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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Summit670 on November 11, 2017, 01:52:35 PM

Title: What to look for used c14
Post by: Summit670 on November 11, 2017, 01:52:35 PM
Thinking about another concours. Sold my 87 connie which I had since new, earlier this summer. Been riding my Yamaha Raider but miss the weather protection and bags.

Have not followed c14 forum much. Things I have read:
Fobs - make sure to get two with bike, they are pricey
Heated hand grips - std starting in 2010, and I definitely want these
Fairing vents - in 2010 the fairing has more venting

Valve adjustments - 16k intervals. Shop cost $600-800.  PIA to do youself but possible with adequate patience. I performed my own adjusments on the c10 but the 14 doesnt thrill me at all because of the tedius nature of the job.

Tires - seems like 5-8k is typical
TPMS - sounds like earlier versions had a battery which could be fairly easily replace. Later versions probably not. Kinda pricey but should last 5-10 years depending upon use.  Must use Kaw tpms cause it communicates with computer and is proprietary.

Is this accurate info and what else should I watch for or beware of on a 2010 or newer concours?
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: connie_rider on November 11, 2017, 03:28:59 PM
Try to get one that is still under warranty, has an extended warranty, or find out if you can buy the extended warranty.

Oh, and,,, watch to see if you can find one with Steve's Flash already in it..
Lots of good deals on the COG Forum, and many have his flash.

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: B.D.F. on November 11, 2017, 05:01:31 PM
Yes, excellent, most of that seems exactly right.

The windshield vent appeared much later than 2010, 2016 I think but am not sure. There have been two basic generations of C-14, Gen. 1 2008 and 09' only, and Gen. 2, 2010 through 2018 so far. But there have been a few more minor changes on the Gen. 2 bikes: 2010 still had ABS optional, 2011 and later it is standard. Around 2012 or 2013 the front rotor carriers were changed, and this seems to have gone a long way toward stopping rotor warpage, a problem on earlier bikes. The rotors interchange through all years though.

As Ted already said, try to get a used bike still under warranty because you can extend it for three years for under $400, and that is a great buy in most people's opinions it seems (it is IMO). And the warranty can be extended a maximum of twice, for a total of 9 years under unlimited mileage warrantee, not too shabby at all.

Tire miles varies somewhat more than what you mention and it appears that those of us in the northern US get more tire miles than those in the southern US. I can get 16K out of a set of Michelin Pilot Road 2 and 3's with tread still showing on both tires.

But it seems you have an excellent handle on this bike. Most owners seem to like it and overall, they have proven pretty robust and reliable with a few stand- out exceptions that the warranty would take care of. I would not and have not hesitated to hop on mine and run it to the other coast and back more than once without a single hiccup.

Brian

Thinking about another concours. Sold my 87 connie which I had since new, earlier this summer. Been riding my Yamaha Raider but miss the weather protection and bags.

Have not followed c14 forum much. Things I have read:
Fobs - make sure to get two with bike, they are pricey
Heated hand grips - std starting in 2010, and I definitely want these
Fairing vents - in 2010 the fairing has more venting

Valve adjustments - 16k intervals. Shop cost $600-800.  PIA to do youself but possible with adequate patience. I performed my own adjusments on the c10 but the 14 doesnt thrill me at all because of the tedius nature of the job.

Tires - seems like 5-8k is typical
TPMS - sounds like earlier versions had a battery which could be fairly easily replace. Later versions probably not. Kinda pricey but should last 5-10 years depending upon use.  Must use Kaw tpms cause it communicates with computer and is proprietary.

Is this accurate info and what else should I watch for or beware of on a 2010 or newer concours?
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: Summit670 on November 12, 2017, 07:29:30 AM
Thanks for the feedback.   

Sounds like an extened warranty can be extended one time.  I didnt know that.  Seems like these bikes are pretty rock solid as llong as they have been maintained. 

I spotted a 2011 with approx 16k.  I have not inqiured but assume the valve check/adjust has not been done. Also not sure about warrany.  Even it it had one and could be extended, I would probably be safe in not getting it and apply that money toward a valve adjustment.  I would also ask the mechanic to provide me a before/ after shim chart.  Hmmm
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: gPink on November 12, 2017, 09:21:10 AM
Try to ride one with linked brakes before you decide. Seems like a split decision on liking the system.
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: Summit670 on November 12, 2017, 09:32:28 AM
Are linked brakes an option on the c14 after 2010?
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: gPink on November 12, 2017, 09:37:50 AM
standard..... no option
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: maxtog on November 12, 2017, 10:03:18 AM
Also no big deal for most people.  Some find it annoying, though.   The linking was reduced in 2015.
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: B.D.F. on November 12, 2017, 06:29:00 PM
And it can be defeated on all year C-14's but that takes some re- plumbing, a full system empty and re-fill, and these things can be truly pesky to bleed the hydraulics. But it can be done relatively cheaply if you can do yourself.

Brian

Also no big deal for most people.  Some find it annoying, though.   The linking was reduced in 2015.
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: B.D.F. on November 12, 2017, 06:30:20 PM
Just to be sure I follow you, the warranty can be extended two times, for between 1 and 3 years each time. The bike comes new with a 3 year warranty, so the max. time under warranty is 9 years with unlimited mileage.

Brian

Thanks for the feedback.   

Sounds like an extened warranty can be extended one time.  I didnt know that.  Seems like these bikes are pretty rock solid as llong as they have been maintained. 

I spotted a 2011 with approx 16k.  I have not inqiured but assume the valve check/adjust has not been done. Also not sure about warrany.  Even it it had one and could be extended, I would probably be safe in not getting it and apply that money toward a valve adjustment.  I would also ask the mechanic to provide me a before/ after shim chart.  Hmmm
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: mikeyw64 on November 13, 2017, 12:17:58 AM
Also no big deal for most people.  Some find it annoying, though.   The linking was reduced in 2015.

Not ridden a linked GTR/C14 however I have ridden many linked Hondas and TBH if I hadn't known they were linked I probably wouldn't have known
Title: Re: What to look for used c14
Post by: Summit670 on November 13, 2017, 05:41:48 AM
Good to know on the linked brakes.  I have never ridden one. I have always bled my own brakes but wouldnt anticipate replumbing to disable because I like to stay pretty much oem on the mechanical end unless something really needs to be upgraded.