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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Charliedog on July 17, 2021, 08:25:08 AM

Title: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: Charliedog on July 17, 2021, 08:25:08 AM

The fork seals on my 2013 C14 are leaking, and yes, I've tried the Fork Doctor, so I plan on removing the forks to have the oil seals replaced.  In the service manual it says to remove the handlebar holders from the upper triple.  I have to ask why Kawasaki says that-if it's only for access to the fork caps so they can be loosened before the tubes are removed from the bike, then I don't have to do it-my bike has risers and bar backs, so the caps are accessible.
If there is any other reason to remove the handle bars, let me know.  TIA

Title: Re: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: maxtog on July 17, 2021, 08:41:19 AM

When I was examining the procedure, I wondered the same thing.

Title: Re: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: zrx mitch on July 17, 2021, 08:51:46 AM

No.

Title: Re: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: lather on July 17, 2021, 03:37:50 PM

Mitch is correct, no reason at all to remove the handlebars. just loosen the upper and lower clamps. People have reported stripping the lower clamp bolts as they are awkward to access. I find it worth the trouble to remove the three bolts that hold the horn and the black plastic piece. This gives you better access to the lower clamp bolts. Once the clamp bolts are loose the lower clamps still have a good grip on the forks. A large flat blade screw driver to wedge the clamp open slightly will let the tube slide right out.

Title: Re: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: Charliedog on July 17, 2021, 06:46:38 PM

Thanks for the replies, and especially lather for the tip.

Title: Re: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: jwolffie on July 25, 2021, 09:17:51 PM

These will let you access the bolts without removing anything above the front wheel and fender.
https://www.amazon.com/OrionMotorTech-Ratcheting-Wrench-Metric-Extended/dp/B06XWRKQ4H/ref=sr_1_33?crid=AGQIA4CMFX0L&dchild=1&keywords=flex+head+beam+wrench+ratcheting&qid=1627269292&sprefix=flex+head+beam+wrench%2Caps%2C421&sr=8-33 (https://www.amazon.com/OrionMotorTech-Ratcheting-Wrench-Metric-Extended/dp/B06XWRKQ4H/ref=sr_1_33?crid=AGQIA4CMFX0L&dchild=1&keywords=flex+head+beam+wrench+ratcheting&qid=1627269292&sprefix=flex+head+beam+wrench%2Caps%2C421&sr=8-33)

Title: Re: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: Charliedog on July 26, 2021, 10:02:25 AM

That's a nice idea for a wrench set, but it needs a bit more thought.  The common sizes, 8 and 10, or 12 and 14 mm should not be on the same wrench.  I have yet to see a 9 or 11 mm, or a 13 mm anything outside of Italian accessories.  Just saying.....

Title: Re: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: maxtog on July 26, 2021, 04:04:47 PM

When I was looking in there a while ago, it looked like a regular socket wrench might work, if the socket is shallow enough.  A box-end would certainly work, but would take a long time :)

Speed wrenches (as mentioned) can be handy.  I only have ONE, a 16mm, because I bought it to deal with a frustrating engine mount on the C14.  Worked very well.  Probably should have gotten a whole set.

Title: Re: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: kzz1king on July 26, 2021, 08:21:59 PM

I used a 6 point socket....carefully! Bottoms were  tight. Replaced with Allen heads

Title: Re: Do the handle bars really have to be removed to remove the fork tubes on a C14?
Post by: maxtog on July 27, 2021, 12:00:48 AM

Quote from: kzz1king on July 26, 2021, 08:21:59 PM

I used a 6 point socket....carefully! Bottoms were  tight.

Although I have only 1 speed wrench, I did obtain a set of 6 point sockets not long ago.