Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: Mikey063 on August 02, 2016, 12:24:14 PM
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I think that my drive has a substantial leak. Here are the details. My bike is a 95 Connie and it has been running great for the last 8 years, but over the weekend I found a huge leak, well huge to me. This occurred after a weekend in which I had a rider in which I was doing quite a lot of slow riding.
While the last part is probably not the cause, I just wanted to show what occurred during the problem. Here are the pictures of the mess. Any and all help is most appreciated. I am probably going to either replace all the o rings that may cause a leak ($56.56) OR just buy a used final drive hub for about $125 total. Not sure of which is the best deal.
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I have removed the final drive and did a partial tear down.
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:popcorn:
Well, you are pretty much commited now... hope you have done a rebuild on a drive unit before this one....
You should have asked HOW to remove that big outer seal, without disassembling the whole thing, before jumping in....
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I already looked up how to do it, I used the Clymer guide and from looking at various other threads. So at this point, I am actually going to do both things. I am going to purchase a used final drive, and also replace the o-rings on this one. Also, I have NOT removed the outer seal yet. I have only done a tear down up to the outer seal. I have read about the difficulties in taking that one out, so that is why I have NOT removed it. I do appreciate your input.
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That big outer seal is piece of cake and pretty inexpensive too. That is probably where your leak is. Drill a small hole (1/8") and pull it out with a sheet metal screw. Only drill thru the seal because it is aluminum below it. Clean it all down and tap a new one in. I used a nice flat smooth piece of 1/2" oak plywood with a hole in it. I brushed some Permatex gasket sealant on the seal edge just before putting it in.
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Pretty much my response, but it was all taken apart... before I could say "hey, wait..... do it like..........."
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Update.
I replaced the big seal, and then put back together. Filled with gear oil up to the cap. Drove for 10 miles and no sign of a leak. I am very happy with the outcome. Thanks.