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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: 2talltim on February 05, 2017, 09:22:14 AM

Title: Fork Springs
Post by: 2talltim on February 05, 2017, 09:22:14 AM
Does anyone make a heavier fork spring than the 1.2kg/mm stockers? Im about to service my forks and thought since im in there i'd do some upgrades. Racetech recommends 1.4kg/mm springs for a rider my weight but does not sell them. Anyone know of any out there?
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 05, 2017, 12:05:33 PM
Might be easier to lose some weight..
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: gPink on February 05, 2017, 12:33:42 PM
Try Traxxion.... http://www.traxxion.com/ (http://www.traxxion.com/)
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: zarticus on February 05, 2017, 05:14:59 PM
Might be easier to lose some weight..
:nuts:
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: 2talltim on February 06, 2017, 10:31:51 AM
Might be easier to lose some weight..
I've actually have already lost 65 lbs in the last 11 months. But currently I'm still 240lbs with gear on.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: zarticus on February 06, 2017, 10:53:50 AM
I've actually have already lost 65 lbs in the last 11 months. But currently I'm still 240lbs with gear on.
Ignore the insult, It was uncalled for  :thumbdown
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: gPink on February 06, 2017, 11:45:07 AM
I took it as an attempt at humor.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 06, 2017, 01:30:46 PM
It was.  I'm in the same boat.

I find humor, sarcasm, and cynicism in everything.   Whether called or not called for and will continue to do so.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: 2talltim on February 06, 2017, 01:45:07 PM
No insult taken I actually tried to post another comment and crack a joke back but the site kept crashing on me earlier.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 06, 2017, 01:58:19 PM
I looked at the traxxion site and found the springs but how the heck do you figure out which one you need?
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: 2talltim on February 06, 2017, 02:01:26 PM
I looked at the traxxion site and found the springs but how the heck do you figure out which one you need?
There is a spring rate calculator on the racetech page. I'd post a link but I'm on my phone right now and I'm pretty sure it requires a flash player.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: 2talltim on February 06, 2017, 02:02:41 PM
Here is the link .. but like I said it probably won't work on a phone

http://racetech.com/ChooseVehicle.aspx (http://racetech.com/ChooseVehicle.aspx)
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: gPink on February 06, 2017, 02:13:11 PM
If it was me, I'd call Traxxion and ask.  ::)
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 06, 2017, 02:14:48 PM
Yeah, I'm familiar with that.  Here's what came up:

1.367kg/mm  Then they give you all kinds of options but not a spring per se..

Have you changed your fork fluid lately? Ok, I see you're getting ready to do that.  I've found that dirty fluid makes the suspension harsher.  It did with mine.  Course if you want it harsher then you could use the next weight up oil or play with the levels.
What symptoms are you having with the bike that makes you think the suspension needs to be beefed up?
Where are the adjustments set on the front?

BTW, systems are back up and nominal.  Insult away...  If it goes down again when you try to insult me....what can I say....the system is in self preservation mode.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 06, 2017, 02:15:27 PM
If it was me, I'd call Traxxion and ask.  ::)

That's too fricken easy, Gary.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: 2talltim on February 06, 2017, 02:22:55 PM
I just know I have her cracked down as tight as she will go and I keep a zip tie on my fork tube and they still bottom out. Being a 2008 and still have the original fluid in there I'm definitely going to change that out but while I have it apart I just want to do anything I can that will improve the handling instead of having to do it again later. So I'm just looking at what my options are. Not necessarily dissatisfied with the way handles but just curious if it could be better.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 06, 2017, 02:29:15 PM
It can always be better.  I think that GPINK has a good idea (much as I hate to admit it) about calling Traxxion and talking to them before you do anything.  May be worth it to have them R&R your forks.  I'm not bottoming out (easy boys) on mine....yet.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: gPink on February 06, 2017, 02:45:36 PM
Soooo, is that another attempt at humor?
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 06, 2017, 02:51:02 PM
 :rotflmao: Possibly.  Of course it could be an insult.  One never knows around here.  You could always report me to me if you want. 
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: gPink on February 06, 2017, 03:08:45 PM
 ;D Report to moderator Done
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: VirginiaJim on February 06, 2017, 04:39:16 PM
Moderator received!  Done.

File 13'd.  Done.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: maxtog on February 09, 2017, 04:31:52 PM
Moderator received!  Done.

File 13'd.  Done.

Negative karma applied!!
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: Steve in Sunny Fla on February 09, 2017, 06:08:33 PM
 I have the traxxion ak20 cartridges in the forks, and with the suggested settings and 1.2 springs I can drive a zip tie to the bottom of the forks. I cranked in some compression damping, which stopped that and stopped the brake dive. The ride is not harsh AT ALL and hugely more controlled than the stock suspension was. there definitely is something to be said for improved suspension. Steve
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: PlaynInPeoria on February 10, 2017, 03:00:22 PM
I had Traxxion put AK20's and redo my shock in my Speed Triple.  The stock suspension is damper rod in front and basically an uncompressible strut in the back.  It rode TERRIBLY, very stiff, very rough, wouldn't follow the road, hit a few bumps in the corner and it headed for the ditch.  My C14 and my FZ1 tracked superbly.

I spent $1600 and shipped it off.   3 iterations later (remove shock, not easy. Ship off.  Get back, remount, still bad, repeat), I gave up.  The front is nice now but the rear is STILL too stiff.  AFTER 3 freaking shots at it, me telling them every time, "IT's TOO STIFF, make it softer".  Still pisses me off.

There is a guy named Dan there that is awesome but the actual owner Max is a monster.  I wish I could give a better recommendation, I cannot.

Yes, it's assembled, greased and torqued properly.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: 2talltim on February 10, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
Sent traxxion a email via thier site at the beginning of the week and still have gotten a reply. No phone listed on thier site.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: PlaynInPeoria on February 12, 2017, 03:06:49 PM
Try this guy.  dan@traxxion.com

Make DAMN sure you tell them exactly what you want.
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: Riverszzr on February 12, 2017, 05:26:45 PM
770-592-3823

It is right on their website.

Dan is the guy to talk to (most helpful anyways)
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: Riverszzr on February 12, 2017, 05:27:16 PM
http://www.traxxion.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=content.map&mapTypeID=112 (http://www.traxxion.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=content.map&mapTypeID=112)

Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: 2talltim on February 13, 2017, 06:57:19 AM
Guess i missed it the first time. Still kind of crap they cant return a email after week. I'll try to call later today or tomorrow
Title: Re: Fork Springs
Post by: woody64 on March 01, 2017, 09:44:26 PM
I've actually have already lost 65 lbs in the last 11 months. But currently I'm still 240lbs with gear on.

Awesome on the weight loss... Congratulations