Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: marku8a on January 21, 2012, 09:49:24 PM
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I am considering going with the Area P full exhaust system. Looking at the maintenance manual, it says that the radiator needs to be removed. I don't really want to break into the coolant system. Is it possible to remove and replace the exhaust without removing the radiator?
Mark
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Yes. I left the uppers connected, bottom swings enough to get things done. It really is a quick job. I may remove mine just to touch up the High temp header paint I did some 30000 miles ago.
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Yes. I left the uppers connected, bottom swings enough to get things done. It really is a quick job. I may remove mine just to touch up the High temp header paint I did some 30000 miles ago.
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You want to take the lower radiator mount off and pull the radiator a bit forward at times, but it can be done without radiator removal. I hope you have good, thin tools for the nuts though... 1/4 drive stuff (extensions and/or wobbles), and/or good flex-head ratcheting box ends are nice too. :)
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I took the upper and lower radiator bolts out and used a bungee coed around the front forks to hold the radiator forward, out of the way.
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Replace the header nuts with Fuji-locks while you're at it.
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Replace the header nuts with Fuji-locks while you're at it.
I don't want to hijack your thread but I'm going to have the 15000 miles service done soon and I would like to know what size Fuji nuts for the header bolts so I can have them replaced at that time.
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Joe, I don't remember if they are 6 or 8mm. If nobody chimes in I'll check later.
http://www.boltmotorcyclehardware.com/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=fuji+lock&x=9&y=6 (http://www.boltmotorcyclehardware.com/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=fuji+lock&x=9&y=6)
Just checked-8x1.25mm
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If you don't remove the radiator, be very careful in working around it. I think it is made of aluminum foil and can be damaged just by looking at it wrong.
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Thanks for tips guys. I did learn about the Fuji-locks in another thread. I think I have almost every tool under the sun. I do have a good selection of sockets, ratchet extensions, universal swivel, etc. I think I will order my system tomorrow.
Thanks again!
Mark
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And don't forget to change the header gaskets, they are only a one time use.
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And don't forget to change the header gaskets, they are only a one time use.
Excellent point! Thanks for the reminder!!
Mark
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Joe, I don't remember if they are 6 or 8mm. If nobody chimes in I'll check later.
http://www.boltmotorcyclehardware.com/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=fuji+lock&x=9&y=6 (http://www.boltmotorcyclehardware.com/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=fuji+lock&x=9&y=6)
Just checked-8x1.25mm
Thank you, I'll get some and have the dealer put them on when I have my 15,000 mile service done.
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Just curious, what is so special about Fuji nuts and what is wrong with the factory nuts that are on there?
And don't forget to change the header gaskets, they are only a one time use.
Are these the gaskets to the engine block? I just bought a set of ZX-14 pipes and muffler for my C-14, same header gasket?
Thanks, Matt
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Just curious, what is so special about Fuji nuts and what is wrong with the factory nuts that are on there?
Are these the gaskets to the engine block? I just bought a set of ZX-14 pipes and muffler for my C-14, same header gasket?
Thanks, Matt
Yes, the ZX-14 uses the same header gaskets as the C14 and those are the ones you'll want to replace when you put the new system on.
The Fuji lock nuts have some steel tabs in them that prevent the nuts from backing off, which the stock ones are known to do.
(http://img.jpcycles.com/product/ZZ91133_A.jpg)
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Yes, the ZX-14 uses the same header gaskets as the C14 and those are the ones you'll want to replace when you put the new system on.
The Fuji lock nuts have some steel tabs in them that prevent the nuts from backing off, which the stock ones are known to do.
(http://img.jpcycles.com/product/ZZ91133_A.jpg)
Is it really worth the $54 dollars or would a little locktite on the threads be ok?
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What 54 dollars?
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Is it really worth the $54 dollars or would a little locktite on the threads be ok?
You only need 8 of them... Most places sell them in a pack of 10 for $9-$16...
Here is an example for $8.76 + $7.95 shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Nut-Fuji-Lock-Head138mm/dp/B00230OPWO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1QMOGWERWEUPX&s=generic&qid=1327369959&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Nut-Fuji-Lock-Head138mm/dp/B00230OPWO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1QMOGWERWEUPX&s=generic&qid=1327369959&sr=1-1)
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You only need 8 of them... Most places sell them in a pack of 10 for $9-$16...
Here is an example for $8.76 + $7.95 shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Nut-Fuji-Lock-Head138mm/dp/B00230OPWO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1QMOGWERWEUPX&s=generic&qid=1327369959&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Nut-Fuji-Lock-Head138mm/dp/B00230OPWO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1QMOGWERWEUPX&s=generic&qid=1327369959&sr=1-1)
My bad they come qty 10 to a pack... I was wondering why the heck there were so expensive... lol
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I wouldn't buy them at $54 either LOL :chugbeer:
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Order has been placed so the new muzzy will be put on right the first time... Only thing left to get before the Muzzy arrives is the exhaust gaskets...
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Are you going to run a PCv?
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You only need 8 of them... Most places sell them in a pack of 10 for $9-$16...
Here is an example for $8.76 + $7.95 shipping:
http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Nut-Fuji-Lock-Head138mm/dp/B00230OPWO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1QMOGWERWEUPX&s=generic&qid=1327369959&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Nut-Fuji-Lock-Head138mm/dp/B00230OPWO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A1QMOGWERWEUPX&s=generic&qid=1327369959&sr=1-1)
Same product, only $9.20 shipped
http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-FUJILOCK-NUT-30-0308/dp/B000WK2ZZG/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_1 (http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-FUJILOCK-NUT-30-0308/dp/B000WK2ZZG/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_1)
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Are you going to run a PCv?
gPink – I am not sure if your question is for me, the Original Poster. Yes I installed a PCv when I removed the flys. The most noticeable difference the PC made was the transition from throttle closed the just cracking it open. I made the other recommended fixes (adjust the cables, Throttle Tamer). Those changes made a big difference. With the PC the bike behaves like you would expect it to in the first place. I now can crack open the throttle while leaned over in a fast turn with confidence that I am not going to get a big unexpected whack of power.
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gPink – I am not sure if your question is for me, the Original Poster. Yes I installed a PCv when I removed the flys. The most noticeable difference the PC made was the transition from throttle closed the just cracking it open. I made the other recommended fixes (adjust the cables, Throttle Tamer). Those changes made a big difference. With the PC the bike behaves like you would expect it to in the first place. I now can crack open the throttle while leaned over in a fast turn with confidence that I am not going to get a big unexpected whack of power.
If the question was for me then yes I alredy run a PCV and will be adding on autotune when Muzzy goes on this week... I will be selling my two brothers slip on in case anyone is interested... Love the sound of the Two Brothers...