Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: timbo on September 27, 2011, 02:17:04 PM
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Got a question for you guys. Can someone look at their bike and see if you hooked a strap around the lower tree for tieing down the bike, how far out sideways could the tie down point be without touching the plastics on both sides? Thanks!
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I did this in July. Yes, you can wrap a strap around the lower triple without issue, but it has to be almost straight down(in line with forks) to make it work. And I wrapped a towel around the strap to keep the fender/fairing from getting marred. Also used canyon dancers as simple holders, with no real pressure on em. Worked great for a cross country ride.
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Thanks!
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How many miles will you need to transport it Tim? Is a "fly, buy, ride" an option for ya before the weather sets in??
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No it's all good. Will be no problem! It is just a couple of hrs but I have no one to take me.
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No it's all good. Will be no problem! It is just a couple of hrs but I have no one to take me.
I would just take a bus/train/taxi or whatever rather than risk it if it's that close to ya...
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Where are you located maybe someone can help you out...
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Southern IL. Its ok, got the trailer hooked up, pulling out in the morning. Got a game plan, plenty of straps and towels.
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3 straps is all you need. 1 from each side of the lower tripple tree nearly straight down, tighten these 2 first.
Use the third on the rear, make a triangle from the rear wheel to two points a bit behind and to each side, tighten this last it does not need to be too tight.
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Don't forget to tie off or chock the front wheel. It can turn when moving and loosen the straps. Don't ask how I know...
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And D O N O T load the handlebars too much. They snap off.
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Ok, just a little to stabilize. By the time I pull the front down and tie off the rear on both sides, I dont think it will take much on the handlebars to secure it from side to side. Will have the front tire tied down so cant turn.
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Don't load the front down so much that there is no room for the forks to still compress. You will bottom them out actually damage them. I would advise AGAINST Canyon Dancers. These handlebars are aluminum.....enough said.
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I did not use the canyon dancers, didnt need to. I tied on to the lower triple tree on both sides up front and one thru the rear wheel and she rode great! No problems.
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centerstand or kickstand? I took mine down to NC last month and had a devil of a time. First I DID use the canyon dancers and somehow they compacted my grips upward toward the right edge of the handbar (about half an inch). Also I was hesitant to put on centerstand so tied down with bike on kickstand. I also put a strap on either side on swing arm. Wish I had some pics of the best tie down methodology...I'm a lil slow and not grasping totally.
On the flip side, I had a blast of a ride back up to DC from NC!! 5 hours in the saddle from 0500-1000 on the dot.
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I've used the canyon dancers, no kick stand or centerstand down. No additonal straps other than the two on the canyon dancer, 1st gear as a wheel chock.
No issues to report. It had to be the mad pow-ah of KiPass delivering my bike safely with the canyon dancers. Next time I'll get a pic :)
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centerstand or kickstand? I took mine down to NC last month and had a devil of a time. First I DID use the canyon dancers and somehow they compacted my grips upward toward the right edge of the handbar (about half an inch). Also I was hesitant to put on centerstand so tied down with bike on kickstand. I also put a strap on either side on swing arm. Wish I had some pics of the best tie down methodology...I'm a lil slow and not grasping totally.
On the flip side, I had a blast of a ride back up to DC from NC!! 5 hours in the saddle from 0500-1000 on the dot.
IF you aren't careful you can load the grips with canyon dancers. You have to be carefull that there is no lateral load relative to the bars on the grips. Or they will walk, and if you have heated grips you can destroy them.
NEVER, NEEEEEVER use either the kickstand or centerstand to transport a bike. You'll see it on the road, but that's a very, very bad way to transport a bike of any type.
Barry
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Just remember, these are cast bars.........
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I am really surprised at the fear of the cast aluminum bar stands. Those things are plenty strong for tying the bike down. I have hauled mine three times with canyon dancers in front and a pair of straps on the "swing arm". I learned the first time to pull the dancer strap tight laterally first before cinching the bike down. It tore up the grips first trip from the dealer. Also need to be sure to keep the dancer strap off of any of the handlebar controls. My kill switch was also slightly damaged by the strap on the first trip. Last two trips behind my motorhome have been trouble free.
I would be hesitant to use the canyon dancer with heated grips though. There is a lot of pressure from the strap and it may damage the heaters.
Tying to the triple clamp doesn't have near the leverage to control the bike that the handlebars do but if you have grip heaters, that is your best shot.
Matt
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Assuming your tie down connection points are the same, the triples are FAR more secure than the bars. Both in where you connect to the bike, and the angles involved providing a much more appropriate geometry.
Barry
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many many of us have had no issue with canyon dancers. but you'll always have one in the crowd that tightens them or finds some way to have a problem. I've seen sport bikes with the clipons bent and it was blamed on the canyon dancers!
there is no need to go crazy tightening them to stress anything. And the side to side motion of a vehicle, you could turn sharp enough to roll it and you shouldn't break the cast bars on the bike.
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I got a pair of the canyon dancers 2, they have platic cups that slide over the ends of the bars instead of the straps tightening on the grips. Works great.
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I got a pair of the canyon dancers 2, they have platic cups that slide over the ends of the bars instead of the straps tightening on the grips. Works great.
Nice! On the old version we simply used some PVC to avoid any tension on the straps. I guess a great product got better, enjoy!
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I use a Condor mount in my trailer (toyhauler) and just use tie downs at the rear foot peg mounts. I put just enough tension to keep the back of the bike from moving side to side. This works great and you put very minimal pressure on the forks.