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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: bubfryder on May 18, 2011, 11:45:17 AM

Title: double risers?
Post by: bubfryder on May 18, 2011, 11:45:17 AM
I know, sounds kind of foolish.. but after being diagnosed w/ a herniated disc in my neck coupled with a torn rotator cuff, I'm needing to get alot more upright.  I have Murph's risers on there already.. any ideas? 
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: ZedHed on May 18, 2011, 11:47:38 AM
Why not try some "ape-hangers?" 

Just joking as I have trouble with my neck vertebrae too.
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: Bagger on May 18, 2011, 01:14:05 PM
Hey, Bub ...

I have issues with several body parts that I had to solve with some changes to the ergos on the C14.

I tried several risers and read the forum, but eventurally ..... I had some 1" x 4" aluminum blocks made to fit over MCLs risers (along with Phil's wedges).  This moved the bars up about 2.75" and back maybe another 2 or so inches.  Phil's wedges added some kant to the thing as well.

I did a mock up with wood to see if it would work, then had a machinist do the work.  I'm very happy with the set up.  All stock lines are tight, but not stretched out at full lock.  I sit pretty much up right, now.  Not as much as the Wing, but close.  Before, I couldn't ride more than an hour without pain in my neck, shoulders, back and elbows.  This is all gone now.  I can now ride all day.  Of course there are other farkles that have helped as well .... Grip Puppies, the riser group, Cee Bailey's domed screen, C14 back rest and mods to the saddle.

We're all differnt and require different set ups to make us comfortable.  I have friends who can ride a ZX14 all day in stock form.  I can only do that for 50 miles.
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: Wild_Bill on May 18, 2011, 03:04:07 PM
I made my own risers
they give me a 2" rise with a 2 1/2" pullback

Bill
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: tomkioti on May 18, 2011, 03:21:19 PM
I made my own risers
they give me a 2" rise with a 2 1/2" pullback

Bill

Geez! Do you lean back when you ride? They look good though.  I put 2" blocks on and that brought me up where my neck doesn't hurt so much. Of coarse, I'm only 5-9
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: philipintexas on May 18, 2011, 03:51:21 PM
Here's my solution. 4" combined up/back in 6 degree increments.
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/philipintexas/4%20Inch%20Bar%20Extenders%20March%202010/4inchextenders2.jpg)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/philipintexas/4%20Inch%20Bar%20Extenders%20March%202010/4inchextenders.jpg)
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: just gone on May 18, 2011, 04:36:36 PM
Here's my solution. 4" combined up/back in 6 degree increments.

So, the 6 degree increments are set by indexed interlocking teeth (60?) milled into the Kawi' original risers and your extensions?
..or what?

 Are you still able to get a tank bag in there?

They look pretty nice.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: philipintexas on May 18, 2011, 05:01:40 PM
No alterations to the stock parts, but you have the idea. (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/philipintexas/Bar%20Risers%2018%20Jul%202009/PICT4570.jpg)
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: ZedHed on May 18, 2011, 05:25:36 PM
No alterations to the stock parts, but you have the idea. (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/philipintexas/Bar%20Risers%2018%20Jul%202009/PICT4570.jpg)

Hey Phil -- you gonna sell these?
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: Pokey on May 18, 2011, 05:47:17 PM
Holy Monkey!!!!!! :yikes:
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: B.D.F. on May 18, 2011, 06:53:16 PM
Just as an aside, the world knows that device as a Hirth coupling. Most people know it as "one of them round thingys with the fine teeth that rotates but only so far and until the bolt is tightened'.

Brian


No alterations to the stock parts, but you have the idea. (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc213/philipintexas/Bar%20Risers%2018%20Jul%202009/PICT4570.jpg)
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: ZG on May 18, 2011, 07:35:31 PM
Why not try some "ape-hangers?" 


(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/apehanger.jpg)
 
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: mikeboileau on May 18, 2011, 07:38:21 PM
Hey Phil -- you gonna sell these?

Wow, that looks cool!
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: Rowlander on May 18, 2011, 09:13:10 PM
That is a damn good idea. I could really use a set of those. Maybe not quite as long, 1/2 to 3/4 or so.
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: mikeboileau on May 18, 2011, 09:14:32 PM
That is a damn good idea. I could really use a set of those. Maybe not quite as long, 1/2 to 3/4 or so.

A shorter option might be the ticket.......
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: att2008vn on May 18, 2011, 10:49:51 PM
Hi,

I m a big fan of Phil-Texas, perfect customer support, wonderful products to help Connie community.

For the Bar Extender in his pictures, you can ask him to have 2", 3" or 4" version.  And pls remember to spread locktite glue on all the screws.

For me, at 5'8, i have all : Bar Riser, Phils' Wedges and Bar Extender and those are really helpful.

at
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: Rowlander on May 18, 2011, 10:53:48 PM
What kind of price are we looking at, and are there any changes needed to be made for cables, etc.?
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: att2008vn on May 18, 2011, 11:18:53 PM
You can check it with Phil directly.  The Wedges took him quiet awhile to make.  I had to extend both Clutch & Brake Lines, Phil also help me on getting this from Galfer, pls be noted that Connie '10 onward is different than '09.

at
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: Wild_Bill on May 19, 2011, 12:40:12 AM
Geez! Do you lean back when you ride? They look good though.  I put 2" blocks on and that brought me up where my neck doesn't hurt so much. Of coarse, I'm only 5-9
I'm about 5' 8"
I broke my left elbow about 24 years ago and have not been able to straighten the arm out since. This causes me to lean further foward and use my arm muscles instead of the bone structure to support my weight.

With these I can sit more upright and take the weight off my arms, for a much more comfortable ride.

Bill
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: just gone on May 19, 2011, 12:17:43 PM
Hey Phil -- you gonna sell these?

An excellent question!


Hi,

I m a big fan of Phil-Texas, perfect customer support, wonderful products to help Connie community.

For the Bar Extender in his pictures, you can ask him to have 2", 3" or 4" version.  And pls remember to spread locktite glue on all the screws.

For me, at 5'8, i have all : Bar Riser, Phils' Wedges and Bar Extender and those are really helpful.

at

So is that the answer?

I have a feeling that the bar extender is sort of like the wedges in that it is a time consuming process and Phil is sort of not so keen on making
very many except maybe for a few close friends (quite understandable, as I would rather ride than machine fabricate myself) ). Am I right Phil?

I think I could make the extenders myself if I didn't have to make the Hirth coupling (thanks B.D.F.) is there a source or did you machine those yourself?

The rounded groove with the color matching paint is a nice touch. :thumbs:
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: philipintexas on May 19, 2011, 04:32:09 PM
I had to Google "Hirth coupling", I didn't even know such a thing existed! It was an idea I came up with, thinking of poker chips, and how their edges engage, and I made my own. VERY time consuming but can be done using a rotary table and milling machine. The teeth need to be smaller to get less than 6 degree increments, but life is too short to make that many cuts. It take the same amount of time to make 2" as it does 4" and they take me 4 days to make a set so there isn't much of a market. Heli-bars has come out with something that may do the same thing and be more adjustable. 
Title: Re: double risers?
Post by: LindsayGT on May 19, 2011, 05:23:54 PM
http://www.helibars.com/photo-gallery/coming-soon-multi-adjustable-helibars-handlebars-concours14 (http://www.helibars.com/photo-gallery/coming-soon-multi-adjustable-helibars-handlebars-concours14)

Wow, they look the part! Pity about the $695 price tag.

I think I will have to be satisfied with my LSL bars that I am impatiently waiting to be able to fit.