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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: bob14 on May 11, 2011, 04:37:09 PM

Title: ECU reflash
Post by: bob14 on May 11, 2011, 04:37:09 PM
Don't remember but ....
Who has done this on a 2008 with Area P pipe only.
I'm looking for MPG maybe a little torque change
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: mikeboileau on May 11, 2011, 04:53:43 PM
There was a lot of info here I wish we get back.
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 11, 2011, 05:26:11 PM
You got that right...
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: Dan_from_WA on May 11, 2011, 09:04:05 PM
Hi all.  Relatively new to this forum, just purchased a new 2010 ABS this past January & was following the ECU reflash threads closely, then the forum crashed.  Like you, hoping some of that good info can be retrieved!
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: blue14 on May 11, 2011, 09:29:54 PM
Guhl Motorsports and Dynotronics were the two companies that were seling the reflash.
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: mikeboileau on May 11, 2011, 10:45:55 PM
Guhl Motorsports and Dynotronics were the two companies that were seling the reflash.

And I was really interested in their posts here.  Especially for my 08.

Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: Rhino on May 11, 2011, 11:01:58 PM
Yup, still would like to see some before and after dyno runs on either one.
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: blue14 on May 12, 2011, 05:24:25 AM
I recall someone posting about having their reflash for a 200RPM sooner opening on the flies.  That doesn't seem worth it.
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: bob14 on May 12, 2011, 05:36:43 AM
I recall someone posting about having their reflash for a 200RPM sooner opening on the flies.  That doesn't seem worth it.
For me it might...
The bike comes "pig rich" the reflash cleans all that up. It is supposed to smooth ( the already smooth) throttle response
and torque curve .Sounds like a winner for 2 up . :chugbeer:
The 200RPM earlier was what Joe has in the reflash map he will adjust that to your likes
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: bob14 on May 12, 2011, 05:41:30 AM
From correspondence I had with Joe :

We can sure open the plates sooner, no problems.
 
We do do most of the BMW and other Euro bikes, including all the 2010 ducati's, BMW's, and Aprilias



http://www.dptune.com/ (http://www.dptune.com/)  web
dyno@dptune.com  email

Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: blue14 on May 12, 2011, 06:39:11 AM
From correspondence I had with Joe :

We can sure open the plates sooner, no problems.
 
We do do most of the BMW and other Euro bikes, including all the 2010 ducati's, BMW's, and Aprilias

http://www.dptune.com/ (http://www.dptune.com/)  web
dyno@dptune.com  email

How much sooner?
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: bob14 on May 12, 2011, 07:14:39 AM
it took him a day but shoot him an email. I got good answers to all my questions.
Sounds like a good guy.
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: Afm252 on May 12, 2011, 09:04:46 AM
Gents,
Joe is just down the road in New Braunfels. He stated that the ECU would be turned around in 24hrs. Bottom line: He will map it however you want it to be mapped "customer is always right", however he has the optimized map that he has built through his Dyno. Unknown what modifications were on the bike he used.

$400 bones to get it done for the '08/ '09s. I look to get it done after I replace the more important tires.
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: Conrad on May 12, 2011, 01:57:58 PM
Some of the info from the old site is still available. Follow this link.

Look for the cached link at the end of the URL. It's a pain but what you're looking for might be there.

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=site:concours.org+reflash&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=46498479c777e7ce (http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=site:concours.org+reflash&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=46498479c777e7ce)

Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: Kazairl on May 12, 2011, 02:03:39 PM
I might have missed this in the old thread, Does the ECU have separate maps for each gear like the PCV?
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: Afm252 on May 12, 2011, 02:46:25 PM
Seperate maps only on the '10 and above from what I understand.
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: dynotronics1 on May 12, 2011, 06:53:10 PM
yes they do! 1-2, 3-4 and 5-6 are all different timing curves. The lower two sets are far to mild for the way this bike should run
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: Zman on May 13, 2011, 11:31:34 AM
I was hoping we will see some imperical data back on flies in / flies out / open flies earlier / reflash discussion....... It was an intersting discussion for me that based on the gracious position of "the customer is always right", we can get to the best overall solution without pulling flies.
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: capt chaos on May 21, 2011, 01:21:45 PM
yes they do! 1-2, 3-4 and 5-6 are all different timing curves. The lower two sets are far to mild for the way this bike should run

Hi, finally got my ECU out, unelected Brussels eureaucrats  >:(

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2083/5743124544_8d0ea325a6_b.jpg)

It'll be on it's way to Texas (wherever that is...) Monday. Andy
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: kawasherpa on May 21, 2011, 11:34:48 PM
I have a ATRE, timing retard elimator.  It's about $150.  You have a choice of maps.  I run the top gear map so the flys open using the top gear map in all the gears.  You have choices of which gear map to use.  It also eliminates the top speed shut off.  You can feel the difference in the 60 to 85 MPR range.  More torque.  Fred's site shows how to install.  If you don't like it you can remove it in about 20 minutes.  Rick
Title: Re: ECU reflash
Post by: Wanderlust on May 26, 2011, 03:16:24 PM
I have a ATRE, timing retard elimator.  It's about $150.  You have a choice of maps.  I run the top gear map so the flys open using the top gear map in all the gears.  You have choices of which gear map to use.  It also eliminates the top speed shut off.  You can feel the difference in the 60 to 85 MPR range.  More torque.  Fred's site shows how to install.  If you don't like it you can remove it in about 20 minutes.  Rick

After I installed the GiPRO ATRE, I recall some discussion about the function of timing retarding on the Connie/GTR where Fred mentioned that in fact the ATRE doesn't retard timing on our bikes...?