the only thing Honda has done to it is raise the price. It's faster than the RT but it will start dragging parts in a lean before the RT or C14.

The C14 is the fastest of the 3 and the cheapest. It has a ton of technology for the price, much more than the Honda and just as much if not more than the RT.  It has the smallest gas tank and the most aggressive seating position. To sit like you would on the RT or ST you have to get riser blocks.

None of the bikes have a windshield that would make someone over 6’ happy.  ;D

When I was looking to buy back in October, BMW was out, too much money, to many issues.  The FJR was on my list til I sat on it.  It just didn’t fit under me to my liking.  So I was down to the ST and the C!4.  For the reasons above this Honda guy went with the C14.  I absolutely love the bike but no matter what bike you choose the important thing is you get back on a bike.  You’re too young to hang it up!
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: jkramer on March 02, 2012, 06:55:25 PM
I like what w14 said. One twist of the throttle and you forget your age !!!!
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: OregonJim on March 02, 2012, 09:01:09 PM
Wow, thanks for all the responses. What a great forum! W14 gets the biggest smile with his line on the C14's acceleration making me forget my age. Never got that feeling from my R1150RT. FYI, I learned today that one can buy a Kawasaki through Costco. C14 w/abs for $14,655 out-the-door. Anyone hear of a better price?
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: ZG on March 02, 2012, 09:27:46 PM
All you need to know is the black ones are faster...  ;)
 
Happy hunting bro!  :)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Tim on March 02, 2012, 10:35:21 PM
All you need to know is the black ones are faster...  ;)
 
Happy hunting bro!  :)


Naaw, ZG, it's the red ones are faster.  8) The boys are right, the C14 moves with little effort. Passing cars could be a new sport. I'm only 23 don't ya know :o  Well in my mind any way.

I forget to cover the fact that on a C14, you will take the long way home with a grin on yer face!

Costco ya say.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: ZG on March 03, 2012, 12:25:52 AM

Naaw, ZG, it's the red ones are faster.  8)

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/Bitchslap6.gif)  ;D
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 03, 2012, 12:27:56 AM
What's the color of asphalt?  How fast does that go?  And Harleys are primarily what?  It is a purty color standing still, after each daily washing ;D

And what color are STOP lights?  Red.

Quicksilver fellers ;D  Subtle green streaks would make it illegal ;)

To the OP, 3 things to increase comfort, seat, murphs pegs, and LSL bars.  www.murphskits.com (http://www.murphskits.com)
I liked my R1150RT, plush ride, fairly well balanced, tractor like torque and tranny, short service intervals, OK storage, and expensive service calls.  IMO very expensive vanilla.
Only 52000 miles on my '08, done a bit of everything riding wise, I plan on keeping her till she's beyond repair.  If I wanted a pure touring bike I would get a Wing, pure track bike I would find a good 600, if I wanted a new wife I would already have all three ;)  I have what I think is the best of all worlds and I get to keep my wife of 30 years ;D
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: ZG on March 03, 2012, 12:32:05 AM
Oh SoP... I really just don't know what to do with you bro, you're trapped in a silverdammit world of denial... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/facepalm.gif)
 
 ;D ;D ;D    :chugbeer:
 
 
 
 
 
 
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: maxtog on March 03, 2012, 07:14:52 AM
Oh SoP... I really just don't know what to do with you bro, you're trapped in a silverdammit world of denial...

Yeah, 'cause we all know that *REAL* silver (2011) is the color to have :)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 03, 2012, 08:39:19 AM
Oh SoP... I really just don't know what to do with you bro, you're trapped in a silverdammit world of denial... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/facepalm.gif)
 
 ;D ;D ;D    :chugbeer:

Some like 'Ludes and some like---------------cafeine :P

Spring is just around the corner, we got some riding to catch up on :thumbs:
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on March 03, 2012, 08:45:50 AM
Some like 'Ludes and some like---------------cafeine :P

Spring is just around the corner, we got some riding to catch up on :thumbs:

Chet, just be prepared for the mid ride cleaning.  Jay doesn't travel over 50 miles without a complete detail.   ;D   
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 03, 2012, 08:52:38 AM
Chet, just be prepared for the mid ride cleaning.  Jay doesn't travel over 50 miles without a complete detail.   ;D
Jay could give some roadside cleaning tips, some of the roads we'll be traveling will start out in rain land and end up in desert like conditions.  I hear he is looking at a trailer to haul all the cleaning supplies.  If he goes longer then 50 miles it starts resembling a silver bike ;D  I'll have a camera to document the beutification efforts :o  I sure hope he skips the tire shine, things will be slow enough that slick tires would make the journey feel like I'm riding with a coupla Harleys :P :P :P :-*
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: ZG on March 03, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
Chet, just be prepared for the mid ride cleaning.  Jay doesn't travel over 50 miles without a complete detail.   ;D   

Jay could give some roadside cleaning tips, some of the roads we'll be traveling will start out in rain land and end up in desert like conditions.  I hear he is looking at a trailer to haul all the cleaning supplies.  If he goes longer then 50 miles it starts resembling a silver bike ;D  I'll have a camera to document the beutification efforts :o  I sure hope he skips the tire shine, things will be slow enough that slick tires would make the journey feel like I'm riding with a coupla Harleys :P :P :P :-*

 
 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
 
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/shdwdeqw.jpg)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: SANDPSYCHO on March 03, 2012, 07:17:38 PM
What's the color of asphalt?  How fast does that go?  And Harleys are primarily what?  It is a purty color standing still, after each daily washing ;D

And what color are STOP lights?  Red.

Quicksilver fellers ;D  Subtle green streaks would make it illegal ;)

Nice attempt at rationalization but black is the fastest color. Harley went with the color in an attempt to overcome an out date bad design.  Let not pick on the museum piece and focus on the real issue. The fastest vehicle man has made was the SR-71 BLACKBIRD!  Not silver, not red, therefore Black is the fastest color.

 ;)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 03, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
Well, Black didn't work out so well for Harleys and the Blackbird started as silver but they couldn't get the wings to stay on due to the unexpected power and speed so they painted it black ;D
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Rhino on March 03, 2012, 11:29:37 PM
Nice attempt at rationalization but black is the fastest color. Harley went with the color in an attempt to overcome an out date bad design.  Let not pick on the museum piece and focus on the real issue. The fastest vehicle man has made was the SR-71 BLACKBIRD!  Not silver, not red, therefore Black is the fastest color.

 ;)

Hmmmm, actually the fastest man made vehicle is the New Horizons space craft launched at 36,373 mph. It looks silver to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons) But sadly I say this only because I couldn't fine a blue space craft.  :'(
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Conrad on March 04, 2012, 06:14:26 AM
Hmmmm, actually the fastest man made vehicle is the New Horizons space craft launched at 36,373 mph. It looks silver to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons) But sadly I say this only because I couldn't fine a blue space craft.  :'(

That's funny! I looked in the same place. Let's limit the speed record to at least something that a man can ride on/in shall we?

Looks like silver wins again!

Apollo 10  24,846mph

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Apollo-10-Lancering.jpg/408px-Apollo-10-Lancering.jpg)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on March 04, 2012, 06:27:31 AM
That's funny! I looked in the same place. Let's limit the speed record to at least something that a man can ride on/in shall we?

Looks like silver wins again!

Apollo 10  24,846mph

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Apollo-10-Lancering.jpg/408px-Apollo-10-Lancering.jpg)

Silver with some black.  Maybe I'm on to something....   ;D

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/flygirl5485/2012-02-22_15-07-54_597.jpg)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Rhino on March 04, 2012, 07:01:27 AM
That's funny! I looked in the same place. Let's limit the speed record to at least something that a man can ride on/in shall we?

Looks like silver wins again!

Apollo 10  24,846mph

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Apollo-10-Lancering.jpg/408px-Apollo-10-Lancering.jpg)

I see a lot of blue in this picture... just saying...
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: maxtog on March 04, 2012, 07:02:47 AM
Silver with some black.  Maybe I'm on to something....   ;D

You would be onto something if your bike were silver, but it is not... it is light baby blue :)   
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: maxtog on March 04, 2012, 07:05:56 AM
That's funny! I looked in the same place. Let's limit the speed record to at least something that a man can ride on/in shall we?

Looks like silver wins again!  Apollo 10  24,846mph

As much as I would love to agree with you, the Apollo 10 was white with some black squares....

http://history.nasa.gov/ap10fj/photos/ground/ap10-KSC-69PC-131HR.jpg (http://history.nasa.gov/ap10fj/photos/ground/ap10-KSC-69PC-131HR.jpg)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: capt chaos on March 04, 2012, 07:09:13 AM
Hmmmm, actually the fastest man made vehicle is the New Horizons space craft launched at 36,373 mph. It looks silver to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons) But sadly I say this only because I couldn't fine a blue space craft.  :'(

New Horizons is often erroneously given the title of Fastest Spacecraft Ever Launched, when in fact the Helios probes are the holders of that title. To be more specific New Horizons achieved the highest launch velocity and thus left Earth faster than any other spacecraft to date. It is also the first spacecraft launched directly into a solar escape trajectory, which requires an approximate velocity of 16.5 km/s (36,900 mph), plus losses, all to be provided by the launcher. However, it will not be the fastest spacecraft to leave the Solar System. This record is held by Voyager 1, currently travelling at 17.145 km/s (38,400 mph) relative to the Sun. Voyager 1 attained greater hyperbolic excess velocity from Jupiter and Saturn gravitational slingshots than New Horizons. Other spacecraft, such as Helios 1 & 2, can also be measured as the fastest objects, due to their orbital velocity relative to the Sun at perihelion. However, because they remain in solar orbit, their orbital energy relative to the Sun is lower than the five probes, and three other third stages on hyperbolic trajectories, including New Horizons, that achieved solar escape velocity, as the Sun has a much deeper gravitational well than Earth.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_probes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_probes)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on March 04, 2012, 07:10:11 AM
You would be onto something if your bike were silver, but it is not... it is light baby blue :)

I will just assume that you are colorblind after a comment like that.   ;D
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Conrad on March 04, 2012, 07:53:26 AM
As much as I would love to agree with you, the Apollo 10 was white with some black squares....

http://history.nasa.gov/ap10fj/photos/ground/ap10-KSC-69PC-131HR.jpg (http://history.nasa.gov/ap10fj/photos/ground/ap10-KSC-69PC-131HR.jpg)

There you go messing up our fun with the facts again.    ;)


I will just assume that you are colorblind after a comment like that.   ;D

That's what I was thinking too.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: OregonJim on March 04, 2012, 09:35:29 AM
If I may return to my original topic...
I forgot to ask about vibration. My 1986 Concours buzzed the handlebars and footpegs pretty strongly. How does the new version compare?
Thanks again
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: maxtog on March 04, 2012, 10:04:19 AM
I will just assume that you are colorblind after a comment like that.   ;D

Nah, I actually have pretty good vision.  I know blue when I see it.  :P
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: maxtog on March 04, 2012, 10:04:55 AM
If I may return to my original topic...
I forgot to ask about vibration. My 1986 Concours buzzed the handlebars and footpegs pretty strongly. How does the new version compare?

I don't seem to have any vibration at all on my 2011 Concours.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Son of Pappy on March 04, 2012, 10:25:34 AM
No vibes on my '08, I have heard of a few, but the buzzing, for the most part, was loose plastic bits, more of an annoying sound then hand numbing vibes.  A coupla have had the dreaded buz, but I would say the overwhelming majority do not have the buz.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Conrad on March 04, 2012, 10:49:51 AM
No vibes on my '08, I have heard of a few, but the buzzing, for the most part, was loose plastic bits, more of an annoying sound then hand numbing vibes.  A coupla have had the dreaded buz, but I would say the overwhelming majority do not have the buz.

+1
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: ZG on March 04, 2012, 12:08:03 PM
+2...
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: gPink on March 04, 2012, 12:18:34 PM
I had the dreaded buzz once but it was gone when I woke up the next day.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Conrad on March 04, 2012, 12:21:03 PM
I had the dreaded buzz once but it was gone when I woke up the next day.

I'm workin on one now, it ain't dreaded though.    8)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 04, 2012, 04:27:35 PM
I'm workin on one now, it ain't dreaded though.    8)

Me too!!!!!  :P :o
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: ZG on March 04, 2012, 05:03:33 PM
Me three...  ;D
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Conrad on March 05, 2012, 04:32:50 AM
 :chugbeer:
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: W14 on March 05, 2012, 04:49:48 AM
No buzz on my 09
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: stlheadake on March 07, 2012, 08:42:13 PM
Let me offer my PURE UNBIASED OPINION, but the C14 is by far the best ride, most fun everyday bike I've owned.  No buzzing, no final drive issues, no regrets!  I took mine from St. Louis to Alaska and back, and only changed my brake pads!  I was too cheap to do it before I left!  Rode all day about 10 hours a day in the saddle.  I DO recommend Spencer's distance seat mod.  Best 150 bucks I ever spent!
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Mister Tee on March 08, 2012, 02:47:23 PM
Silver with some black.  Maybe I'm on to something....   ;D

Sigh.  That will probably be me in 20 years.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on March 08, 2012, 05:34:33 PM
Sigh.  That will probably be me in 20 years.

Hair or bike?   ;)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Conrad on March 09, 2012, 04:28:54 AM
Sigh.  That will probably be me in 20 years.

Hair or bike?   ;)

You know what they say about grey hair right? Ok, maybe it's what I say.

Grey hair is better than no hair.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 09, 2012, 04:57:22 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Conrad on March 09, 2012, 05:08:40 AM
There there Jim, at least you still have your, um, your, er. What is it that you still have anyways?    ;)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 09, 2012, 05:16:53 AM
Certainly not my memory...or hair on the top of my head.  It must have migrated to other parts of my body that never had hair before.  I don't know where my memory went.  I've looked everywhere and still can't find it.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Conrad on March 09, 2012, 05:25:24 AM
Your memory is hiding in the same place that mine is.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: ZG on March 09, 2012, 04:20:30 PM
Certainly not my memory...or hair on the top of my head.  It must have migrated to other parts of my body that never had hair before.  I don't know where my memory went.  I've looked everywhere and still can't find it.

Just comb the hair from your ears and back up over your head Sparky...  ;)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 09, 2012, 04:24:26 PM
That's good.  That's really good.   :rotflmao:
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: booger on March 09, 2012, 06:00:16 PM
I think 61 is way too old to be riding a motorcycle.

Oh wait, I'll be 60 this year.  Scratch that. ;)

How come you have only owned a dozen bikes at your age?  I am on my 27th.  And I trade yearly now so I can enjoy them all.  I hope I have at least 10 more to go.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: OregonJim on March 11, 2012, 10:16:51 AM
Ha! I do tend to keep them awhile, plus I've had a few bikeless periods (corresponding with marriages.)

So, I've been shopping around and am finding lots of C14s languishing at dealers all around Portland, Or.  Are they not selling well, or is the general economy to blame?
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: W14 on March 11, 2012, 12:42:46 PM
Sounds like a buyer's market for the C-14, putting you in a position to haggle more with the C-14 than with the ST1300 or the BMW. At the same time, make sure you want the C-14, as you will use you shirt if try to sell/trade it shortly after you buy.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: OregonJim on April 14, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
Well, I went and pulled the trigger. Just signed the paperwork for a 2012 C14 (in black). Bike is still in the crate, so I must wait a few days to pick it up. A 20-mile test ride on a demo bike proved to me that 1) the vibration is no problem, 2) the engine is PLENTY strong, and 3) I will surely need a taller windshield (6-foot-3). Can't wait to pick up the bike on Tuesday. Thanks to everyone on this forum for your support and advice. You folks helped cement my decision to go with  a Connie. Now, bring on the accessories!!
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: ZG on April 14, 2012, 11:46:56 PM
Congrats Jim, nice choice on color!  8)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: maxtog on April 15, 2012, 06:14:04 AM
Well, I went and pulled the trigger. Just signed the paperwork for a 2012 C14 (in black). Bike is still in the crate, so I must wait a few days to pick it up.

Congrats!!

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A 20-mile test ride on a demo bike proved to me that 1) the vibration is no problem

Did you think there would be vibration?  It is a high-end, modern, smooth, fuel injected, counter-balanced, inline 4.  It ain't no low-tech V twin!

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2) the engine is PLENTY strong,

It is a 1400 with 10,500 redline and 135+hp to the ground  :)

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and 3) I will surely need a taller windshield (6-foot-3). 

Standing height doesn't completely relate to sitting height.  I am 5'7", but I estimate my sitting height to be that of an average 5'10" person, and the stock windshield is too low for me, also.  It might have been OK had I not used necessary handlebar risers.  Some day I might replace the windshield... I figure I will wait for it to get all scratched up first ;)   One thing is for sure, it is a hell of a lot more protection than my previous bike (ZRX).  Like day and night.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: VirginiaJim on April 15, 2012, 06:22:01 AM
Well, I went and pulled the trigger. Just signed the paperwork for a 2012 C14 (in black).

Congratulations!
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Gumby on April 15, 2012, 07:01:01 AM
Welcome to the DARK side.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: Son of Pappy on April 15, 2012, 07:55:14 PM
Welcome to the DARK side.
You running CAR TIRES?  Oh they're OK on black bikes, speed and cornering abilities are less of an issue ;D

Congrats on the Bike OJ, at least ya got the brand and model correct ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: RideBellChain on April 20, 2012, 06:04:59 PM



Hope you enjoy the other forum as much as I enjoy this one.

I enjoy both forums, too...and I'm a new Concours 14 rider...is there issues/politics between forums?  I figure we should all be able to play nice...we all have great taste in bikes, and I pretty much like everyone that rides!  :)
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I have a 30" inseam, and wear 32" pants so they cover my ankles while I'm riding.  I can uncomfortably flatfoot the bike (I weigh 215). My other bike is a Royal Star Venture (full-dresser) and it weighs 850lbs dry, so with a full tank and 400 lbs of human cargo, it's heavy.  Light once it's rolling, though.  My Connie feels like a lightweight bicycle in comparison, and I love it. I too find it very hard to get back on the cruiser since I've bought my Concours.  And I can't stop daydreaming about riding it.

I went to a dealership and sat on an ST for 20 minutes, then on the Connie for a while, too. (My wife was quite irritated after a while, but comfort is important.)  The ST and the BMW R1200RT seem to have about the same size and mass, both comfortable, but both were more like cruisers in disguise...I knew I loved the looks of the Concours more, and after sitting on all the choices, reading the raving good reviews, I took home a black 2012 model and never looked back.  Probably added $1000 in farkles, but still the $$$ were way less than he BMW or Honda.

You will not be disappointed with the Concours.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: gPink on April 20, 2012, 06:20:44 PM
I enjoy both forums, too...and I'm a new Concours 14 rider...is there issues/politics between forums?  I figure we should all be able to play nice...we all have great taste in bikes, and I pretty much like everyone that rides!  :)
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If you read the post I quoted you might see where I got the feeling the poster would be happier on the st forum.
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: RideBellChain on April 22, 2012, 05:51:01 PM
Ahhh, sorry, thought you were referencing the "other" Concours forum.  When I rode Honda, there was this silly rivalry between to Shadow forums that got really stupid after a while...silly animosity, and people saying they're "traitors" for posting on the other forum...sorry I misunderstood.  I like it here...  :)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: VirginiaJim on April 23, 2012, 04:56:46 AM
Glad to have you!
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: RideBellChain on April 25, 2012, 04:53:01 PM
Glad to have you!

Thanks, and glad to be here!  :)
Title: Re: C14 advice pls
Post by: RideBellChain on April 25, 2012, 04:55:59 PM
Well, I went and pulled the trigger. Just signed the paperwork for a 2012 C14 (in black). Bike is still in the crate, so I must wait a few days to pick it up. A 20-mile test ride on a demo bike proved to me that 1) the vibration is no problem, 2) the engine is PLENTY strong, and 3) I will surely need a taller windshield (6-foot-3). Can't wait to pick up the bike on Tuesday. Thanks to everyone on this forum for your support and advice. You folks helped cement my decision to go with  a Connie. Now, bring on the accessories!!

Congrats and great news!  Glad you got a chance to take a good ride on it, too...

I thought I would want a taller windhshield too, but in fact I never put mine up - when it's down, the wind is "clean" - no buffeting, and as a bonus holds you up and takes pressure off the wrists.  I live in S. Florida, so it's usually a warm wind...

Best of luck with the new bike.  Ride it like you stole it!  :)