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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: jwolffie on April 25, 2021, 11:11:52 PM

Title: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on April 25, 2021, 11:11:52 PM
Well, my 2011 got hit by a truck and all of the front and side plastic is broken but it saved the rest of the bike, engine, forks and frame and wheels are all still good. I think I will pull all of the broken parts off and make it a naked bike. Has anyone tried this before?
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: maxtog on April 26, 2021, 05:22:40 AM
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Has anyone tried this before?

Not that I know of.  That would be quite a project...
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on April 26, 2021, 07:07:05 AM
I guess I will start by removing the broken bits and see what I have left
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: Boomer on April 26, 2021, 08:09:28 AM
I'd love to see a real nekkid C14.  8)
All the pics online are photoshop or similar  ::) and don't include all the wiring/plumbing that is under that fairing.
Simplifying/re-routing it ain't gonna be simple.
Watching  :popcorn:
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: maxtog on April 26, 2021, 03:37:04 PM
I'd love to see a real nekkid C14.  8)

Me too, would be an interesting, if not insanely complex project.... at least, if you want to make it look at all reasonable.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on May 01, 2021, 02:47:31 PM
Here is what I am starting with:
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Post by: jwolffie on May 01, 2021, 02:48:35 PM
more photos
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Post by: jwolffie on May 01, 2021, 02:49:24 PM
here are the removed bits with some reuse value:
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on May 01, 2021, 02:50:05 PM
Nothing to save here
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Post by: jwolffie on May 01, 2021, 02:52:59 PM
Here is what I am left with, I ordered a new radiator, overflow tank, and a used foot peg from Ebay. It should run after that.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on May 01, 2021, 02:53:47 PM
The other views
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on May 01, 2021, 02:58:20 PM
It will be a bit of a project but I think it can be done. I need to fabricate a box or something to hold the headlights and the cold air intake. I will try and move the wiring closer to the frame and make some type of sheet metal covers to bolt on and cover the wiring. Can't afford to fix it right and can't afford another bike.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: Boomer on May 02, 2021, 04:25:31 PM
Strangely narrow sidebags. Was it a Police model C14P?
Looks a mess but hope it'll run for ya.
Did the truck hit it whilst parked?
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on May 02, 2021, 05:02:17 PM
I had the bags cut down like the police bags, splits lanes much better. They are strong too, the right side inner bag exploded but the lid is just scuffed.
I was on the bike, we made left turns into each other, both leaving driveways onto the street. I had on all the gear and just ended up with a sprained knee.

I ordered most of the parts I need today. I also have access to a metal shop for the remodel. It may turn out looking half way decent when it is done.

I have 2 3.5" LED weatherproof projector headlights ordered, and I found my copper dawg windscreen which I can hard mount because the $700 headlight motor assembly is bent. Going to make some short upper covers from sheet metal to hide the wiring and relays on the sides of the bike. Just have to fabricate a new nose piece to hold the ram air intake, the new headlights, and the windscreen. Going to run stock mirrors, no lower cowl, and no front fender.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: Pilgrim on May 03, 2021, 04:49:07 AM

Very interesting project.  I can't wait to see how it comes out.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: Boomer on May 04, 2021, 02:58:06 AM
I was on the bike, we made left turns into each other, both leaving driveways onto the street. I had on all the gear and just ended up with a sprained knee.
Glad it wasn't more serious.  ;D
Looking forward to see what ya come up with.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: Danger4u2 on June 29, 2021, 06:27:05 PM
How's the project coming along?
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: angelo on July 01, 2021, 12:13:40 PM
Some thoughts - bottom looks cleaner to start than top.  Wonder if some sort of bikini fairing or even just a top fairing like sv650 or ninja 500 would work to hide a lot of the wiring - not necessarily those, but that top quarter or third look.   

Dash too big and has to go.  Lights too big and have to go.  Right?
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on July 03, 2021, 09:19:46 AM
I gave up on naked, just too much wiring and such. I am going street fighter mode now. I found some new headlights, LED 3 inch lights for bus/motorhome and have them mounted now. I am making a new front cowl out of sheet metal and my old copper dawg windscreen. The windscreen adjuster was totaled so it will be fixed mounted. I'm building upper side covers to hide the wiring from sheet metal, they will only go down as far as the side of the cylinder head. I painted the new radiator side tanks black, and the coolant tank too because they will be uncovered.
Here is a photo of the new headlights.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on July 04, 2021, 11:23:44 AM
more photos
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Post by: ginzburg on July 04, 2021, 11:57:28 AM
Is there a specific piece on the windshield mechanism that is broken or bent?
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: maxtog on July 04, 2021, 12:59:36 PM
more photos

Yeah, it is not pretty under the fairings.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on July 05, 2021, 08:37:53 AM
Is there a specific piece on the windshield mechanism that is broken or bent?

The arms that hold the windshield bent, it is a fairly expensive assembly.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on July 11, 2021, 11:41:51 AM
windscreen mock up and headlights on
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: Pilgrim on July 12, 2021, 08:58:29 AM

Adding that blue bottle on the table to the right?    :thumbs:
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: maxtog on July 12, 2021, 03:04:00 PM
Adding that blue bottle on the table to the right?    :thumbs:

LOL- I was wondering the same thing yesterday when I saw it.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on July 12, 2021, 08:01:42 PM
The bottle is for one of the 4 wheel projects, I would need another re-flash to let the bike breathe that.
The new headlights are much brighter than I thought they would be, especially for lights with a 3 inch lens.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on July 25, 2021, 09:30:48 PM
this is a very slow project because I only have 6 hours a week to work on it
I got a sheet of cold rolled steel and started on a prototype. I creased it between the headlights so it wont be totally flat on the front. I beat the bends with a hammer and leather sand bag, I got a chance to try out the English wheel too to start smoothing it out. It is extra wide because I want to wrap it around the top of the dash and around the sides to mount under the mirrors. So far not bad for a first try to see what happens.
I'm going to use 2 1/2 inch muffler pipe from the engine air intake boots to openings in the front of the cowl next to the headlights, I was going to use the factory intake ducts but this will work much better.
You can also see my new windscreen mounts.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: 819sebas on September 22, 2021, 05:34:16 AM
Im going naked too, lot of work!
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on September 26, 2021, 01:03:36 PM
I took a weeks vacation at work because I want to get it rideable. I scrapped the first design, I could not make it symmetrical so i started over. the project went from what I wanted to do to what I could make in a week. I made this one out of 4 pieces that I welded together. I made them mirror images of each other to keep it symmetrical, two front pieces and 2 side pieces just for the front section. I had to make it taller than I wanted to get the air intakes to fit, and I decided to use some 2 1/2 inch to 3 inch header collectors I had laying around for some velocity stacks for the intake air. The 3 inch LED bus headlights are super bright and have a great pattern on the road. I added some amber LED's on the front forks for added visibility. My Copper Dawg windshield was all I had left so that got used too. I still need to find a right side saddle bag because the back side of it exploded in the crash but the cover survived. Of course that is the only piece they don't sell by it's self.
The next project is replacing the very long radiator hose on the right side of the bike with some custom bent steel tube that is shorter and higher up. I also need to build the side and upper covers to cover the wiring mess. They will also be smaller pieces welded together because the fabrication is much easier. I am using 20 guage steel, very strong and light but still easy to bend and holds its shape well.
The bike drives great still, it goes straight and has no wobbles so all is well there. It actually seems to make even more power on the freeway now with the unrestricted ram air..
I don't think it is possible to make it a naked bike, there is just too much wiring and stuff to deal with. It may not be as pretty as it used to be but at least I can still ride it now. It has kind of a Mad Max/Frankenstein styling now.
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: jwolffie on September 26, 2021, 01:05:10 PM
more photos
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Post by: jwolffie on September 26, 2021, 01:12:54 PM
headlights
Title: Re: naked 1400?
Post by: Boomer on September 26, 2021, 04:21:00 PM
Very Transformer-esque.  ;)
FatNinjaTron?  :rotflmao:
Strangely I like it.
For MadMax you will need to paint it matt black.