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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: SVonhof on July 27, 2011, 09:31:22 AM

Title: Oil type
Post by: SVonhof on July 27, 2011, 09:31:22 AM
I don't want this to be an oil bashing thread (Amsoil vs regular) or anything like that.

Just want to know what most people are using. I am coming up on my first oil change (since I have had the bike) and figured I would ask.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: So Cal Joe on July 27, 2011, 10:26:47 AM
When I had my Gold Wing I used Honda oil so in my Kawasaki I use Kawasaki oil. I don't do a lot of miles (only 8000 since I got the bike in November) so extended time between oil changes is not a concern.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: stevewfl on July 27, 2011, 10:30:49 AM
My C14 has seen Mobil1 Motorcycle Race Synth (at 10 bux a quart), Mobil1 Synth, Amsoil, And Rotella T6 Synth all with great results.

Until someone sends their oil in for analysis I wouldn't weigh too heavy on "internet opinions" in an oil thread.

Plus the internet "herd mentality" is about to run wild here  8)
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Mister Tee on July 27, 2011, 10:39:00 AM
Why don't you add a few weight choices for the poll while you're at it?

And maybe the oil change interval?
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: sf bay rider on July 27, 2011, 02:51:56 PM
I'm a unrepentent Amsoil User!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Bash away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: ZG on July 27, 2011, 03:02:21 PM
oil thread...  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: B.D.F. on July 27, 2011, 03:35:13 PM
I don't think a person's weight really changes the oil requirements of the bike.... unless the rider is really, really fat and then they probably need thicker oil.

Brian


Why don't you add a few weight choices for the poll while you're at it?

And maybe the oil change interval?
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: okxd45 on July 27, 2011, 03:40:56 PM
 :popcorn: hee hee.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 27, 2011, 05:50:13 PM
I don't think a person's weight really changes the oil requirements of the bike.... unless the rider is really, really fat and then they probably need thicker oil.

Brian

Totally agree and a beefed up suspension.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on July 27, 2011, 06:29:13 PM
Rotella T6 when it is cool and Rotella 15-40 when it is hot.  I have noticed that the T6 starts to make the clutch feel notchy (hard to engage neutral) after a couple thousand miles.  I have not had that problem with the plain jane 15-40.  Great oil and it is very cheap compared to the big name brands.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: JetJock on July 27, 2011, 07:31:36 PM
Rotella T6 when it is cool and Rotella 15-40 when it is hot.  I have noticed that the T6 starts to make the clutch feel notchy (hard to engage neutral) after a couple thousand miles.  I have not had that problem with the plain jane 15-40.  Great oil and it is very cheap compared to the big name brands.

+1 Rotella. Quality stuff and it's my go-to choice for all my bikes.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: B.D.F. on July 27, 2011, 09:02:24 PM
And if you mix the two 50/50 you will have a great oil for spring and fall.  :D

The old Rotella 5W-40 worked pretty well but this new reformulated stuff (read: reduced ZDDP) has not worked well in my C-14. The shifting is notchy when the oil is new and gets worse pretty quickly. I have had better luck using 15W-40, the regular mineral oil.

Brian

Rotella T6 when it is cool and Rotella 15-40 when it is hot.  I have noticed that the T6 starts to make the clutch feel notchy (hard to engage neutral) after a couple thousand miles.  I have not had that problem with the plain jane 15-40.  Great oil and it is very cheap compared to the big name brands.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on July 27, 2011, 09:05:07 PM
And if you mix the two 50/50 you will have a great oil for spring and fall.  :D

The old Rotella 5W-40 worked pretty well but this new reformulated stuff (read: reduced ZDDP) has not worked well in my C-14. The shifting is notchy when the oil is new and gets worse pretty quickly. I have had better luck using 15W-40, the regular mineral oil.

Brian

Plus the regular 15-40 is $6 cheaper a gallon vs the T6.  That is almost two more gallons of fuel for my bike!
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: stevewfl on July 27, 2011, 09:52:15 PM
Plus the regular 15-40 is $6 cheaper a gallon vs the T6.  That is almost two more gallons of fuel for my bike!

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Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: stevewfl on July 27, 2011, 09:53:33 PM
15-40 <---is it JASO MA rated such as the T6 synth?
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on July 27, 2011, 09:58:24 PM
15-40 <---is it JASO MA rated such as the T6 synth?

Yes it is.  Works great on my wet clutch, but maybe it is just the power of KiPass.........  ;)
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: stevewfl on July 27, 2011, 11:08:39 PM
Yes it is.  Works great on my wet clutch, but maybe it is just the power of KiPass.........  ;)

Thanks! 

Yup, the mad pow-ah of  8)Kipass 8)
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Rick Hall on July 28, 2011, 12:01:46 AM
Mobil-1, 20w-50. Started at about 10k miles (bought the scoot new), have 165k miles now. The other Connie in the shed had ~ 18k miles when I started using Mobil-1 as above, now has 80k+ I change oil/filter at the same time as tires, about every 9k miles. Have gone longer.

I generally like the oil that comes in plastic containers with a screw top. And generally pour the oil into the hole in the engine case. And usually, but not always, so you can see it in the glass thingy in the engine case.

Oil is good, make sure you have some.

Rick
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: C1xRider on July 28, 2011, 12:21:37 AM
From my research last year, the Kawi branded oil is semi-synthetic (Motul 5100).  Of course they can put what ever they want in their bottle, so as SteveWFL says, this is the internet.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: JetJock on July 28, 2011, 07:46:54 AM
15-40 <---is it JASO MA rated such as the T6 synth?

Yes
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Jeremy Mitchell on July 28, 2011, 08:38:22 AM
Yes

Echo Echo Echo
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Rhino on July 28, 2011, 09:08:30 AM
Rotella T6 in my C14, Valkyrie, DR-650, Honda Rincon ATV and Honda Rancher ATV.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: RiderRich on July 28, 2011, 11:04:07 AM
I have always run Mobil1 car oil for years without it causing problems. But I have recently switched to the mobil 1 motorcycle oil. But I noticed that it cost more than the car oil.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: ZedHed on July 28, 2011, 01:31:23 PM
Maxima Extra4 15w-50 oil in my C-14.  It is VERY HOT in NorTX this summer and I feel confident in this stuff.  LOTS of ZDDP and Triple Ester formula -- Woo-hoo !!
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Mister Tee on July 28, 2011, 02:25:18 PM
I will have to say that since I've switched to Motul 300V 10W-40, mileage has increased noticeably, an average of roughly 4 mpg since I switched it out about a month ago.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: stevewfl on July 28, 2011, 03:05:57 PM
I will have to say that since I've switched to Motul 300V 10W-40, mileage has increased noticeably, an average of roughly 4 mpg since I switched it out about a month ago.

Thats huge over an oil brand change, congrats.  What did you change from? Or translation, what oil do i not even want to use in my riding lawn mower (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/iconhammer.gif)
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: stevewfl on July 28, 2011, 03:11:42 PM
Mobil-1, 20w-50. Started at about 10k miles (bought the scoot new), have 165k miles now. The other Connie in the shed had ~ 18k miles when I started using Mobil-1 as above, now has 80k+ I change oil/filter at the same time as tires, about every 9k miles. Have gone longer.

I generally like the oil that comes in plastic containers with a screw top. And generally pour the oil into the hole in the engine case. And usually, but not always, so you can see it in the glass thingy in the engine case.

Oil is good, make sure you have some.

Rick

And its still FAST (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek.gif)
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Pokey on July 29, 2011, 07:28:30 AM
I mix T6 and Castrol 20W50 RS, bike shifts like butter.
Title: Re: Oil type
Post by: Mister Tee on July 29, 2011, 08:55:28 AM
Thats huge over an oil brand change, congrats.  What did you change from? Or translation, what oil do i not even want to use in my riding lawn mower (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/iconhammer.gif)

Not really, I've consistently noticed mileage jumps going from mineral oil to synthetic oil in motorcycles, less so in cars.  But I was using the standard Motul non-synthetic oil before, in the same weight.