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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Peter2011C14 on May 13, 2011, 03:37:33 PM

Title: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Peter2011C14 on May 13, 2011, 03:37:33 PM
For the first time, the "LOW FUEL" warning came on when just a bit before that, "RANGE" indicated 40 -60 miles?

Once Low Fuel was blinking, the display could not be changed?  Is this normal?

When I put fuel in, it took 4.837 gallons which meant I had nearly a gallon left, if the spec of 5.8 gallons is correct.

Peter
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Conrad on May 13, 2011, 03:39:34 PM
Hold the top button in and then press and release the bottom button, then release the top button. The display will go back to normal and the red warning LED will light.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: RBX QB on May 13, 2011, 03:45:21 PM
Hold the top button in and then press and release the bottom button, then release the top button. The display will go back to normal and the red warning LED will light.

You know, I tried that the other day, red light came on, but "LOW FUEL" still kept going. I think it was a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Peter2011C14 on May 13, 2011, 03:50:19 PM
Thanks Conrad.  I will give that a try next time.  Actually, I was only trying the button on the left handlebar behind the other controls.

Peter
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Bob on May 13, 2011, 04:02:16 PM
That's a real good design, now isn't it!  :o
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 13, 2011, 04:45:14 PM
Yes 'Bob', it is.  We loves it we does.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: B.D.F. on May 13, 2011, 05:38:15 PM
ROFLMAO.... slowly but surely Cap'n Bob reverts to his original form. It is like watching a dog pretend he does not want to run over to that fire hydrant.... Bob is putting his very best foot forward but nature will have its way.

ROFLMAO two more times. Welcome back Bob. And a little chuckle.

Brian


That's a real good design, now isn't it!  :o
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: B.D.F. on May 13, 2011, 05:41:03 PM
The "Low Fuel" warning screen that flashes should have gone away. In fact, I do not believe you can have the flashing LCD and the red warning LED on at the same time- it is one or the other. You may still get a low fuel message if you are on the range screen but it should not be the large, flashing warning display. Also, when the warning display is on nothing else can be done with the display- no other pages changed or anything. Once that warning is cleared and the red LED is on you can again control the LCD, set the tripmeters, etc.

Brian

You know, I tried that the other day, red light came on, but "LOW FUEL" still kept going. I think it was a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Bourne2Ride on May 13, 2011, 06:20:58 PM
After you reset the warning via the buttons on the dash the only thing that wont work is the "Range" feature. It will always display "Low Fuel". You can cycle through the other options without issue.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: jjsC6 on May 13, 2011, 07:33:05 PM
That's a real good design, now isn't it!  :o

I'm with Bob.  Why on God's green earth would you design a system that requires you to push and hold one button, then while still holding that button push another button all while riding a motorcycle?  What would be the possible downside to just pushing the one button that scrolls through the readouts?

Every manufacturer does goofy stuff, but I must say that Kawasaki seems especially prone to getting really obvious stuff wrong.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Pokey on May 13, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
The owners manual is quite handy for little tid bits of info like this...................just sayin.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: maxtog on May 13, 2011, 08:31:26 PM
I'm with Bob.  Why on God's green earth would you design a system that requires you to push and hold one button, then while still holding that button push another button all while riding a motorcycle?  What would be the possible downside to just pushing the one button that scrolls through the readouts?

I agree also.  Clearing it is far too difficult and should be something the rider can do from the handlebar button.  Leaving off the remaining range AT A TIME YOU NEED IT MOST is just icing on the cake.  My advice:  zero the A trip when you fill the tank.  Zero the B trip when you get the low fuel message (and clear the damn blinky)... so at least you will know how many miles it has been SINCE you went on virtual "reserve".
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Pynikal on May 13, 2011, 08:40:20 PM
good to know as tis is kind of annoying to me.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Viking on May 14, 2011, 05:24:38 AM
The owners manual is quite handy for little tid bits of info like this...................just sayin.

What's an "owners manual"?   ;)

To be fair, I found this to be annoying also.
Doesn't make me want to sell my bike though.
Cheers
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Conrad on May 14, 2011, 05:51:16 AM
I think that the owner's manual says to pull the bike over and clear the codes. CYA donchaknow?
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: maxtog on May 14, 2011, 07:27:36 AM
I think that the owner's manual says to pull the bike over and clear the codes. CYA donchaknow?

It probably says:  "Remove to the bike on the side.  Depress indicator to happiness whilst move remaining hand to indicator on different location.  Undepress simultaneously until feel of process is complete.  Clear of the code in display will resulting"

:)  LOL!  I just re-read what I wrote- it is golden!  I crack me up!!
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Conrad on May 14, 2011, 07:48:03 AM
It probably says:  "Remove to the bike on the side.  Depress indicator to happiness whilst move remaining hand to indicator on different location.  Undepress simultaneously until feel of process is complete.  Clear of the code in display will result"

:)  LOL!  I just re-read what I wrote- it is golden!  I crack me up!!

You cracked me up too! I really was laughing out loud.    ;D

That manual is some good reading.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Viking on May 14, 2011, 11:10:14 AM
Max, you should take that show on the road.

I work for a Japanese machine tool company.
It's a real challenge trying to figure out the Jinglish some days.

Cheers
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Bob on May 14, 2011, 05:09:30 PM
The really funny part is that in a lot of parts of the manual, this is pretty close to the truth!  ;D

It probably says:  "Remove to the bike on the side.  Depress indicator to happiness whilst move remaining hand to indicator on different location.  Undepress simultaneously until feel of process is complete.  Clear of the code in display will resulting"

:)  LOL!  I just re-read what I wrote- it is golden!  I crack me up!!
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: pb on May 15, 2011, 11:41:59 PM
the same fellow that came up with the 2 button method to clear the message.
Must have  brother that  wrote the code and decided we did not know we are:

 OUTSIDE....    this always tickles me. 

really? naaw....
fellow must have had to have something there and was filling silly.

I  would have never guessed. :-)   
hows about something useful there, like a heat index. 

Feels Like 102   or 112... :-)   

But yes I agree. I have thought this was silly from day one. The message alone is darned silly. The red light would be more than enough.

Maybe the fellow that re-flash's the ECU could do the display next.   :-)
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: tonedeaf on May 16, 2011, 10:57:29 AM
I agree also.  Clearing it is far too difficult and should be something the rider can do from the handlebar button.  Leaving off the remaining range AT A TIME YOU NEED IT MOST is just icing on the cake.  My advice:  zero the A trip when you fill the tank.  Zero the B trip when you get the low fuel message (and clear the damn blinky)... so at least you will know how many miles it has been SINCE you went on virtual "reserve".

I am not sure, but I suspect that the degree of "uncertainty" in the range calculations is why they turn it off -- it might be 15 miles and it might be "cough, sputter, chug..."
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: maxtog on May 16, 2011, 04:32:48 PM
I am not sure, but I suspect that the degree of "uncertainty" in the range calculations is why they turn it off -- it might be 15 miles and it might be "cough, sputter, chug..."

Oh, I am quite sure that is why they did it- they didn't want people relying on it and then complaining when they ran out of gas!  So why not give us an "automatic count-up since reserve" then?
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Pynikal on May 17, 2011, 06:39:09 AM
i tried this this morning and it worked great.  no range mode though just "low fuel".  little red LED comes on and you can still use the LCD display.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: maxtog on May 17, 2011, 05:04:24 PM
i tried this this morning and it worked great.  no range mode though just "low fuel".  little red LED comes on and you can still use the LCD display.

Yeah, it was one of the first questions I asked or maybe answers discovered on the previous (exploded) forum.  I tried everything to clear the damn distracting and infuriating LOW FUEL message before discovering the solution from the forum (which is, shall we say, far from intuitive).  Gotta love the forum!

At least we don't have to press the brake, honk the horn three times, activate the left turn signal, press three buttons at once, and then flash the high-beams to clear the warning.  So think of the bright side!  :)
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Viking on May 18, 2011, 02:01:36 PM

At least we don't have to press the brake, honk the horn three times, activate the left turn signal, press three buttons at once, and then flash the high-beams to clear the warning.  So think of the bright side!  :)


That's for setting the time on the digital clock.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: Pynikal on May 18, 2011, 04:42:55 PM
At least we don't have to press the brake, honk the horn three times, activate the left turn signal, press three buttons at once, and then flash the high-beams to clear the warning.  So think of the bright side!  :)


i have a headache now........... :o
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: maxtog on May 18, 2011, 04:58:32 PM

i have a headache now........... :o

Well, I have seen some pretty similar ridiculous yet similar gyrations listed in factory car manuals for setting different options or controlling the electronics in the car.
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: jjsC6 on May 18, 2011, 05:58:21 PM
Yeah, it was one of the first questions I asked or maybe answers discovered on the previous (exploded) forum.  I tried everything to clear the damn distracting and infuriating LOW FUEL message before discovering the solution from the forum (which is, shall we say, far from intuitive).  Gotta love the forum!

At least we don't have to press the brake, honk the horn three times, activate the left turn signal, press three buttons at once, and then flash the high-beams to clear the warning.  So think of the bright side!  :)

All that and you still have to turn sideways and cough! :o
Title: Re: Low Fuel indicater disables other computer functions?
Post by: B.D.F. on May 18, 2011, 06:18:06 PM
I don't think that guy is part of the LCD dash warning system Jim. You have to be careful who's directions you follow....

 ;)

Brian


All that and you still have to turn sideways and cough! :o