Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: GTRrob on May 11, 2011, 06:00:12 PM
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This was a great thread with a lot of info. I just started thinking about doing this and the forum goes down! :'(
To the hand full of gurus that have done this:
Pics?
Tips?
Prices?
Resources?
Thanks from Western WA! ;)
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I did this mod last week. Highly reccomend it, it pulls hard to the rev limiter and wheelies really easy in first, be carefull, you cannot keep it pinned in 1st gear, you will have to chop the throttle. The Kawi engineers must have choked it on purpose because the in take runner boot measures just over 43mm inside and has a 40mm body on it.
Area P full system, PCV, BMC, 44mm bodies flies out. I'm running it without map in the PCV until it's dynoed based on the info from 9SecVMax.
Paid $220 for the TB's on ebay including shipping.
Removal- After tracking the part FedEx I took the old TB's off the night before the new ones arrived. Took me 1.5-2.0 hrs. Remove tank & both side farings. You'll need to remove an engine brace on the LH side. Pull the rubber velocity boots out the airbox/frame access holes. Remove the rubber gasket around the velocity boots will give you another 1/4" clearence on the bottom side to get them out, you'll need it. I fished them out the LH side.
Install- took me about 3 hrs. I swapped the fuel injectors and had to drill & tap the throttle linkage for the cruise control. The cruise control addded 30-45min to the job since the cable brackets had to be removed and re-installed. After getting the throttle bodies in position they are a little tough to get down on the intake boots. I put a piece of 1/4" nylon block I had laying around between the tops of the TB's & the airbox/frame. This way I could pry & apply pressure evenly across all 4.
Test ride- better than prom night.
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GTR, were ya at? I have the TBs ready to go, just havent had the time. I'm in Port Orchard, maybe we could learn from each other?
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My wife just called to tell me my ZX 14 TB’s had just arrived. ;D This would be the perfect weekend to install them seeing as it’s going to rain all weekend, but I’m going to wait till someone has a Dyno or Autotune map available for the PCV.
I know some are running it with a zero or FuelMoto’s Area P map but my bike is running so strong and getting such great gas mileage right now, I just don’t want to mess with it till a good map is available.
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my zx14 tb arrived today.
anyone sharing a map for flies out zx tb?
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my zx14 tb arrived today.
anyone sharing a map for flies out zx tb?
What pipe are you running?
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What pipe are you running?
stock, aftermarket is too loud
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stock, aftermarket is too loud
I think most that are doing the TB's upgrade are running a full aftermarket system. you may be forced to create your own with either adding an Autotune to your PCV or getting it Dynoed.
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stock, aftermarket is too loud
Turn your music up... :loco:
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stock, aftermarket is too loud
I would hazard an opinion here-adding air in requires an exit, the stocker w/cats may prove that the ZX TBs will have no gain, and may prove to hamper performance. Kinda like throwing on a 750 double pumper on an ol 350 chevy with stock exhaust, trust me, it ran like crap. Engine is nothing more then an air pump. The larger TBs will definately increase what goes in, but you will still have the restrictive cats and stock exhaust. I dont see much of a gain if all you add is a slip on, dem cats are still there. If a person plans on doing this mod, it is best served complete.
MHO and YMMV
Chet
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going to zx14 exhaust, flow better without being too loud.
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Just finished installing my zx14 throttle bodies and it started to rain. Sh*t! I too bought them on Ebay for $218.00 including shipping. Took about 6-7 hours. It's a tight fit. I ran into some trouble trying to re install the velocity stacks onto the tb's. There are some little **** that hold the clamp onto the velocity stack so the clamps don't turn when tightening. No way I could get them on the tb's that way. I recommend cutting the **** off of the velocity stacks where the clamps go so it will assemble easier. I probably spent 45 minutes fighting that before I cut them off. Went right together then. I have a full Yoshimura zx14 pipe, a PCV with Fuelmoto's full system Area P map and will probably install the Autotune soon. Now if the rain would only stop so I can get out and try it.
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GTR, were ya at? I have the TBs ready to go, just havent had the time. I'm in Port Orchard, maybe we could learn from each other?
I'll bring the beer. Tacoma
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Anyone have a Dyno tune or Autotune map for the ZX14 TB’s, Area P set up yet?
If not now, does anyone have plans to produce one in the near future?
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Anyone have a Dyno tune or Autotune map for the ZX14 TB’s, Area P set up yet?
If not now, does anyone have plans to produce one in the near future?
Maybe Sunday still looking for a clock with more then 24 hours on it.
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Maybe Sunday still looking for a clock with more then 24 hours on it.
Hey Pappy,
How is Sunday looking for the TB's install?
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Not sure if you followed my ZXTB thread, they are installed and a short run. Once I get a few miles on it I'll have a MAP ready for the asking. If there is anyone from 'round here that wants to do this let me know, I have space in the shop and I'm sure it will go much quicker. And since I'm still home recovering I have lots of free time.
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If there is anyone from 'round here that wants to do this let me know, I have space in the shop and I'm sure it will go much quicker. And since I'm still home recovering I have lots of free time.
First off, I hope you recover FAST!
Second, where is "round here"?
This would be a fun project if I had some spare time! Plus to meet new friends would be a big bonus!
DuneDevil
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First off, I hope you recover FAST!
Second, where is "round here"?
This would be a fun project if I had some spare time! Plus to meet new friends would be a big bonus!
DuneDevil
Port Orchard, WA. Still an open offer, once the ice leaves anyway.
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You really need to take a vacation and come down here to Phoenix, AZ... Get out of that weather and as a added bonus you could help me install all my farkles that are on there way....
ZX14 Throttlebody's
Full Muzzy exhaust
Autotune
Radiator Guard
Galfer Brake/clutch lines
New Brake Pads
Throttle Meister
Helmet lock
Big Foot
Axle Sliders
Damn I have my work cut out for me.... What was I thinking ordering all at once.
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You really need to take a vacation and come down here to Phoenix, AZ... Get out of that weather and as a added bonus you could help me install all my farkles that are on there way....
ZX14 Throttlebody's
Full Muzzy exhaust
Autotune
Radiator Guard
Galfer Brake/clutch lines
New Brake Pads
Throttle Meister
Helmet lock
Big Foot
Axle Sliders
Damn I have my work cut out for me.... What was I thinking ordering all at once.
Oops I forgot:
New Spark Plugs
BMC Air filter
Front tire
Rear tire
and last but not least a oil change.
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You really need to take a vacation and come down here to Phoenix, AZ... Get out of that weather and as a added bonus you could help me install all my farkles that are on there way....
ZX14 Throttlebody's
Full Muzzy exhaust
Autotune
Radiator Guard
Galfer Brake/clutch lines
New Brake Pads
Throttle Meister
Helmet lock
Big Foot
Axle Sliders
Damn I have my work cut out for me.... What was I thinking ordering all at once.
Phoenix this time of year should be really nice, It may be something for the near future.
How old are the plugs? I ride hard enough twice a year that I need them changed out when I have the valves done. Still usable, but not pristine.
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Phoenix this time of year should be really nice, It may be something for the near future.
How old are the plugs? I ride hard enough twice a year that I need them changed out when I have the valves done. Still usable, but not pristine.
Plugs are probably fine... I have about 25K miles on her in the past year when I bought her for a total of 28k and the plugs are original since 08 so I figured if I'm doing all this other stuff can't hurt to put some fresh plugs in at the same time.
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Plugs are probably fine... I have about 25K miles on her in the past year when I bought her for a total of 28k and the plugs are original since 08 so I figured if I'm doing all this other stuff can't hurt to put some fresh plugs in at the same time.
Wont hurt and since your'e in there may as well.
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are all years of the zx14 TB the same or is there a year that is better than others? :feedback:
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are all years of the zx14 TB the same or is there a year that is better than others? :feedback:
I think 2008 ZX14 TB’s and up are the same as the Connie but 2006 & 7 have larger injectors.
Either way you can just swap out theZX14 injectors for the Connie’s injectors. So if you’re planning on using the Connie’s injectors any year ZX14 TB’s will work.
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thx for info... :chugbeer:
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The throttle bodies on a ZX 14 are 44 mm in diameter which is considerably larger than the 40 mm T.B.s used on a C-14. I believe all years for both models are those sizes, respectively.
Brian
I think 2008 ZX14 TB’s and up are the same as the Connie but 2006 & 7 have larger injectors.
Either way you can just swap out theZX14 injectors for the Connie’s injectors. So if you’re planning on using the Connie’s injectors any year ZX14 TB’s will work.
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Do people use the zx14 injectors or the Concours injectors during this swap?
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The injectors are the same for both the ZX and the Concours, at least on the '08 models.
Brian
Do people use the zx14 injectors or the Concours injectors during this swap?
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Do people use the zx14 injectors or the Concours injectors during this swap?
I was advised to swap the C14 injectors over to the ZX TBs. For the life of me I don't remember the exact reason as to why, but at the time it made sense to me. I'm hoping to get in a ride tomorow Afternoon, supposed to be sunny and upper 40s. If things work out it will be my first real ride since surgery, me and the bike ;D
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Good luck on the recovery and your ride tomorrow! My little package arrived today, so I am very interested in hearing your impressions. I am hoping to hear that it is better than a turbo with a nitrous shot, but I have been prone to unrealistically high hopes in the past :).
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Excavator and a stump ate into my ride >:( Nothing on the docket for tomorow other than a ride with the misses ;D
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Hey Son of Pappy, any feedback yet? Inquiring minds want to know :D
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Not yet :( (&%$&^(*&^ back >:(