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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: jamcou2020 on February 05, 2012, 05:52:54 PM

Title: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: jamcou2020 on February 05, 2012, 05:52:54 PM
Can anyone help me with what these are used for. There is a wire with a boot on it that comes out of the right side of the lower fairings and per the instruction Manuel it say there is a hook up under the back seat. What type of accessories can I use with the connections?
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: DonB on February 05, 2012, 06:23:16 PM
about anything with low amperage.
gps
radar
mp3
radio
led driving lights


not heated gear, battery charger, normal driving lights
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: jamcou2020 on February 05, 2012, 06:29:02 PM
Ok so Im guessing I have to buy a connector of some sort to get the get it to work with a GPS?
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: Smiffer on February 06, 2012, 05:53:57 AM
Forgive me if this is a silly question but which of those two connectors is +? The male one or the female one?
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: So Cal Joe on February 06, 2012, 07:33:55 AM
Ok so Im guessing I have to buy a connector of some sort to get the get it to work with a GPS?
Plug the GPS into the power outlet next to the right headlight adjuster.
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: The Pope on February 06, 2012, 08:51:08 AM
Forgive me if this is a silly question but which of those two connectors is +? The male one or the female one?

I'm not sure, but I think the female connector is the "+"
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: Conrad on February 06, 2012, 09:21:41 AM
Here's some more info on those connections.

http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/accleads (http://www.pbase.com/fredharmon/accleads)
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: lt1 on February 06, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
Forgive me if this is a silly question but which of those two connectors is +? The male one or the female one?
When working with electrics or electronics, it is wise to have and use a multimeter.  They are cheap and easy to learn to use.  It is not "silly" to ask the question, but it might be better to "ask" the multimeter. 

FWIW, if you are looking at powered leads on a vehicle, typically the female lead will be positive and the male lead negative, assuming the vehicle uses a negative ground.  That should make sense.  If not, you might want to study up a bit more before taking on wiring projects.
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: 556ALPHA on February 06, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
As stated a meter is best but the answer and a photo can be found here

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php?topic=26044.0 (http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php?topic=26044.0)
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: B.D.F. on February 06, 2012, 06:27:56 PM
Right side, lower fairings? That sounds like something someone added to the bike and if it is, it is most likely a battery tender connection. There are no electrical connections exposed or available on the right side of the bike as it comes from Kawasaki.

The accessory connectors on a C-14 are located on the top / front / left of the fairing, just under the black cover, and another set is under the tail piece, behind the saddle and under the ECU. The accessory connectors are for the owner to connect anything he / she wants as long as all the accessories do not draw more than 10 amps for '08 and '09's, and 5 amps for 2010 models and later. Both sets of acc. connectors are on the same circuit so the max. capacity is for both sets together (you cannot put a 7 amp load on the front and a 5 amp load on the rear as the total would be 12 amps).

Brian

Can anyone help me with what these are used for. There is a wire with a boot on it that comes out of the right side of the lower fairings and per the instruction Manuel it say there is a hook up under the back seat. What type of accessories can I use with the connections?
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: B.D.F. on February 06, 2012, 06:30:15 PM
The female bullet connector is the positive one. It is done that way because the male sticks out and is not oovered and <could> touch something metal on the bike and short if it were the positive one. The female connector is fully covered with a plastic sleeve and cannot touch anything else.

Female = Positive
Male = Negative 

Brian

Forgive me if this is a silly question but which of those two connectors is +? The male one or the female one?
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: Smiffer on February 06, 2012, 07:46:42 PM
Thanks. Makes sense.
The female bullet connector is the positive one. It is done that way because the male sticks out and is not oovered and <could> touch something metal on the bike and short if it were the positive one. The female connector is fully covered with a plastic sleeve and cannot touch anything else.

Female = Positive
Male = Negative 

Brian
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: jamcou2020 on February 06, 2012, 09:44:17 PM
Right side, lower fairings? That sounds like something someone added to the bike and if it is, it is most likely a battery tender connection. There are no electrical connections exposed or available on the right side of the bike as it comes from Kawasaki.

The accessory connectors on a C-14 are located on the top / front / left of the fairing, just under the black cover, and another set is under the tail piece, behind the saddle and under the ECU. The accessory connectors are for the owner to connect anything he / she wants as long as all the accessories do not draw more than 10 amps for '08 and '09's, and 5 amps for 2010 modles
Thanks brian for that explanation. Ill have to take a pic tomorrow of the leads that im speaking of. My bike is brand new naught it with zero miles on it so this has to be a factory wire.
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: RcrBoy on September 25, 2013, 06:09:29 PM
about anything with low amperage.
gps
radar
mp3
radio
led driving lights


not heated gear, battery charger, normal driving lights
Did not want to start a new thread so I did a search here to find those pesky connectors.
I wanted to hook up my Gerbing heated glove liners....................
If I can't do it here, anyone have a simple "non-splice" hook up they've used, other than the battery?

Thanks!

-Mark-
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: gPink on September 25, 2013, 06:19:14 PM
Add an accessory fuse box such as:
http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/main.html (http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/main.html)
http://www.fuzeblocks.com/index.php (http://www.fuzeblocks.com/index.php)
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: RcrBoy on September 25, 2013, 07:39:13 PM
I Posted too soon...   ::)

I checked the EWD and the only things on that circuit are the accy plug socket on the fairing and the front/rear accy connectors.

It's 14Ga wiring and there is nothing preventing me from changing that 5amp fuse out for the 20amp needed for the Girbing glove liners, since that will be the only thing on that circuit.

I can then hard wire the Gerbing harness to the front accy connectors.

Should I decide to run anything like a GPS, from the socket port, I can run a 5amp inline fuse on the Battery + line of the GPS harness male plug.

[ Unlikely these two will be on at the same time]


Cheers,
Mark  8)
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: ZG on September 25, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
Did not want to start a new thread so I did a search here to find those pesky connectors.
I wanted to hook up my Gerbing heated glove liners....................
If I can't do it here, anyone have a simple "non-splice" hook up they've used, other than the battery?

Thanks!

-Mark-


http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10985.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10985.0)  :thumbs:

Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: Conrad on September 26, 2013, 04:42:44 AM
I Posted too soon...   ::)

I checked the EWD and the only things on that circuit are the accy plug socket on the fairing and the front/rear accy connectors.

It's 14Ga wiring and there is nothing preventing me from changing that 5amp fuse out for the 20amp needed for the Girbing glove liners, since that will be the only thing on that circuit.

I can then hard wire the Gerbing harness to the front accy connectors.

Should I decide to run anything like a GPS, from the socket port, I can run a 5amp inline fuse on the Battery + line of the GPS harness male plug.

[ Unlikely these two will be on at the same time]


Cheers,
Mark  8)

EWD?   ???
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 26, 2013, 04:43:38 AM
Electrical Wiring Diagram...I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: Conrad on September 26, 2013, 04:45:16 AM
Electrical Wiring Diagram...I'm thinking.

Ah, I'm still waking up and working on my first cup-o-coffee.

BTW, I wouldn't trust that wiring fused at 20 amps. The first gen bikes were fused at 10 amps from the factory, 5 for the second gen bikes.
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 26, 2013, 04:56:53 AM
There might have been a reason for that  ::)
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: clogan on September 26, 2013, 08:29:05 AM
Did not want to start a new thread so I did a search here to find those pesky connectors.
I wanted to hook up my Gerbing heated glove liners....................
If I can't do it here, anyone have a simple "non-splice" hook up they've used, other than the battery?

Thanks!

-Mark-

Be sure to use a circuit having its own fuse, whether in-line, or through a fuse block.
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: RcrBoy on September 26, 2013, 11:20:09 AM
UPDATE

After some more fact checking. Turns out that the 20amp fused harness for the Gerbing adaptor is rated as such if you're running ALL the heated gear at the same time.  :o

Amperage draw for the Gerbing gear is: Gloves) pair 2.2a, Socks) pair 2.2a, Jacket) each 6.9a, Pants) each 4.0a, Vest) each 4.2a

So for the rider it's 19.5 amps if you're running it all. Thus the 20 amp fuse rating for the harness. Passenger would require a separate 20 fused circuit for thier own gear.

Since I'm only running the heated glove liners once in a while, It's California  ::) , rated at 2.2amp a pair, I'm just going to leave the 5amp fuse alone and wire the harness to the front accessory connector. 

Cheers,
Mark  8)
Title: Re: Electric Accessory Connectors??
Post by: RcrBoy on September 26, 2013, 11:29:07 AM

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10985.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=10985.0)  :thumbs:

Oh my......................

That is a sweet set up!

A bit much for my needs. I did however drool over the Ohlins bits     ;D