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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: davidnixon on August 17, 2011, 06:50:09 PM

Title: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: davidnixon on August 17, 2011, 06:50:09 PM
hopped on my 09 after work and noticed the LCD display was not working normally -  hard to see the text and images as they were very light.  It seems to have come back to normal on the trip home.  no unusual environmental factors to consider - 80 degrees w/ 30 % humidity.  Has anyone experienced similar?


Thx,

Dave
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: B.D.F. on August 17, 2011, 07:03:21 PM
If the LCD gets hot it will lose contrast. It happens occasionally when the bike sits so the LCD display is in the sun or the temps. are very high. The contrast returns as the temperature drops.

This is a characteristic of LCDs themselves and has nothing to do with the C-14 itself. Any / all LCD displays will act this way when hot.

Nothing to worry about and there is no long term damage after the display cools down.

Brian


hopped on my 09 after work and noticed the LCD display was not working normally -  hard to see the text and images as they were very light.  It seems to have come back to normal on the trip home.  no unusual environmental factors to consider - 80 degrees w/ 30 % humidity.  Has anyone experienced similar?


Thx,

Dave
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: spotcw on August 17, 2011, 08:17:23 PM
happened to me after sitting in hot sun for a couple hours.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: So Cal Joe on August 17, 2011, 08:27:10 PM
Happened to me also. I toss my gloves over the display when I park in the sun.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: maxtog on August 17, 2011, 08:56:13 PM
hopped on my 09 after work and noticed the LCD display was not working normally -  hard to see the text and images as they were very light.  It seems to have come back to normal on the trip home.  no unusual environmental factors to consider - 80 degrees w/ 30 % humidity.  Has anyone experienced similar?

It may have been only 80 degrees air temp when you LEFT work, but it might have been higher earlier.  But more importantly, if the screen were in direct sunlight, it will get a lot hotter than the air temp... your butt should prove that when you sit on your seat :)

Like Brian said- it is normal for all LCD's.  If you find it to be a problem, then cover the dash with something light colored when you park it at work!
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: davidnixon on August 18, 2011, 09:11:23 AM
Thanks all for the inforamative replies - I think the key factor must have been the angle of the sun versus the actual ambient which was a high of 80 here at 7,000' ASL.   Does anyone use a full bike cover and if so what brand?

Dave
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: Conrad on August 18, 2011, 09:18:58 AM
Thanks all for the inforamative replies - I think the key factor must have been the angle of the sun versus the actual ambient which was a high of 80 here at 7,000' ASL.   Does anyone use a full bike cover and if so what brand?

Dave

The Nelson Rigg UV-2000 in XL works great. It's very reflective and keeps the bike cool. It's actually a more reflective than this pic would suggest and fits better too.

Not my bike but it's the cover that I use at work. As a matter of fact, gotta go cover her up now.

(http://www.motorcyclegear.com/image/path/26493/concours14_a.jpg)
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: C14_Rider on August 18, 2011, 11:29:52 AM
Does anyone use a full bike cover and if so what brand?

I find the Laminar KwiKover very handy.  Pulls out of the pouch mounted at the rear of the seat.  Stretchy silver fabric, and can cover the display.  When ready to ride, just fold it back into the pouch, zip, and ride.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: davidnixon on August 18, 2011, 01:26:59 PM
Steve - me likes
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: xjrguy on August 18, 2011, 01:43:53 PM
I had an FJR1300 for 5 years which had LCD and never had this problem.

Just bought a 2011 BMW S1000RR that also has an LCD dash panel and it too does not fade after sitting in the parking lot all day at work. (Los Angeles so it's hot and sunny all day)

My 2010 C14 has been the only vehicle that has exhibited this problem.

Methinks they just cheaped out on the LCD display on this motorcycle or it is a defect.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: stevewfl on August 18, 2011, 03:47:10 PM
I had an FJR1300 for 5 years which had LCD and never had this problem.

Just bought a 2011 BMW S1000RR that also has an LCD dash panel and it too does not fade after sitting in the parking lot all day at work. (Los Angeles so it's hot and sunny all day)

My 2010 C14 has been the only vehicle that has exhibited this problem.

Methinks they just cheaped out on the LCD display on this motorcycle or it is a defect.

I had about most brands under the sun and never had a bike go >41,000 miles with not a single "issue". But hey, I'm still not sold on Kwak, I'd had the worst of luck with this brand in the past of any.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: xjrguy on August 18, 2011, 04:24:29 PM
My tach and speedo needles slightly melted too. Happened with stock and aftermarket windshield.

Never had that issue on any previous or current (other than C14) bike before.

I've got the Kawasaki warranty, but from what I understand if you replace the gauge cluster your miles go back to 0.

Haven't warrantied the LCD fading issue or the needles yet. Hoping that Kawasaki gets a better supplier for their LCD panels and gauge package.

These relatively minor (but annoying) niggles have been the only fault of the bike (for me) so far.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: Conrad on August 19, 2011, 04:47:26 AM
My tach and speedo needles slightly melted too. Happened with stock and aftermarket windshield.

Never had that issue on any previous or current (other than C14) bike before.

I've got the Kawasaki warranty, but from what I understand if you replace the gauge cluster your miles go back to 0.

Haven't warrantied the LCD fading issue or the needles yet. Hoping that Kawasaki gets a better supplier for their LCD panels and gauge package.These relatively minor (but annoying) niggles have been the only fault of the bike (for me) so far.

Don't hold your breath while you wait.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: manowarwi on September 13, 2011, 07:53:19 PM
This happened to me today for the first time.  My bike was sitting out in the parking lot at work and it was sunny this afternoon, but no different than any other day this summer, in fact it was much cooler today compared to our "miserable" Wisconsin summer in the 80's and 90's.   Maybe it was the smoke blowing all the way over to Green Bay from the wild fires in Minnesota...

It came back to normal within 5 minutes of riding and I just checked a bit ago and all is well now.  Definitely had me freaking out until I checked the posts here.  I have never seen this on any of my other bikes either - but I've never had a display with this much detail on it before either so who knows.  I'm just glad I'm not the only one and it goes away!
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: redbarber on September 13, 2011, 09:28:08 PM
Let me echo what others have already said.  I've had my C14 for almost 15 months.  That includes 2 (almost) Georgia summers.  I've parked in the sun literally dozens of times.  In all that time, my LCD display only faded out one time, and it wasn't even the hottest day by a long shot.  I suspect it has something to do with the angle of the sun, the position of the bike relative to the sun, and other variables.  When everything lines up just right, the display gets super-heated and fades out.  I'm working on a "mini-cover" out of that silver nylon material that will cover only the windshield, guages and handlebars.  Should be small enough to stuff into the glove box.   I agree with many here that most LCD displays would (or could) fade out under the hot sun.  The fact that some other bike hasn't done this for some other owner (yet) only reflects my own experience with the C14 on all the rides except that one.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 14, 2011, 04:46:55 AM
Let me echo what others have already said.  I've had my C14 for almost 15 months.  That includes 2 (almost) Georgia summers.  I've parked in the sun literally dozens of times.  In all that time, my LCD display only faded out one time, and it wasn't even the hottest day by a long shot.  I suspect it has something to do with the angle of the sun, the position of the bike relative to the sun, and other variables.  When everything lines up just right, the display gets super-heated and fades out.  I'm working on a "mini-cover" out of that silver nylon material that will cover only the windshield, guages and handlebars.  Should be small enough to stuff into the glove box.   I agree with many here that most LCD displays would (or could) fade out under the hot sun.  The fact that some other bike hasn't done this for some other owner (yet) only reflects my own experience with the C14 on all the rides except that one.

It could also be a less than stellar batch of screens that Kwak outsourced.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: DenverC-14 on September 14, 2011, 07:58:35 AM
Mine has done the fade out a few times as well. Lack of quality/quality control on the part of Kawi. Lowest bidder more than likely. It's annoying, but I don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Liquid Crystal Display problem?
Post by: Beamer on September 16, 2011, 06:29:48 AM
I had a 2005 Yamaha Rx-1 (Snowmobile) with a LCD display, and on certain days the sun would fade out the LCD on it.