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Title: Earplugs that work
Post by: SVonhof on September 30, 2011, 06:07:37 PM
There was another post in here that sorta got off topic when talking about earplugs, so I figured I would start a new post about them.

I have always had a hard time getting the foam plugs to seal in my ear canal and just didn't wear earplugs for years when riding unless it was going to be multiple hours of riding. I finally decided to protect my hearing and got these made about 1 1/2 years ago:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/IMAG0516.jpg)
Product page: https://www.westone.com/hearing-protection-products/4rt (https://www.westone.com/hearing-protection-products/4rt)

I went with the more expensive option of silicone instead of vinyl as it stays soft for years and years where the vinyl starts to harden.

These are a great option for most people as they are super low profile and when in your ear, you do not have anything sticking out (hence the little tabs to pull them out). They also allow you to still hear surrounding traffic, sirens or the bike. It takes the edge off the bad sound though.

I went to the Westone site and looked for a local site to have the molds made, made an appointment and had them made and about 3 weeks later, went and picked them up. One of the best $230 I have spent, since I have been riding since 1996 and this is the first time I have actually had earplugs that I actually wear.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: maxtog on September 30, 2011, 07:51:04 PM
SV- thanks for the info.  I probably should have gone that route.  Instead, I cheaped out and bought Radians do-it-yourself stuff.  What a disaster.  It was completely defective.   It was supposed to harden in 10 min.  60 min later, it was still goo in both my ears.  It took days to get it all out.  I BLASTED the company that sold it to me on Amazon and they sent a replacement kit.  It is still sitting on my desk, I haven't gotten the nerve to try it again.  I was trying to make custom molded earphones.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: SVonhof on September 30, 2011, 08:09:43 PM
I bought a set just like yours recently from Bass Pro Shop (sold in the gun department) as I wanted to get my blutooth (for the car) to have a custom earpiece. That didn't work either. It did harden, but since I could not get the blutooth earpiece centered, it had one area with none of the earplug material.

A friend of mine used a kit from: http://www.earplugco.com/ (http://www.earplugco.com/) to get headphones in custom made (at home) earplugs and he was happy with it.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: bbhzx12 on September 30, 2011, 08:50:11 PM
I had custom plugs made for about $60 at Moto-Market off 199 in Ma.
The company that came in to do them does a lot of shooting sports events, made them while I waited and they work great.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: accbiker on October 01, 2011, 06:15:45 AM
Earfuze earplugs with earbuds are great. Perform as advertised.

www.earfuze.com (http://www.earfuze.com)

-David
Athens, Ga
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: stevewfl on October 01, 2011, 08:31:17 AM
I had custom plugs made for about $60 at Moto-Market off 199 in Ma.
The company that came in to do them does a lot of shooting sports events, made them while I waited and they work great.

+1

I had a set made custom molded to my ears and they are incredible! They've been used heavily on the street, track, and shooting ranges.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: SVonhof on October 01, 2011, 10:02:35 AM
I had custom plugs made for about $60 at Moto-Market off 199 in Ma.
The company that came in to do them does a lot of shooting sports events, made them while I waited and they work great.
I know there are earplug companies that go to the motorcycle races and do them on the spot as well. I would have gone that route if there were any of the big races coming around, but the timing was off. Also, I liked the ones that I got for the reasons I mentioned as well. It seems as if the ones made at the tracks (and maybe the ones you guys are talking about made at Moto-Market) would filter out more sound than a motorcyclist would want. I don't know if that is true, but that was one of the perceptions I had that drew me to the ones I got.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: danl on October 01, 2011, 01:12:49 PM
I use some silicone swimming ear plugs I got at Wally world, they are much easier to get in and out than the foam kind and block out the wind noise pretty effectively.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 01, 2011, 05:28:08 PM
SV- thanks for the info.  I probably should have gone that route.  Instead, I cheaped out and bought Radians do-it-yourself stuff.  What a disaster.  It was completely defective.   It was supposed to harden in 10 min.  60 min later, it was still goo in both my ears.  It took days to get it all out.  I BLASTED the company that sold it to me on Amazon and they sent a replacement kit.  It is still sitting on my desk, I haven't gotten the nerve to try it again.  I was trying to make custom molded earphones.


I had great luck with the Radians kit that I bought off of Amazon.  I actually stuck some Skull Candy ear buds in my ears before putting the putty in and they worked great.  It was a great "poor mans" custom made headphone setup.  $25 for the whole setup, and I heard nearly zero wind noise and I could run my ipod at very low volume levels and still hear traffic around me.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: CB Schmaltz on October 01, 2011, 06:29:38 PM
on a long ride
IMHO
any plug is better than no plug
there are some great $$$ ones out there
fact
plugs cut down on fatige (sp?)
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: SVonhof on October 01, 2011, 06:51:45 PM
on a long ride
IMHO
any plug is better than no plug
there are some great $$$ ones out there
fact
plugs cut down on fatige (sp?)

Fatigue. And yes, you are correct that it cuts down on it especially on long rides.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: Barry on October 01, 2011, 08:50:23 PM
Anyone have problems with earplugs actually hurting your ears?  I have Howard Leight 30db reduction plugs.  Foamies.  They hurt my ears after about an hour.

I'm very curious to see if silicone custom made units are any better.

Barry
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: Gearhead82 on October 01, 2011, 09:19:11 PM
I have odd, small, s-shaped ear canals and no ear plug that I've ever tried will stay in my ear.  I guess I'll need to try get some custom ones made at some point.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: TimmyG on October 02, 2011, 05:35:05 AM
The foam ones used to hurt, but we have to wear them at work, after 2 or 3 days you hardly know you have them in
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 02, 2011, 06:08:39 AM
There's a place in Fredericksburg that makes the ones Scott was referring to.  I think I'll have some made up this winter.  I use the reusable foam and what's great with them is that I can use em to harvest for my ear wax collection.  Conversely, they do hurt me after a day of riding and they muffle out the music from my SMH10.  I really need to get them customized to my ear.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 02, 2011, 06:39:54 AM
For those of you thinking about getting custom plug made you can also try these.  They are made by Surefire (EP3), and I picked them up for $10 at Clothing Sales.  The are very good for the price.  For long trips I will use them since they are comfortable and block alot of the wind noise and allow me to hear my Sena.  They could be worth a shot before you drop $100+ on custom plugs.  There are different sizes so you might check to see what works best.  They also make the EP6 that is made for motorsports.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=surefire+ear+plug&hl=en&rlz=1C1SNNT_enUS342US342&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1366&bih=677&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=18060766743406269423&sa=X&ei=zlqITumNFcHcgQew05X6Cg&ved=0CIABEPMCMAU (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=surefire+ear+plug&hl=en&rlz=1C1SNNT_enUS342US342&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1366&bih=677&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=18060766743406269423&sa=X&ei=zlqITumNFcHcgQew05X6Cg&ved=0CIABEPMCMAU)

Here is the link to Surefire's line of earpro
http://www.surefire.com/EarProProducts (http://www.surefire.com/EarProProducts)
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: SVonhof on October 02, 2011, 10:13:01 AM
Jeremy, funny, I clicked on that first link and a map comes up showing where Surefire is located and it's about a mile from where I used to live. I am now an hour away from them.

As for the custom earplugs hurting, I have no problem with that even on long riding days.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: RBX QB on October 02, 2011, 01:24:08 PM
I ended up with these... http://www.hearos.com/products/rock-n-roll (http://www.hearos.com/products/rock-n-roll).

They work pretty well... no pain, cuts wind noise without losing too much ambient noise... They clean really easy.

I know they aren't as good as some of the custom options listed in this post, but for $5, they work pretty damn good. About 10000 miles with mine so far.

And now for the body fluid(?) comment... It's REALLY easy to wipe wax off of them!
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: maxtog on October 02, 2011, 01:52:29 PM
Anyone have problems with earplugs actually hurting your ears? 

Of course, that is why we are mostly talking about custom earplugs...
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: jjsC6 on October 02, 2011, 02:03:05 PM
Yesterday and today was my first time riding with these....
http://www.earplugstore.com/silnatrubear.html (http://www.earplugstore.com/silnatrubear.html)

I did 140 miles yesterday and 310 today.  Keep in mind that I have the low 2008 windshield so I get a lot of turbulence.   I find these as quiet as any I have worn, maybe even a little quieter.  The real beauty is that they are the first ear plug I've had that I can't even tell it's in my ear.   I bought the two pack that comes with both average and smaller size.  The average size fits me best.  Not sure what that means as I have no idea if my ears are bigger than average or average or not.  I started measuring things and got depressed when I found out I wasn't bigger than average in other areas. :o
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on October 02, 2011, 03:01:23 PM
he average size fits me best.  Not sure what that means as I have no idea if my ears are bigger than average or average or not.  I started measuring things and got depressed when I found out I wasn't bigger than average in other areas. :o

Then you took your Z06 for a ride and all was well again.  ;)
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: stevewfl on October 02, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
Custom plugs FTW. Ear docs make them for about $100 around here, catch vendors at bike night and they can be had for 50-60 boners.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: McJunkie on October 02, 2011, 10:42:04 PM
The custom ones my audiologist ordered from Westone were $80. Well worth having a professional do it.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: stevewfl on October 02, 2011, 10:48:57 PM
The custom ones my audiologist ordered from Westone were $80. Well worth having a professional do it.

+1
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: jjsC6 on October 03, 2011, 07:27:58 AM
Then you took your Z06 for a ride and all was well again.  ;)

It works like a champ every time  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: PH14 on October 03, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
As far as foam plugs go, Hearos have worked the best for me. I used a different type Thursday on a 760 mile ride and i got severe pain. I took them out as swapped them for the blue Hearos earplugs and despite being bigger, my ears felt much better. I just rode home yesterday doing a the same mileage and used the Hearos and felt okay, not great, I still get pain, but they don't aggravate the ears as much as some.

This is why I am getting custom plugs. There comes a point with the foam plugs for me that I just cannot use them, I am too sore. I have an appointment to get the impressions done this afternoon.

You can do impressions yourself, but for the $10 an audiologist charges for the impressions, it is money well spent to have a professional do it. Others may charge more but I would still rather have a professional do the impressions rather than a guy a motorcycle show. There are things that can go wrong.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: PH14 on October 03, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
Okay, I just got back from the audiologist. The guy in reception said he got in trouble quoting me $10 for each impression. The price went up last month to $20 but they said they would honor the $10 price. I then went in to see the doctor. She was under the impression (No pun intended.) that I was taking the impression home and was buying the ear plugs elsewhere. I said no, I was buying the ear plugs from her. She then said the price of the impressions were included in the price of the ear plugs from Westone. I ordered the 4rt and another pair made for sleeping and general use. They were $90 per pair. I thought that was a steal. I wear ear plugs all the time, for riding and on the plane when I fly, which is usually a couple of time a week. I also wear then a lot for sleeping when I travel. So for $180 I got both sets of ear plugs and had them done professionally. Quite frankly, I would be wary of someone who is not a professional doing impressions of my ears.

The doctor said I had small ear canals and that was the reason I was having issues. She assured me the custom ones would feel much better.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: stevewfl on October 03, 2011, 02:24:15 PM
$90 a pair is great. I paid $100 for mine from the ear saw-bones.

You'll love them. I recently went on a ride that was 1105 miles on the first day, had them in the whole time.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: maxtog on October 03, 2011, 03:36:36 PM
SV- thanks for the info.  I probably should have gone that route.  Instead, I cheaped out and bought Radians do-it-yourself stuff.  What a disaster.  It was completely defective.   It was supposed to harden in 10 min.  60 min later, it was still goo in both my ears.  It took days to get it all out.  I BLASTED the company that sold it to me on Amazon and they sent a replacement kit.  It is still sitting on my desk, I haven't gotten the nerve to try it again.  I was trying to make custom molded earphones.

I finally got around to trying the replacement package that was sent to me.  Lo and behold, it worked like a charm!  I don't know why the first box was defective, I performed the EXACT same procedure as the first time, but with totally different results.  After 10 minutes, they started hardening, just like the instructions say.  I left them in for 30 min anyway (was listening to music while vacuuming.  They hold the earphones in much better than without the custom mold.  It also blocks more outside noise.  I won't know about how they work under a helmet or for a long time until later.  I did wear them about 1.5 hours last night and they seem OK.

Modified my Amazon review accordingly.  Now that the product works, not bad for $12!

Picture below:
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: stevewfl on October 04, 2011, 01:28:29 PM
^^^^nice!
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on October 06, 2011, 04:28:52 PM
I finally got around to trying the replacement package that was sent to me.  Lo and behold, it worked like a charm!  I don't know why the first box was defective, I performed the EXACT same procedure as the first time, but with totally different results.  After 10 minutes, they started hardening, just like the instructions say.  I left them in for 30 min anyway (was listening to music while vacuuming.  They hold the earphones in much better than without the custom mold.  It also blocks more outside noise.  I won't know about how they work under a helmet or for a long time until later.  I did wear them about 1.5 hours last night and they seem OK.

Modified my Amazon review accordingly.  Now that the product works, not bad for $12!

Picture below:
I was surprised to hear the Radian kits you got were crap, mine worked perfectly...must have been old material.
I posted those kitsup about a year ago, when I bought 4 Kits for like $9 each I think, figuring I might botch one learning how to make them work with moulding in some of my old phones for my music...actually they worked perfect first try, and I've made a couple sets using different phones I had that didn't really fit my ears well with the supplied sized adapters.

here's a little hint;
remove the adapters completly, cut a piece of a stir stick straw about a half inch long, and place it in a position against the speaker end of the phone before moulding the material around it in a "ball", mould the silicone in a tapering tube, completely covering the straw, and sealing it in. Shove them into the ear, and follow the instructions for moulding the rest to seal and fill the ear cup. When they setup, remove them, and trim the end off the moulded tip to expose the sippy straw piece, and use a toothpick slide between the straw and the moulded pice to 'loosen the grip on the straw (you can actually lube the straw sparingly before moulding it in if you want),and make sure the silicone is fully setup before pulling the straw from the mould,
VOILA totally moulded hollow ear canal speakers.....
for the money you simply cannot go wrong, hell, old cheapo headphones and the mould kit...$10 custom plugs.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: CB Schmaltz on October 07, 2011, 11:07:49 AM
WOW very cool 8)
as soon as I get back home from maui  :)
I am make n some up for me  n my girl
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: landofahhs on November 05, 2011, 08:49:52 PM
Earfuze earplugs with earbuds are great. Perform as advertised.

www.earfuze.com (http://www.earfuze.com)

-David
Athens, Ga

I agree with ACC the earfuze plugs are great...easy to mold and will fit like a glove no hassles.  I also like the fact that earfuze gives you an extra container of 'putty' to try before making your final pair of custom plugs. (The extra container comes with the more expensive kit but is well worth it as a prep for the final plugs so you get your molding technique down) 

I want to warn anyone who chooses to try the earfuze system about the crumby ear buds or earphones Earfuse includes with their kits...they are by far the most tinny and poor responding earphones I've ever heard.  Bass response is totally nonexistant.  Unfortunately,  those crumby earphones come with all the kits Earfuze sells...I didn't see any options to get any of their kits without those lousy earphones.

I strongly suggest to anyone purchasing the Earfuse earplug system to spend some extra cash and get a good set of earphones such as some top notch Sony earphones.  When you combine the earfuze molded plug with the Sony earphones you'll have some earplug/earphone with great bass and a full sound spectrum response...Believe me those Earfuse earphones aren't worth beans.  If you doubt my review of the Earfuse earphones PLEASE try them and compare them to your favorite earphones with some good music BEFORE you mold them into the ear putty permanently.  The Earfuse ear plug system is worthy of much better earphones than the ones they supply...you won't regret it.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: C1xRider on November 06, 2011, 10:40:28 AM
Wow, with all the great info on custom plugs, I will have to try them.  I wear ear plugs all the time, between motorcycles and snowmobiles.  I even sleep with them in, when on road trips in noisy motels.

I bought a box of the 32dB NRR (37dB SNR) foam plugs a year or two ago, and found that by turning them around and installing them backwards, I can wear them all day without discomfort.  They don't need to go in very far, and the skinny part lays in the gap below the ear lobe.

Still, I've been meaning to get some ear buds made up to wear inside my helmet, and with the great info posted here, sounds like it should be very easy to do.  Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: riverbound51 on November 06, 2011, 01:16:56 PM
I agree with ACC the earfuze plugs are great...easy to mold and will fit like a glove no hassles.  I also like the fact that earfuze gives you an extra container of 'putty' to try before making your final pair of custom plugs. (The extra container comes with the more expensive kit but is well worth it as a prep for the final plugs so you get your molding technique down) 

I want to warn anyone who chooses to try the earfuze system about the crumby ear buds or earphones Earfuse includes with their kits...they are by far the most tinny and poor responding earphones I've ever heard.  Bass response is totally nonexistant.  Unfortunately,  those crumby earphones come with all the kits Earfuze sells...I didn't see any options to get any of their kits without those lousy earphones.

I strongly suggest to anyone purchasing the Earfuse earplug system to spend some extra cash and get a good set of earphones such as some top notch Sony earphones.  When you combine the earfuze molded plug with the Sony earphones you'll have some earplug/earphone with great bass and a full sound spectrum response...Believe me those Earfuse earphones aren't worth beans.  If you doubt my review of the Earfuse earphones PLEASE try them and compare them to your favorite earphones with some good music BEFORE you mold them into the ear putty permanently.  The Earfuse ear plug system is worthy of much better earphones than the ones they supply...you won't regret it.


You are right on the money there.  The molds are comfortable and work well, but the sound quality of the provided earphones were the worst I have ever heard.  I am going to buy the kit again and provide my own ear buds.  Should work out great that way. 
Title: Radians Earplugs that work
Post by: CB Schmaltz on January 14, 2012, 05:35:11 PM
ok got everything on the table
starting project now
will report back
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: PH14 on January 14, 2012, 06:56:38 PM
Let me update my experience. I got two sets made by Westone a few months back. I got a pair for sleeping and one for wearing while riding, the 4RTs.  I was not happy with the ones I had made, the seal kept breaking and they didn't block as much noise as I expected. I had three months during which to get them remade. My problem was made worse by the fact I have very small ear canals.

I went back and we made new impressions. In reading, I learned that the recommendation for hearing protection ear molds, was to have the impression made with the open mouth bite block method. Basically you have your mouth wide open and they give you a bite block to put between your teeth in order to keep your mouth open properly.

My original impressions were made with the closed mouth, chewing method. I was told to chew a few times and move my jaw a bit to help make them more comfortable.

My ear doctor didn't have bite blocks but we did it without them, I just held my mouth open wide and held it there.  The difference was very noticeable. The new ear molds are comfortable but seal very well and block more sound. They are fantastic. I also got another full shell pair made on my second trip and they work very nicely although I don't use them often.

The impression is the most important part of the process. I highly recommend going to an ear doctor. If they don't work right, they will do it over for you. They will also better be able to make the impression without harming your ear. Yes it can happen.

Mine only cost $90 per pair, including the impressions. She also put me in a sound booth to check to be sure I was getting good attenuation of sound. If I have any comfort issues, I can go back and she will file down any spots that cause problems or pain or do what it takes to get it right.

For $90, it was money well spent. I wear the sleeping ear plugs often, on planes, and I fly on average once a week, and while sleeping. They are extremely comfortable, no more pain. I can wear them all day with no discomfort.



Title: Radian Earplugs that work, but not pretty
Post by: CB Schmaltz on January 14, 2012, 09:00:13 PM
OK they work
but dont look that great
 :-\
bought a $5 set of ear buds at wall mart
I pulled the ear bud rubber surounds and put on a regular straw
 w/o the little rubber deals
stuffed some tp in the straw
1st one I just pushed it in my ear
let it set
trimed it
then put back on the little rubber deal e o
second one did the same
but.........
 I turned on the music
and set it to the best postion to hear tunes
much better, can really tell between the left (1st  one ) and right
I recomend asving a little of the epoxy mix to finsih off and add to the outer area as needed
will test  next week
doing a winter ride
4 day ride phoniex to san diego
we're taking the long way
then 4 days of paragliding at torrey pines
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: Pokey on January 15, 2012, 10:45:34 AM
The big bulk pack that Lowes sells works awesome for me, pretty damn comfy too.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: PH14 on January 15, 2012, 11:47:09 AM
The big bulk pack that Lowes sells works awesome for me, pretty damn comfy too.

Unfortunately after a few hours, foam earplugs cause me a lot of discomfort. After many hours I often experience bleeding. I wear earplugs all the time so it was worth the $90 for a pair that alleviate that issue. It was worth spending more to get different pairs for different uses.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: connie1 on February 01, 2012, 10:07:48 PM
I noticed at the cycle show that the earplug guy was using tubs of slicone putty and charging $80 a crack for custom earplugs.  That got my frugal mind going and remembered that my dentist uses silicone putty for some impressions so I asked him about it.  He said that his stuff is relatively expensive but recalled seing patients with homemade jewellry made from silicone.  Searched the internet and found that hobby and craft stores carry silicone putty for making craft molds (ie chocolate).  Picked up a half pound kit for $29 a craft store.   With a little reading through this thread and a little common sense I made 3 sets of plugs for my wife and I plus a set of custom earbuds and didn't hardly make a dent in the putty containers.  My guess would be that you could get 30 or 40 sets for $29.  How's that for frugal.

Making the plugs isn't as hard as your audiologist would have you believe.  You can feel how far you are installing the silicone while you are doing it.  If it's uncomfortable or doesn't perform well you pitch it in the trash and start again, no big loss.
My earbuds work incredibly well. The volume is so low while in my farm equipment it is hard to believe.
I plan to make plugs for any of my family who rides plus any riding buddies who want them

Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: SVonhof on February 01, 2012, 10:11:19 PM
Hey connie1, how does the silicone putty harden? Just leave it sitting out at room temp or do you have to do something else to cure it?
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: connie1 on February 01, 2012, 10:29:52 PM
It comes as a two part putty.  Throw on a frsh pair of plastic shop gloves, measure out about a 1/3 of a teaspoon of each component and knead them together 'till it is of uniform colour.  I tend to just fold in half and flatten out fold again etc.  The faster you do it the better.  Once you get it in your ear you wait  for about 5-7 minutes and voila you have an ear plug. 
Note:  Mow your ear hair first.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on February 02, 2012, 06:25:43 AM
It comes as a two part putty.  Throw on a frsh pair of plastic shop gloves, measure out about a 1/3 of a teaspoon of each component and knead them together 'till it is of uniform colour.  I tend to just fold in half and flatten out fold again etc.  The faster you do it the better.  Once you get it in your ear you wait  for about 5-7 minutes and voila you have an ear plug. 
Note:  Mow your ear hair first and make sure the wax is gone.

There fixed it for ya!   ;D
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: wally_games on February 02, 2012, 07:55:28 PM
I noticed at the cycle show that the earplug guy was using tubs of slicone putty and charging $80 a crack for custom earplugs.  That got my frugal mind going and remembered that my dentist uses silicone putty for some impressions so I asked him about it.  He said that his stuff is relatively expensive but recalled seing patients with homemade jewellry made from silicone.  Searched the internet and found that hobby and craft stores carry silicone putty for making craft molds (ie chocolate).  Picked up a half pound kit for $29 a craft store.   With a little reading through this thread and a little common sense I made 3 sets of plugs for my wife and I plus a set of custom earbuds and didn't hardly make a dent in the putty containers.  My guess would be that you could get 30 or 40 sets for $29.  How's that for frugal.

Making the plugs isn't as hard as your audiologist would have you believe.  You can feel how far you are installing the silicone while you are doing it.  If it's uncomfortable or doesn't perform well you pitch it in the trash and start again, no big loss.
My earbuds work incredibly well. The volume is so low while in my farm equipment it is hard to believe.
I plan to make plugs for any of my family who rides plus any riding buddies who want them

Link?
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: connie1 on February 02, 2012, 09:37:51 PM
http://www.michaels.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-Michaels-Site/default/Search-AdvancedSearch?cgid=entire&q=silicone+putty (http://www.michaels.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-Michaels-Site/default/Search-AdvancedSearch?cgid=entire&q=silicone+putty)

This is where I got mine but we have a much more limited selection than there is in the states.  If you google silicone putty you will probably find every color and texture.  The stuff I've got is a little more firm than I envision to be optimal but should be able to play with the proportions to soften it up.

Note that when you install this in your ear what goes in will come out when it cures.  You also should remember to get a good solid lock in the hook just above your ear canal.  This helps to keep them in and to provide a benchmark when installing them.   Whatever isn't functional can be trimmed away after, especially if it is too long in your ear canal to be comfortable.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: katata1100 on February 02, 2012, 09:46:00 PM
I have worn hearos on long rides, they are cheap and have worked well when I go to concerts.
On the other hand, ever consider a different windshield? I have Oneal Tirade bluetooth helmet. I set it up to a low, comfortable level of sound before I ride. When I went above 55mph, I could not hear it. I cranked up the volume a little to where I could hear, when I came to a stop, it was uncomfortably loud. Moral of the story- the bike puts out a large amount of noise at speed.
I put on a large cal sci windshield. Noise is a lot less, I can still listen to helmet at low volumes. Rather than buy earplugs, maybe it is better to put money into a windshield that reduces noise?
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: SVonhof on February 02, 2012, 09:57:12 PM
I have worn hearos on long rides, they are cheap and have worked well when I go to concerts.
On the other hand, ever consider a different windshield? I have Oneal Tirade bluetooth helmet. I set it up to a low, comfortable level of sound before I ride. When I went above 55mph, I could not hear it. I cranked up the volume a little to where I could hear, when I came to a stop, it was uncomfortably loud. Moral of the story- the bike puts out a large amount of noise at speed.
I put on a large cal sci windshield. Noise is a lot less, I can still listen to helmet at low volumes. Rather than buy earplugs, maybe it is better to put money into a windshield that reduces noise?
I have a CalSci large (or XL? Can't remember which since it came with the bike) and I still use custom earplugs.
Title: Ear Protection
Post by: mikeb2411 on April 02, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
Hey everyone, I have been using a product by the name of "Earfuze" under my helmet while riding. It's a do-it-yourself moldable ear protection setup and the mold actually "molds" around ear buds. It plugs into the comms on your helmet and allows you to listen to your music and phone.

What is everyone out there using for ear protection that allows them to listen to their music and phone?

Just curious!
Title: Re: Ear Protection
Post by: VirginiaJim on April 02, 2015, 02:21:02 PM
I wear foam ear plugs and turn the music up as loud as I can...SMH10
Title: Re: Ear Protection
Post by: Rhino on April 02, 2015, 02:26:25 PM
Westone custom molded ear phones. http://www.westoneaudio.com/index.php/products/custom-series/cr10.html (http://www.westoneaudio.com/index.php/products/custom-series/cr10.html)
Title: Re: Ear Protection
Post by: mikeb2411 on April 02, 2015, 02:28:38 PM
Westone custom molded ear phones. http://www.westoneaudio.com/index.php/products/custom-series/cr10.html (http://www.westoneaudio.com/index.php/products/custom-series/cr10.html)

Rhino, how long have you had them? I've had the Earfuze for about 8 months and the right ear bud is dying on me! I'm looking for a replacement. How are they at cutting down on outside/wind noise?
Title: Re: Ear Protection
Post by: sailor_chic on April 02, 2015, 03:39:05 PM
I recently purchased these from amazon and I am really impressed with them. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008YDTRI6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008YDTRI6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I am able to plug them into my GPS and listen to my music and actually hear it well into the upper speeds. They also do a good job at blocking the wind noise.
Title: Re: Ear Protection
Post by: maxtog on April 02, 2015, 03:48:19 PM
Hey everyone, I have been using a product by the name of "Earfuze" under my helmet while riding. It's a do-it-yourself moldable ear protection setup and the mold actually "molds" around ear buds. It plugs into the comms on your helmet and allows you to listen to your music and phone.

What is everyone out there using for ear protection that allows them to listen to their music and phone?

Just curious!

I used something similar here from Radians (earlier in what is now the same thread):  http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=4448.msg51253#msg51253 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=4448.msg51253#msg51253)

I had mixed results
Title: Re: Ear Protection
Post by: elp_jc on April 02, 2015, 11:05:28 PM
I recently purchased these from amazon and I am really impressed with them.
They look quite good for the price. But I'm interested in their claimed noise reduction. Conveniently, they don't say anywhere what's their dB rating. Does it say somewhere in the box or instructions? If not, compared to foam earplugs, what's your guess of dB rating? I wear Max-Lite from Howard Leight, which are rated at 30 dB, and wouldn't want any less. The most I've seen in foam ones is 33dB from the Max ones, but they hurt my ears like hell in a few hours. In fact, even the Max-Lites are starting to bother my ears after several hours. Want/need something softer. Thx.
Title: Re: Ear Protection
Post by: sailor_chic on April 03, 2015, 05:57:02 AM
They look quite good for the price. But I'm interested in their claimed noise reduction. Conveniently, they don't say anywhere what's their dB rating. Does it say somewhere in the box or instructions? If not, compared to foam earplugs, what's your guess of dB rating? I wear Max-Lite from Howard Leight, which are rated at 30 dB, and wouldn't want any less. The most I've seen in foam ones is 33dB from the Max ones, but they hurt my ears like hell in a few hours. In fact, even the Max-Lites are starting to bother my ears after several hours. Want/need something softer. Thx.

I just looked to see if there were any instructions included with them. There must not be any or I have discarded them already. I will say though that the noise reduction is sufficient. I am an avid Max-lite wearer also and these are a close second to reducing the wind noise. For the price of these earbuds, I am completely impressed.
Title: Re: Ear Protection
Post by: Rhino on April 03, 2015, 06:21:29 AM
Rhino, how long have you had them? I've had the Earfuze for about 8 months and the right ear bud is dying on me! I'm looking for a replacement. How are they at cutting down on outside/wind noise?

I've had them for a couple of years. I don't wear them day to day on my commute because they are a PITA to put in. You have to lube them. But love them for long rides. They are almost too quiet. With music on even at a low volume I can hear absolutely nothing other than the music.
Title: Re: Earplugs that work
Post by: SVonhof on April 03, 2015, 09:54:44 AM
I've had them for a couple of years. I don't wear them day to day on my commute because they are a PITA to put in. You have to lube them. But love them for long rides. They are almost too quiet. With music on even at a low volume I can hear absolutely nothing other than the music.

I am the one who started this thread and I am still using the Westone 4RT custom plugs. I use them with my Sena SMH10 and the thing I like about the combination is that I can hear the cars/sounds around me, but still hear the music as well. I would not want what Rhino is saying, only being able to hear the music as I am a believer that you need to hear your surroundings as well.
Title: Re: Ear Protection
Post by: maxtog on April 03, 2015, 03:11:51 PM
I've had them for a couple of years. I don't wear them day to day on my commute because they are a PITA to put in. You have to lube them. But love them for long rides. They are almost too quiet. With music on even at a low volume I can hear absolutely nothing other than the music.


Oooh, that is perhaps too quiet.  I would want to hear sirens, unusual bike noises (indicating a problem), horns, etc.