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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: MAXPWR on September 15, 2016, 07:33:24 PM

Title: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: MAXPWR on September 15, 2016, 07:33:24 PM
I just bought Connie with zero miles a few days ago (150 on it now) loving it.

When I let go of handle bars she pulls to the right. It's not the crown in the road either because it still does it on a flat road. Tire pressure is 40.

So much so that in an estimated 100-150 feet at 40ish mph, I'd be in the ditch.

My 09 VMAX did the same thing (Bridgestones) and when I needed new rubber up front, I bought Metzelers and never had that problem again.

Is this common? Is there an adjustment? Just orderd throttle lock and would love to use it.

 
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: gPink on September 15, 2016, 07:51:37 PM
Put the bike on the center stand and weight the rear so the front wheel is off the ground. You want to swivel the front end side to side checking for any obstruction to free movement paying attention to cables and brake lines to make sure there is no drag. you'll also want to spin the wheel to check if a brake caliper is dragging.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: MAXPWR on September 15, 2016, 07:59:53 PM
I'll try that. I forgot to mention, whether it's related or not, I can hear what seems to be a sound from the front tire as I'm slowing down...as if it had aggressive nobbies like a dirt tire. Is that normal on a new Bridgestone?
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: tjhess74 on September 15, 2016, 08:11:15 PM
All of my bikes have pulled to the left. I figure it's me...somehow.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: connie14boy on September 15, 2016, 09:08:55 PM
I just bought Connie with zero miles a few days ago (150 on it now) loving it.

When I let go of handle bars she pulls to the right. It's not the crown in the road either because it still does it on a flat road. Tire pressure is 40.

So much so that in an estimated 100-150 feet at 40ish mph, I'd be in the ditch.

My 09 VMAX did the same thing (Bridgestones) and when I needed new rubber up front, I bought Metzelers and never had that problem again.

Is this common? Is there an adjustment? Just orderd throttle lock and would love to use it.

I agree with gPink, but also do yourself and the bike a favor and get a decent set of tires like PR4's or Pirelli Angels. The stock 021 Crapstones are the worst tires I have ever encountered and almost made me sell my bike until I threw them in the dumpster along with the black bazooka exhaust. I bought a set of PR's and a Vance and Hines CS-1 pipe- now I'm happy, and have over 75,000 trouble free miles.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 16, 2016, 03:54:21 AM
It's still under warranty.  Take it to a dealer and have them fix it.  Could be a bad tire, could be something mechanical not adjusted correctly.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: Conrad on September 16, 2016, 05:04:05 AM
I just bought Connie with zero miles a few days ago (150 on it now) loving it.

When I let go of handle bars she pulls to the right. It's not the crown in the road either because it still does it on a flat road. Tire pressure is 40.

So much so that in an estimated 100-150 feet at 40ish mph, I'd be in the ditch.

My 09 VMAX did the same thing (Bridgestones) and when I needed new rubber up front, I bought Metzelers and never had that problem again.

Is this common? Is there an adjustment? Just orderd throttle lock and would love to use it.

Maybe your alignment is off?     ;)
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: sailor_chic on September 16, 2016, 10:13:21 AM
Put more air in the right side of the tires
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on September 16, 2016, 01:46:33 PM
its a brand new bike... return it to the dealer, have them ride it and fix it.
Pretty much a no brainer.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: Rhino on September 16, 2016, 03:43:50 PM
Put more air in the right side of the tires

 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: Cuda on September 16, 2016, 09:01:56 PM
Move your butt to the left , but stay on the seat ... :finger_fing11:

Look Mom no hands
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: Ron Dawg on September 17, 2016, 05:43:27 AM
Entertaining comments, but seriously folks....  ;) what causes this? Does he have a warped wheel, a mis-mounted tire, mis-aligned forks? I agree that a new bike ought to go back to the dealer and say WTH?
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on September 17, 2016, 11:48:39 AM
Entertaining comments, but seriously folks....  ;) what causes this? Does he have a warped wheel, a mis-mounted tire, mis-aligned forks? I agree that a new bike ought to go back to the dealer and say WTH?

Seriously, how could any person here know?????????
Could be 100 different things, anything imaginable...
Are we supposed to make a.list?
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: VirginiaJim on September 17, 2016, 06:27:40 PM
I'm thinking tire issues at the moment, but I'm tired and could be wrong.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: Ron Dawg on September 17, 2016, 06:28:35 PM
Might be helpful. He obviously doesn't know what it might be.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: MAXPWR on October 25, 2016, 07:40:25 PM
Here's what the problem WAS concerning my original post here:
I only have about 650 miles so far and am LOVING this bike (other than the annoying drifting off the road). I recently installed the 2" bar risers and looked closely at where each fork passes thru the triple tree and noticed that the left fork was almost 1/8" proud of the triple tree, whereas the right side was less than 1/32" proud of it. Again... The bike had been pulling to the right... (you'd be in the ditch after about 100 feet). So I adjusted right side (triple tree and fork mounts) to match left side.
GTR now tracks straight as an arrow  --------->     :)
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: connie14boy on October 25, 2016, 07:46:09 PM
Here's what the problem WAS concerning my original post here:
I only have about 650 miles so far and am LOVING this bike (other than the annoying drifting off the road). I recently installed the 2" bar risers and looked closely at where each fork passes thru the triple tree and noticed that the left fork was about +3/32" proud of the triple tree, whereas the right side was only  - 1/32" proud of it. Again... the bike had been pulling to the right... (you'd be in the ditch after about 100 feet). So I adjusted right side (fork mounts) to match left side.
GTR now pulls straight as an arror  --------->     :)

WTHeck is that again?? :o
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: MAXPWR on October 25, 2016, 08:16:09 PM
Yep, I could instantly tell as soon as I got on a nice straight, flat road (some of which it is crowned and some flat) I road no hands (which i could never do b4) for at least 2 miles as I engaged my newly installed Vista Cruise and sat perfectly upright on the seat (which is getting swapped with Sargent Low next week).
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: maxtog on October 25, 2016, 08:17:39 PM
Cool!  Glad you figured it out and it was super simple!
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: Rhino on October 26, 2016, 07:17:40 AM
Here's what the problem WAS concerning my original post here:
I only have about 650 miles so far and am LOVING this bike (other than the annoying drifting off the road). I recently installed the 2" bar risers and looked closely at where each fork passes thru the triple tree and noticed that the left fork was almost 1/8" proud of the triple tree, whereas the right side was less than 1/32" proud of it. Again... The bike had been pulling to the right... (you'd be in the ditch after about 100 feet). So I adjusted right side (triple tree and fork mounts) to match left side.
GTR now tracks straight as an arrow  --------->     :)

Good info. If I ever have such a problem this will be one of the first things I look for.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: Classvino on October 26, 2016, 08:28:24 AM
Here's what the problem WAS concerning my original post here:
I only have about 650 miles so far and am LOVING this bike (other than the annoying drifting off the road). I recently installed the 2" bar risers and looked closely at where each fork passes thru the triple tree and noticed that the left fork was almost 1/8" proud of the triple tree, whereas the right side was less than 1/32" proud of it. Again... The bike had been pulling to the right... (you'd be in the ditch after about 100 feet). So I adjusted right side (triple tree and fork mounts) to match left side.
GTR now tracks straight as an arrow  --------->     :)

So it came from the dealer like that?  Pretty sloppy on their part.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: MAXPWR on October 26, 2016, 03:56:17 PM
Yes it came from the dealer like that. Fortunately or unfortunately, I am never surprised to see things like that anymore from anyone these days.  :'(

Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: maxtog on October 26, 2016, 04:12:35 PM
Yes it came from the dealer like that. Fortunately or unfortunately, I am never surprised to see things like that anymore from anyone these days.  :'(

Yeah, it is typically the headlights pointed into the ground, battery installed in holder backwards, loose battery connections, lost passive fob, grossly over and/or under-inflated tires, fluids not at correct levels, something pre-scratched....  All that stuff we pay gobs of money for "dealer prep" or "dealer setup".
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: Ron Dawg on October 26, 2016, 05:29:31 PM
Here's what the problem WAS concerning my original post here:
I only have about 650 miles so far and am LOVING this bike (other than the annoying drifting off the road). I recently installed the 2" bar risers and looked closely at where each fork passes thru the triple tree and noticed that the left fork was almost 1/8" proud of the triple tree, whereas the right side was less than 1/32" proud of it. Again... The bike had been pulling to the right... (you'd be in the ditch after about 100 feet). So I adjusted right side (triple tree and fork mounts) to match left side.
GTR now tracks straight as an arrow  --------->     :)

What does "proud" mean?
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: VirginiaJim on October 26, 2016, 05:34:44 PM
Just a guess, mind you, but I believe that it was 1/8th inch higher than where the triple tree sits.  I've heard of different things causing a pull but this is new.

Thanks for letting us know what you found.   :thumbs: :goodpost:
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: MAXPWR on October 26, 2016, 08:08:43 PM
What does "proud" mean?

A pop-rivet sits approx. 1/16" "proud" of the sheet metal it is riveted to.
It's  about the dictionary's fifth definition down when looking up PROUD.
Title: Re: 2015 c14 pulls to the right
Post by: Ron Dawg on October 27, 2016, 05:29:33 AM
Interesting. Thanks.