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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Bourne2Ride on August 07, 2011, 10:14:05 AM

Title: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: Bourne2Ride on August 07, 2011, 10:14:05 AM
What's with all the low mileage Connie's. I was doing a quick scan of eBay and Craig's list looking for used farkles and there are dozens of 2008's and later bikes with 8K miles or less!
I've had my 2011 since March, and in the 5 months since have ridden it over 6K miles.
Could it be that the only bikes for sale or that would sell are low mileage examples? If so, why buy a Super Sport Tourer if you're not going to get some miles on it. There were a lot cheaper bikes available when I purchased my bike, and if I weren't going to put miles on it I would have chosen a different (read: less expensive) motorcycle.

I guess what I'm saying is why buy the Concours14 / GTR1400 if you don't intend to - well, tour? Seems like a huge waste of money on a "mistaken" purchase.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: Roadhound on August 07, 2011, 10:19:47 AM
It's always been that way with all makes and types of bikes."Some own them, some Ride them."
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: Scaffolder on August 07, 2011, 10:22:24 AM
You're right! I had an 08 and put 44,000 miles on it in 18 months. And I have a 2010 that is now 7 months old with over 13,000 miles on it. I think with a Sport-Tourer you should be looking to ride 15,000-25,000 per year. Unless you don't ride often, but when you do, it is on freaky long tours.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: C1xRider on August 07, 2011, 10:29:54 AM
It's always been that way with all makes and types of bikes."Some own them, some Ride them."

+1 to that.

My 2010 has over 17K on it now, and that's trying not to ride in the rain, in the Pacific North West Wet.   :)
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: stewart on August 07, 2011, 11:51:17 AM
Some people just have too many toys. I prefer to have two sets - Summer, C14 and Mountain bike, and Winter, Snow Skis.

There's only so my fun you can have and two wheel, two skis seems to work for me.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: flippedr6 on August 07, 2011, 12:08:11 PM
Some of us just can't ride as much as we want.  I'm a pilot and work 7days on away from home and 7 days off at home.  During the week I have a ton of house work to do.  I can't ride the bike to work due to luggage and headset bag.  But when I do take it out it gets miles.  First trip in 08 8 day trip from Boston to Nova Scotia, last year 7 day trip back roads Boston to PA, this year 7 day trip Boston to WI.  When I ride with my friends on some  weekends we usually do 500 mi days.  I wish I could ride it more but the time isn't always there.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on August 07, 2011, 12:53:10 PM
What's with all the low mileage Connie's. I was doing a quick scan of eBay and Craig's list looking for used farkles and there are dozens of 2008's and later bikes with 8K miles or less!
............Seems like a huge waste of money on a "mistaken" purchase.

what you are seeing is exactly that, the result of people who just "had to have" the super-tourer with the big image, when it was introduced.
Many of these purchasers did not fit the bike physically, or mentally, but they had cash, and bought it thinking they could make it fit....to a sad realization that they could not.
Many installed lowering kits, bar replacements/adjustments, farkles out the butt, in an attempt to make it fit them, or their style, with great expectations, and realized it just wasn't gonna happen.....but they did get to brag about having "the baddest" bike around for a year or two before quietly placing it up for sale....

people today have a slight edge, and can read all the diatribe that has now been placed in print, and can make a better decision when looking for a ride, at least if they read all the different opinions of this bike for the last 4 years, they had more to go on than those buying the bike "cold" when it was introduced.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: ZG on August 07, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
What's with all the low mileage Connie's. I was doing a quick scan of eBay and Craig's list looking for used farkles and there are dozens of 2008's and later bikes with 8K miles or less!
I've had my 2011 since March, and in the 5 months since have ridden it over 6K miles.
Could it be that the only bikes for sale or that would sell are low mileage examples? If so, why buy a Super Sport Tourer if you're not going to get some miles on it. There were a lot cheaper bikes available when I purchased my bike, and if I weren't going to put miles on it I would have chosen a different (read: less expensive) motorcycle.

I guess what I'm saying is why buy the Concours14 / GTR1400 if you don't intend to - well, tour? Seems like a huge waste of money on a "mistaken" purchase.

There are still new leftover models out there for sale, so 8k miles really isn't telling much if the bike was just bought new within the past year...
 
I also agree with Stewart, multiple toys (or other hobbies) will definately play into that, I'm guessing that the "majority" of folks with high miles only have one bike in the garage...
 
I'd also make the argument that just because one does not ride across the country or put a lot of miles on their bike doesn't mean they still don't enjoy owning and riding one for shorter weekend/day trips and even commuting...
 
Nothing wrong with low mileage bikes IMO, for some of us (like me) there are many reasons for not racking up high miles year after year... family, work, and travel often come before riding for me.  :-\
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: manowarwi on August 07, 2011, 02:17:25 PM
What's with all the low mileage Connie's. I was doing a quick scan of eBay and Craig's list looking for used farkles and there are dozens of 2008's and later bikes with 8K miles or less!
I've had my 2011 since March, and in the 5 months since have ridden it over 6K miles.
Could it be that the only bikes for sale or that would sell are low mileage examples? If so, why buy a Super Sport Tourer if you're not going to get some miles on it. There were a lot cheaper bikes available when I purchased my bike, and if I weren't going to put miles on it I would have chosen a different (read: less expensive) motorcycle.

I guess what I'm saying is why buy the Concours14 / GTR1400 if you don't intend to - well, tour? Seems like a huge waste of money on a "mistaken" purchase.

I know a dealer around here just picked up around 10 '08 demo units that all had anywhere from 4k to 20k from Kawi, so that may be part of it.

I purchased my '08 this year with only 3200 miles on it.  The previous owner had two bikes, and his other bike had majority of his miles on it.

I can also say I've only put about 3k on my bike since I bought it, but I don't feel it was a mistake, I just don't get a chance to ride because of other responsibilities with family and work.  Of course out of my 3k, probably 2-2.5k of that was all on multi-day trips through twisties and avoiding interstates.  I'm a believer in quality miles, anyone can set a throttle lock at 75 and go 500+ miles in a day.  Part of the reason I don't waste my time with the Iron Butt.  I love to ride - but I value the quality of the miles over the quantity.

If I had the money (and wife approval) I would probably have kept my little 600cc FZ6 and used it as my daily commuter too.  I love the C14, but there are times I miss having a super light bike for running to work, etc. 
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: jaclaw on August 07, 2011, 02:40:56 PM
I'm just tickled pink that it is the case,  I bought mine in early June with 2,000 miles.  It was bought new in 08 and just never fit the orginal purchaser.  I've put 4,700 miles on it since and commute with it on most days including recent 97-100 degree days.  I love the bike.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: JetJock on August 07, 2011, 03:28:01 PM
Some of us just can't ride as much as we want. On the days when I can ride to work (usually have to take the truck), it's still only 8 miles total.

The big trip I had planned for this summer, well, looks like it's not going to happen. Too far behind at work and gotta pay for the toys somehow.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: DaveO on August 07, 2011, 06:09:18 PM
Mines got 5000 miles on it.. 1.5 years old. I guess I never bonded with C-14 ... I suppose  its  the weight thing,not sporting enough. I get on it when I feel like cruising and it does that pretty good.
Why havent I got rid of it ??
I will when the time is right and I see a bike I want to trade for .In the meantime Ive got another bike to ride(06 FZ1) that really gets my blood going. Its my main squeeze.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: maxtog on August 07, 2011, 09:59:14 PM
It's always been that way with all makes and types of bikes."Some own them, some Ride them."

Some have less TIME/opportunity to ride them (that would be me) than others do.
Others have multiple vehicles that get time shared between them all.
Yet others live in areas with really sucky weather equating to a shorter riding "season".
Some of us live 4 blocks from work and walk (that would be me; I put a total of about 4,000 miles per year on my car and bike COMBINED).
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: stevewfl on August 07, 2011, 10:14:42 PM
I have a few bikes and the '10 C14 alone has >41,000.  The first 10 months I had it i did laps on the track and a few thousand street miles on an R1 too (sold it lately).  Plus I ride a Honda on knobbies often.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: Bourne2Ride on August 08, 2011, 09:18:59 AM
Thanks for posting everyone. That clears it up for me. I was assuming there were a lot of people with more money then sense out there that wanted the big dog Connie; but only ride her in fair weather to the local bike bar on a Saturday or Sunday.
Since I only have space and money for one bike I picked the bike that suit my need for a Long Distance sporty bike that I could have fun with day to day. I can see if, I could own more then one bike, how I would get a naked sports bike and commute to work with that everyday and have fun most weekends.
The Concours fits my needs adequately. There's a place in my heart for that Naked Sport Bike (I really want a Speed Triple R); but not a place in my life.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: stewart on August 08, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
You should be very happy with the Connie. I only had budget and enough leash for one bike. I also wanted something I could tour on with the wife, and something sporty when I was alone.

The C14 has been perfect, its even sporty when the wife is on the back fully loaded up with gear, and comfortable when I'm riding miles on my own.

Its a sure bet, but test ride one to find out yourself.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: Pokey on August 08, 2011, 05:06:29 PM
Still better than most Harley owners...........
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: valkmc on August 08, 2011, 06:22:58 PM
I have a 2009 w/13.5k. Bought it new Dec of 2010 with zero miles and owned two bikes until April of 2010 when I sold my Valkyrie. I rode both bikes when I had two. Don't ride to work often, the commute is only 6 miles. Don't feel like letting the bike sit in Florida sunshine all day for a 6 mile ride.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: Tremainiac on August 08, 2011, 08:58:38 PM
Time, I don't know where you all get the time.
I'm not commuting to NYC on my Connie. Ever!
An hour in the Lincoln tunnel sucking fumes and parking on the street, where they park by feel, ain't happening! EVER.  >:(
Only got 2k on my left over 09 since Nov, and I'm content with that, for now. Plus another 1200 on my TBS. After a suck a$$ winter and damn hot summer. Did 700+ day once on the TBS, once. Hence the purchase of the Concours. Not as young as I once was.
But I'm looking forward to it. ;D
To quote Robin Williams... "Reality... What a concept!!"
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: jjsC6 on August 09, 2011, 04:44:27 AM
Consider this.  I have a 30 month old Goldwing with less than 9,000 miles on it.  Why?  Because it's a two-up bike only for when my wife rides with me, and she won't ride for 6 months of the year due to the heat.  But it doesn't mean I don't ride.  My 20  month old Concours has 23,000 miles on it.
Title: Re: What's with low mileage Connie's?
Post by: Sea Level on August 09, 2011, 06:25:10 AM
Some of us just can't ride as much as we want.  I'm a pilot and work 7days on away from home and 7 days off at home.  During the week I have a ton of house work to do.  I can't ride the bike to work due to luggage and headset bag.  But when I do take it out it gets miles.  First trip in 08 8 day trip from Boston to Nova Scotia, last year 7 day trip back roads Boston to PA, this year 7 day trip Boston to WI.  When I ride with my friends on some  weekends we usually do 500 mi days.  I wish I could ride it more but the time isn't always there.

I'm not a professional pilot, but GA flying does take much of my time (fly out of Norwood - hey, it sounds like you're from around here, we should ride!). Plus I put on about five hours worth of golf every weekend, and there you have it: not much time. Stil, I've managed to put 7k on my new 2011 since April.