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Title: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: DaveO on August 05, 2011, 05:53:45 PM
Thinking someday Id like to ride up there.
Dreaming mostly. Itll be at least a few more years before I can take off for a month.
You that have been ,what  bike  you ride ? Solo or 2 up?
Was the bike you took a good choice or were you wishing you were on something else when the road got gnarley.
Were there roads you wanted to take but didnt because you thought your bike would not be up for it?
Im all into having the right tool for the job.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: justbob on August 05, 2011, 07:52:44 PM
 I took a (1 up) trip to Alaska in 2004 on my 1000 V-Strom, it was a great bike for that trip. I did 11,400 miles in 23 days, the only thing the bike required during the trip was a new rear tire, which I had planned on and had a tire waiting for me in Wasilla Alaska. We rode the Haul road to Prudhoe Bay but couldn't go to Inuvik or Chicken due to forest fires that year that had the roads closed while we were in the area.
I have a new Yamaha Super Tenere on order, due any day now and may take it up to Alaska next year
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: DaveO on August 05, 2011, 08:26:29 PM
sounds like a very cool trip Bob You really put on some  miles.
Yes, the v Strom has a good reputation  for reliability and as a practical workhorse . Come to think of it Suzuki  has made the most reliable bikes I have owned and that should be top consideration.
Probaby still a very good choice for a trip like yours.Just reading the specs on that bike and Suzuki did a fine job of design on that one and kept the weight down too.
I admit I didnt like the look of that bike when it appeared but now Im starting to "get it"
Looking foward to hearing all about that Tenere.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: valkmc on August 05, 2011, 09:37:00 PM
Just got back,  left on June 20th and returned July 28th, rode 10k and took the ferry from Juneau to Bellingham another 2k. Mostly solo. Wife flew into Vegas and rode to Florence AZ with me, then flew back to Florida. Bike was great for the trip, ran very little interstate, mostly two lane blacktop. Did not ride up to the Artic Circle it was raining and did not want to ride all those miles in the mud on my Connie.  She was great in the mountains and I really pushed her. I rode long streches of twisties lasting 50 or 60 miles at a time. If you go make sure ride over the mountians into Skagway Alaska and be sure to bring warm clothes, I saw snow flakes in June. The Oregon and Northern California Coast were also great, loved the redwoods. I camped when possible and stayed in some real low class hotels to keep cost down. Have not figured out total cost but estimate about 4k. That includes being stuck in Vegas while final drive leak was fixed. If you decide to camp on the Alaskan Highway stop at RV parks they will let you throw up your tent for $10-$20 and have good facilities because they cater to the older crowd. All I can say is do it, I talked about it for 10 years and am glad I did it. I have posted pictures on this site.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: SonnyC on August 06, 2011, 12:45:49 AM
Went last summer.  Left San Diego July 3, 2010 with two other bikers all riding solo.  I was on a '09 Candy Red Concours14 (ABS), 2nd rider was on a HD RoadKing, and the 3rd rider was on an '03 BMW 1150 RT.  Our interstate route was on 15 up to Idaho and we started taking secondary roads.  We took 75 to 93 to Glacier National Park, stayed at the Blackfeet Reservation and crossed over the border at "Del Bonito" agricultural crossing.  Went to Calgary to Banff, then to Jasper in Alberta.  We to Alberta 40 (AKA Alaska scenic highway) until Dawson Creek for the start of the AlCan.  From there to Delta Junction to Fairbanks.  We had several days of rain and portion of the Alcan were under construction.  The Connie performed well in gravel, loose sand, mud, wet road etc... only stopped during a heavy hail storm in Montana (I'm from SoCAl and we can't handle that stuff on the road).  Thanks God I had a radiator guard, fender extender and a headlight guard on my bike.  Both side cases were full plus a full 50 liter top case, and a drybag and other stuff tied to the passenger seat.  Even loaded, bike rode well when I pushed it to 120+mph for a few miles in Montana.  New PR2 were great in the twisties.  We did 9000 miles in 25 days.  We camped weather permitting, hotel when we needed a hot shower/meal.  Met numerous bikers...all of them friendly.  Met many Europeans on bikes and bicycle on the AlCan...

It was a memorable trip and I will ride it again with my son or drive there with the wife.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: DaveO on August 06, 2011, 05:59:28 AM
Just got back,  left on June 20th and returned July 28th, rode 10k and took the ferry from Juneau to Bellingham another 2k. Mostly solo. Wife flew into Vegas and rode to Florence AZ with me, then flew back to Florida. Bike was great for the trip, ran very little interstate, mostly two lane blacktop. Did not ride up to the Artic Circle it was raining and did not want to ride all those miles in the mud on my Connie.  She was great in the mountains and I really pushed her. I rode long streches of twisties lasting 50 or 60 miles at a time. If you go make sure ride over the mountians into Skagway Alaska and be sure to bring warm clothes, I saw snow flakes in June. The Oregon and Northern California Coast were also great, loved the redwoods. I camped when possible and stayed in some real low class hotels to keep cost down. Have not figured out total cost but estimate about 4k. That includes being stuck in Vegas while final drive leak was fixed. If you decide to camp on the Alaskan Highway stop at RV parks they will let you throw up your tent for $10-$20 and have good facilities because they cater to the older crowd. All I can say is do it, I talked about it for 10 years and am glad I did it. I have posted pictures on this site.

Cool beans!
Probably how Ill do it ,camp when possible.  How much cubic space does small tent reqire?
How much were you paying for the low class motels ?
 It DOES get stressful in the evening  on a long trip when you are not prepared to camp.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: DaveO on August 06, 2011, 06:05:07 AM
Went last summer.  Left San Diego July 3, 2010 with two other bikers all riding solo.  I was on a '09 Candy Red Concours14 (ABS), 2nd rider was on a HD RoadKing, and the 3rd rider was on an '03 BMW 1150 RT.  Our interstate route was on 15 up to Idaho and we started taking secondary roads.  We took 75 to 93 to Glacier National Park, stayed at the Blackfeet Reservation and crossed over the border at "Del Bonito" agricultural crossing.  Went to Calgary to Banff, then to Jasper in Alberta.  We to Alberta 40 (AKA Alaska scenic highway) until Dawson Creek for the start of the AlCan.  From there to Delta Junction to Fairbanks.  We had several days of rain and portion of the Alcan were under construction.  The Connie performed well in gravel, loose sand, mud, wet road etc... only stopped during a heavy hail storm in Montana (I'm from SoCAl and we can't handle that stuff on the road).  Thanks God I had a radiator guard, fender extender and a headlight guard on my bike.  Both side cases were full plus a full 50 liter top case, and a drybag and other stuff tied to the passenger seat.  Even loaded, bike rode well when I pushed it to 120+mph for a few miles in Montana.  New PR2 were great in the twisties.  We did 9000 miles in 25 days.  We camped weather permitting, hotel when we needed a hot shower/meal.  Met numerous bikers...all of them friendly.  Met many Europeans on bikes and bicycle on the AlCan...

It was a memorable trip and I will ride it again with my son or drive there with the wife.
It suprises me to hear the c-14 did well in the mud and muck. How many miles of this stuff are you talking about?
Sounds like you had a great trip!
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: vortex2 on August 06, 2011, 10:39:02 AM
I did it in 2010 on my '10. 11K miles in 15 days, NY to AK and back in a big loop. No problems
with the bike but there were times I wished I had my KLR.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: Two Skies on August 06, 2011, 11:08:28 AM
AK Diane lives in Alaska, and owns a C10 Connie.  Apparently, though, she never made the transition to the new forum...
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: jworth on August 06, 2011, 11:19:24 AM
A guy I know went up there in a small group.  He rode a KLR I believe.   He did go up to the circle.   He did say that if he were going to do it again, he'd ride to Washington and take a boat up to Alaska bypassing Canada rather than riding through it.   Just passing on what he told me.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: valkmc on August 08, 2011, 09:54:55 PM
Cool beans!
Probably how Ill do it ,camp when possible.  How much cubic space does small tent reqire?
How much were you paying for the low class motels ?
 It DOES get stressful in the evening  on a long trip when you are not prepared to camp.

In the lower 48 low class hotels went from $25 to $50 bucks. Found several motel 6 for around 30 with AARP discount. Forget it in Canada, cheapest I found there were in the 60 to 70 range and more when I reached Alaska. After Dawson Creek I camped all the way to Alaska, mostly $20 per night. I packed an equipment bag used for softball, 32 inches wide but very narrow with a small 2 man tent, a backpacker sleeping bag. a twin size air matteress with a hand air pump and an airplane pillow. It fit on my back seat across the top of the side bags. I also put a small extension cord in it, came in handy for charging the cell and ipod at night.

Compression bags bought at wally world for $13 really help packing. The roll up with whatever you put in them and force air out a one way valve at the bottom, makes your clothes and the pillow flatten right out. I only camp 3 days in a row and then hotel it for a night or two. I did stay a couple of nights in a hostel for $10 per night.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: valkmc on August 08, 2011, 10:03:07 PM
A guy I know went up there in a small group.  He rode a KLR I believe.   He did go up to the circle.   He did say that if he were going to do it again, he'd ride to Washington and take a boat up to Alaska bypassing Canada rather than riding through it.   Just passing on what he told me.

Rode the ferry back from Juneau Alaska to Bellingham Washington, Cost about $800 but when you factor 4 night lodging and 2500 miles worth of gas in it is not as expensive as it seems. I took some beers on and a bottle of Baileys for my coffee and a few snacks. I set my tent up on the deck with all the other bikers so I had good sleeping arrangements. My tent was actually under an overhang so it did not get wet when it rained. The was a couple of places to eat and a bar on board also. There were about 25 or 30 bikes on board so there was lots of story telling. Had a good time and the scenery was fantastic.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: SteveJ. on August 09, 2011, 11:00:31 AM
I went up in '04. Consider the Cassiar Hy in one direction. Nice, no traffic, short sections of good gravel road, mostly chipseal, with pavement after the Hyder/Stewart turn off. Stop and consider getting "Hyderized" in Hyder, AK. Very frugal(for Alaska)  room rates at the Sealaska Inn there, low $40 in '04. Hy 37a is splendid road. Gas generally available every 100 miles on the Cassiar.


Laird Hot Springs in northern BC on tha Alcan. Cool place.

Canadians can camp for free on Crown land, foreigners are supposed to pay a $10 fee. Uncertain how the fee works, didn't know about it until we were out of Canada, on the return trip.

Bring bear spray, or get some Bear Bangers.

Do NOT bring a handgun.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: alexx45 on August 09, 2011, 02:03:28 PM
Ain't made it yet but I have plans to make the trip in 2015.  8) I figure that will give me enough time to work out the details.  ;D
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: RIP50AK on August 10, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
Have lived in Alaska for over 50 Years, bought a 2011 Connie new this spring. Have travel to and from Alaska via motorcycle several times over the years but it has been awhile. Most travel in State is pretty straight forward, if you look at a map you will see there are only so many places you can get to by road. Let me know if you have questions.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: DaveO on August 10, 2011, 03:55:33 PM
I went up in '04. Consider the Cassiar Hy in one direction. Nice, no traffic, short sections of good gravel road, mostly chipseal, with pavement after the Hyder/Stewart turn off. Stop and consider getting "Hyderized" in Hyder, AK. Very frugal(for Alaska)  room rates at the Sealaska Inn there, low $40 in '04. Hy 37a is splendid road. Gas generally available every 100 miles on the Cassiar.


Laird Hot Springs in northern BC on tha Alcan. Cool place.

Canadians can camp for free on Crown land, foreigners are supposed to pay a $10 fee. Uncertain how the fee works, didn't know about it until we were out of Canada, on the return trip.

Bring bear spray, or get some Bear Bangers.

Do NOT bring a handgun.

I think i'll just rule out sleeping in a tent if there is any remote chance of bears in the area.
Curious though ,what is bear spray and bear bangers?.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: DaveO on August 10, 2011, 04:01:32 PM
Rode the ferry back from Juneau Alaska to Bellingham Washington, Cost about $800 but when you factor 4 night lodging and 2500 miles worth of gas in it is not as expensive as it seems. I took some beers on and a bottle of Baileys for my coffee and a few snacks. I set my tent up on the deck with all the other bikers so I had good sleeping arrangements. My tent was actually under an overhang so it did not get wet when it rained. The was a couple of places to eat and a bar on board also. There were about 25 or 30 bikes on board so there was lots of story telling. Had a good time and the scenery was fantastic.

an 800 dollar ferry ride??
WOW!!thats one long boat ride.Sounds like fun though
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: DaveO on August 10, 2011, 04:03:00 PM
A guy I know went up there in a small group.  He rode a KLR I believe.   He did go up to the circle.   He did say that if he were going to do it again, he'd ride to Washington and take a boat up to Alaska bypassing Canada rather than riding through it.   Just passing on what he told me.

i'll remember that..
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: DaveO on August 12, 2011, 02:26:58 PM
Rode the ferry back from Juneau Alaska to Bellingham Washington, Cost about $800 but when you factor 4 night lodging and 2500 miles worth of gas in it is not as expensive as it seems. I took some beers on and a bottle of Baileys for my coffee and a few snacks. I set my tent up on the deck with all the other bikers so I had good sleeping arrangements. My tent was actually under an overhang so it did not get wet when it rained. The was a couple of places to eat and a bar on board also. There were about 25 or 30 bikes on board so there was lots of story telling. Had a good time and the scenery was fantastic.

So how long is the ferry ride ? Does it make stops?
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: SteveJ. on August 12, 2011, 07:04:53 PM
I think i'll just rule out sleeping in a tent if there is any remote chance of bears in the area.
Curious though ,what is bear spray and bear bangers?.
Google is your friend.

2 1/2 weeks of tenting, no bear problems. Just have to be smart about it, and lucky.

Something else, it is about the RIDE to AK, kinda defeats the purpose iff'n yer gonna go for a boat ride, JMHO.

Another something else, stuff is expensive up there.

Try to get an old "Milepost" book, it'll clue you in a bit. FWIW, we rarely opened the book once under way, just kinda rolled with the flow, when we saw gas, we bought it.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: valkmc on August 13, 2011, 07:17:32 AM

So how long is the ferry ride ? Does it make stops?
The ferry ride left Juneau at about 5am on Tuesday and arrived in Bellingham on Friday (not sure exact time but in the am). I will say it was not in my plans until the bike malfunctioned (thank you Kawasaki). I will say after riding as far as I did, from Central Florida to Alaska and around Alaska I was OK with the decision to get off the bike for a few days. I still had the ride from Bellingham to Ocala Fl so it wasn't like I was short changing myself. The ferry stopped several times and you could get off if wanted. I checked out Sitka and Ketichan, saw some sites, musems, bars, etc. There were somewhere around 30 bikes on the ferry and it wasnt hard to find their owners, I met all kinds, a young lady on a BMW who rode by herself, a father and his 16 yr old son riding from Alaska to South Carolina, the son on a new 250 kawasaki. We ate lunch  together most days and all spent time in the bar after watching sunsets on deck. Heard lots of stories from riders who have ridden all over the world, Europe, Austraila, as well as US, Alaska, Canada, etc.

I rode around 11,000 in six weeks so the boat ride did not defeat the purpose of the ride in my mind, I did miss the Cassier Highway which is something I wanted to do. I will return for that but I never considered this ride as my last to Alaska. The ride to and back were for me much more enjoyable than riding around Alaska in 55 degree weather and rain everyday for 10 days. I did really enjoy the coast Skagway, Haines, Juneau etc.

I would say the ferry is a personal decision, again I was forced into it but am glad I got to experience it. I had a great time, saw some great scenery and made some friends who I am still in touch with and have offered their homes as future destinations for long rides for me.

Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: lddave on August 14, 2011, 08:49:34 AM
Rode my Honda ST1100 to Hyder in 2001 , I do not consider Hyder to be Alaska it is just British Columbia .
2002 I rode the ST 1100 from Katy, Texas to Fairbanks . Had heard the weather folks mention Moose Jaw , Saskatchewan as being the coldest temperature during weather forecasts so since I had never been there I crossed into Canada south of there. Moteled it the whole trip. Spent a week in Fairbanks sightseeing with my wife . Made the trip up the Haul road. Stopped at the Yukon River bridge ate a very expensive burger there . Guy running the gas station tire store lived not too far from me before he ended up at the Yukon gas station. Stopped at the Artic Circle took a few pictures then used the outhouse there and got rid of the expensive burger. Past Coldfoot it started to rain road got muddy since we were two up on the bike we decided to head back to Fairbanks with a stop at Hot Spot cafe .
2007 went back on the KTM Adventure camped except a few nights.
The metal grading bridges mixed with rain make an interesting surface to ride on . Camp grounds were $15 to $20 a tent per night. Whitehorse has a large campground near the airport that was interesting with all the people from different countries . The bypass around Whitehorse has a truckstop that rents small rooms for a cheap price and the food was good. Tires are expensive riding buddy needed a rear tire and it was $200 for the tire no monting included.
It is a great adventure but expensive and the roads can be difficult but then I can say it was worth going.
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: sherob on August 14, 2011, 08:57:17 AM
I know if riding with Dave, and he says to take the lead cause he's tired... really there are deer and moose ahead...  :rotflmao: :thumbs:

Glad to see ya posting my friend!  ;)
Title: Re: so whos been to alaska on a bike ?
Post by: RIP50AK on August 15, 2011, 11:13:59 AM
On motorcycle trips I rode the Ferry in 1970 up from Saint Rupert to Haines after an extended trip around the lower 48 and then again from Haines to Vancouver Island in 1986 to catch a plane in Vancouver for a motorcycle trip in Europe. The Inside Passage portion (thru the Alaska Southeast archipelago) is very scenic if the weather is good however I am not much for being on the ocean and would probably choose travel by motorcycle now.

If you are camping in public campgrounds there is not much chance of being bothered by bears. Camp close to other campers, be aware of your surroundings, and don’t have any food near your tenting area unless it is totally sealed and bear proof. Black bears do sometimes visit the campground trash and are very curious creatures but again seldom a problem.  I have had them even stick them head in my tent and once an angry mama tried to catch a raft I was drifting a remote river in. The campsite bear ran away as soon as he recognized what I was. If you choose to get some pepper spray as a bear deterrent be sure to get the industrial strength stuff that is sold for that purpose and not something meant for personal protection. That said I don’t go far into the wilderness without bear protection of major caliber.