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Title: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 11, 2016, 11:13:41 AM
Hey everyone, I started having some display issue on my new bike and was hoping someone may have come across this before. I will be taking the bike in for warranty coverage since it is new but I am not sure if there might be a bigger issue other than the display. I have attached 3 pictures. Any input would be great. Thank you.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: DaddyFlip on July 11, 2016, 11:30:31 AM
Unless disconnecting the battery for a bit will solve that, looks like a new display is in order.

The CURRENT MPG page looks like it wants to monopolize the display.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 11, 2016, 03:34:28 PM
Unless disconnecting the battery for a bit will solve that, looks like a new display is in order.

I concur with the "try disconnecting/reconnecting the battery" if that doesn't solve it, it is time to visit the dealer.  It could be a loose cable, a cracked circuit board, or some other malfunction.  Certainly is not normal, and also not something I have seen reported before.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: just gone on July 11, 2016, 05:14:33 PM
Any chance it's temperature related ? Was it sitting in the sun for a while? Arizona right?
Many have had a windshield magnifying effect sitting in the sun and melting gauge needles IIRC, could effect display as well?
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 11, 2016, 05:35:34 PM
Clearly not the common faded temp.issue, this is a first on this particular display issue I've seen of what you show, can't say for certain doing a batt cable removal, cleaning, and reconnection is the fix either, in this case... and frankley I can't say that it is caused by a bad harness connection either judging from similar results on different tsensed functions...
I'm thinking this is actually a bad display issuewith an internal non serviceable by owner cure.. might as well get it into the dealer,nthey will replace the display unit,.and all should be good..mm first timer issue require you to buy beer....
Just kidding, make the Kaw dealership fix this one... but.... take it in,nshow it to them, make them order the display, and don't let them hold your bike hostage until the part comes in.... they tend to do that, and its wrong of them to do stuff like this, it may take a while to get that cluster in... and everything else is working... so, be diligent, and don't leave it with them....


Oh, and be sure to report back the results, and who you took it to, so we have some semblence of following this completely new phenomina..

Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 11, 2016, 06:49:45 PM
Oh, and be sure to report back the results, and who you took it to, so we have some semblence of following this completely new phenomina..

+1
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 12, 2016, 08:18:01 AM
Thank you for all the input everyone! I will be taking it to the dealer and I have a pretty relationship with them so I am hoping it will go smooth. The bike only has about 1200 miles on it so I know warranty will cover the repairs, I am just hoping I don't get any 'runaround'.  I will keep everyone updated as to what the they find out.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 12, 2016, 08:28:40 AM
What year bike?  2015?
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 12, 2016, 11:02:11 AM
What year bike?  2015?

Looks to be by his avatar... green
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: DaddyFlip on July 12, 2016, 11:13:38 AM
Looks to be by his avatar... green

And the reflection in the display.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 12, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
Hey guys, yes the bike is a 2015. I apologize for the the reflection in the pics. I was trying to get the pics as quickly as I could since the dash was freaking out and I wanted to get them before it corrected itself. I have an appointment with the dealer for this week and I have forwarded the service manager the pics. He said that this was very strange and he had not seen this before. He indicated that they would be contacting Kawasaki to figure out if there is any known issues for this and what is the best way to correct/fix it. He basically said that once they check plugs/connections etc. and they seem to be fine that Kawasaki will most likely send out a new display. He did mention that with a new display the bike will start the mileage count over as if it were new.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: DaddyFlip on July 12, 2016, 01:15:06 PM
I have no way to dispute that but sure doesn't sound right.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 12, 2016, 02:10:29 PM
Looks to be by his avatar... green

I could put up an avatar of a 63 vette but it doesn't mean I have one.

It really helps if you are asking for help to tell us the year of the bike that you are having issues with.  I think I'm going to start locking threads on help requests unless the year is at least known.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 12, 2016, 02:19:25 PM
My apologies for not indicating the year of the bike on my initial post! I did correct that mistake later in the thread. In my snarky defense I did indicate that the bike is "new" and my avatar shows my 2015 model year green bike along with the visible mileage in the pics being 1100 and change I did make the ASSUMPTION (and yes, I know the definition) that everyone would figure it out.  :P
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 12, 2016, 02:24:28 PM
And yet, I couldn't.  We have riders here that buy new bikes from past years that have languished on dealer floors for as much as two years or even longer.  It really helps to provide that information and not assume that we can figure that out from the avatar or a reflection in a mirror.  Just one of my pet peeves.  Ok now.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: gPink on July 12, 2016, 02:27:11 PM
Looks like beerthirty... :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 12, 2016, 02:28:32 PM
mmmmmmmmmmm, beerthirty!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 12, 2016, 02:44:53 PM
And yet, I couldn't.  We have riders here that buy new bikes from past years that have languished on dealer floors for as much as two years or even longer.  It really helps to provide that information and not assume that we can figure that out from the avatar or a reflection in a mirror.  Just one of my pet peeves.  Ok now.

Have a Martini and quit swinging the sword of Dama-Cleese please.....

And repeat the word.       Neeee:neeeeeeee,          Neeeeee.       Neeeeee
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 12, 2016, 03:27:34 PM
A martini and a scotch...sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 12, 2016, 03:41:02 PM
I have forwarded the service manager the pics. He said that this was very strange and he had not seen this before.

Indeed, that is what we told you too- very unusual

Quote
He did mention that with a new display the bike will start the mileage count over as if it were new.

Interesting- I thought that would be held in the ECU.

My apologies for not indicating the year of the bike on my initial post!

If you add it to your avatar/tag line or signature, then you will never have to think about it again!
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 12, 2016, 04:38:36 PM
Yeah, I agree, and the dealer prolly has no clue... it would be stored in the ECU as the gage cluter is just a readout....not a memory storage unit..
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 12, 2016, 04:49:44 PM
I thought that it was a bit odd that they told me the mileage would start at zero with the new display but the guy seems to think that is how it is. I guess I will find out soon.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 12, 2016, 04:55:39 PM
Yeah, that's what happens when the cluster is removed unfortunately.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 12, 2016, 06:38:48 PM
Yeah, that's what happens when the cluster is removed unfortunately.

again, I disagree.... the gage cluster does not store info...as far as i can tell..
tests of function pertaining to odometer, fuel level, miles, trip meter, and speedo, all require installing an adapter (Canbus) to test function of the Display, and the display only...
refer to FSM section 16
specifically section 16-80 were it specifies the test parameters, and also which require input from ECU...
tests #11 and above, require the cluster to be plugged in, and adapter used...
page 16-85 outlines the can adapter install
page 16-91 outlines speedo, odo, and trip meters...


you could disconnect the gage cluster, and also get data on fuel usage, odo, and trip, directly with the KDS3...

there are notes in the testing of those functions in the "normal" manner, that the odo, and related functions Cannot be manually reset to zero during those tests...

just sharing...


Now, I would actually, if it were MY bike, unplug all the connections from the ECU, and re plug them all back in... and see what happens... a bad or marginal connection in the CAN circuits would impact the functions..
But with what his display is showing, Im thinking there is a bad pwb in that cluster, with either a short. or moisture. because its trying to invoke multiple functions simultaneously on the screen.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conniesaki on July 12, 2016, 07:43:16 PM
That's interesting. I've seen used ECU's for sale before, but never a mention of its mileage.

Then again, if mileage was stored in the gauge cluster, you'd think used clusters would mention mileage.

That's it ... I've decided it's actually stored in the cloud.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 13, 2016, 02:13:45 AM
That's interesting. I've seen used ECU's for sale before, but never a mention of its mileage.

Then again, if mileage was stored in the gauge cluster, you'd think used clusters would mention mileage.

Very good point.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Hooligan on July 13, 2016, 02:42:32 AM

That's it ... I've decided it's actually stored in the cloud.

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 13, 2016, 04:16:07 AM
Right.   Well, I guess we'll find out when it gets replaced on the Odo function going to 0.  I'm looking at the manual but all it says is that the integrated value of the odometer cannot be reset.  Thiis is in the gauge section.  Why would they put that warning in for replacing the screen if the mileage was stored in the ECU?  There are electronics in that head unit.  Also, there's nothing in the ECU section that warns about the Odo function.  I'm still thinking it's stored in the head unit.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conrad on July 13, 2016, 05:06:33 AM
again, I disagree.... the gage cluster does not store info...as far as i can tell..
tests of function pertaining to odometer, fuel level, miles, trip meter, and speedo, all require installing an adapter (Canbus) to test function of the Display, and the display only...
refer to FSM section 16
specifically section 16-80 were it specifies the test parameters, and also which require input from ECU...
tests #11 and above, require the cluster to be plugged in, and adapter used...
page 16-85 outlines the can adapter install
page 16-91 outlines speedo, odo, and trip meters...


you could disconnect the gage cluster, and also get data on fuel usage, odo, and trip, directly with the KDS3...

there are notes in the testing of those functions in the "normal" manner, that the odo, and related functions Cannot be manually reset to zero during those tests...

just sharing...


Now, I would actually, if it were MY bike, unplug all the connections from the ECU, and re plug them all back in... and see what happens... a bad or marginal connection in the CAN circuits would impact the functions..
But with what his display is showing, Im thinking there is a bad pwb in that cluster, with either a short. or moisture. because its trying to invoke multiple functions simultaneously on the screen.

We've had only a few members (that I can remember) who have had to have their gauge clusters replaced for one reason or the other (as far as I recall it was most always for melted needles) and the clusters have always started out with zero mileage.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: sas mayhem on July 13, 2016, 07:55:25 AM
  My 09 does the exact same thing for over 3 yrs. It ONLY happens when sitting in the hot summer sun and shinning  directly on the cluster.
After I ride it a bit (less the 3 miles) it clears itself up (probably get cooled from the movement of the air.)
I now just lay my riding gloves over the cluster, no issues when covered.

Cheers
Ron
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: chap on July 13, 2016, 09:04:14 AM
again, I disagree.... the gage cluster does not store info...as far as i can tell..
tests of function pertaining to odometer, fuel level, miles, trip meter, and speedo, all require installing an adapter (Canbus) to test function of the Display, and the display only...
refer to FSM section 16
specifically section 16-80 were it specifies the test parameters, and also which require input from ECU...
tests #11 and above, require the cluster to be plugged in, and adapter used...
page 16-85 outlines the can adapter install
page 16-91 outlines speedo, odo, and trip meters...

just sharing...


Now, I would actually, if it were MY bike, unplug all the connections from the ECU, and re plug them all back in... and see what happens... a bad or marginal connection in the CAN circuits would impact the functions..
But with what his display is showing, Im thinking there is a bad pwb in that cluster, with either a short. or moisture. because its trying to invoke multiple functions simultaneously on the screen.



The cluster is where the ODO is stored. I have had my cluster replaced. It started back at Zero. I reinstalled the original for pics and its mileage popped up. The reason for my change was to change from MPH to KPH. So both clusters are working properly. This is on a 2010 ABS US Market bike.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conrad on July 13, 2016, 09:41:51 AM
  My 09 does the exact same thing for over 3 yrs. It ONLY happens when sitting in the hot summer sun and shinning  directly on the cluster.
After I ride it a bit (less the 3 miles) it clears itself up (probably get cooled from the movement of the air.)
I now just lay my riding gloves over the cluster, no issues when covered.

Cheers
Ron

Did you look at the pics in post 1. This is not the sun fading issue.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: sas mayhem on July 13, 2016, 09:58:09 AM
Did you look at the pics in post 1. This is not the sun fading issue.

I sure did Conrad, I never mentioned "fading"
  I get some of my digits missing and just not legible. As I noted it happens whenever I leave it in direct sunlight.  Ambit temp are not really a factor to a point. In the winter it happens too, but less that the summer. 
Cheers
Ron
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conrad on July 13, 2016, 10:09:35 AM
I sure did Conrad,
  I get some of my digits missing and just not legible. As I noted it happens whenever I leave it in direct sunlight. Ay high ambit temps. 
Cheers
Ron

My display fades when the sun shines on it for too long but it's the entire display, not just some of the digits.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: sas mayhem on July 13, 2016, 10:12:54 AM
I just went out to remove the gloves over the display. And took a pic.
When I go back this afternoon, my digits will be jumbled up.
I'll take before and after picture,

Cheers
Ron
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: PlaynInPeoria on July 13, 2016, 10:35:12 AM
I see a lot of for sale pics of bikes, just 1 picture from a poor angle, with poor lighting. Not a make, a model, a year, miles, mod list, maintenance etc.  Always very young guys.  It's kind of a pet peeve of mine. OK, fine, it totally pisses me off.

Unrelated to the OP, sorry for the hicjack, move along, nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 13, 2016, 10:54:19 AM
My display fades when the sun shines on it for too long but it's the entire display, not just some of the digits.

You sure it isn't your eyes, ol feller?
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conrad on July 13, 2016, 11:22:13 AM
You sure it isn't your eyes, ol feller?

It's hard to tell sometimes...
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 13, 2016, 11:47:29 AM


The cluster is where the ODO is stored. I have had my cluster replaced. It started back at Zero. I reinstalled the original for pics and its mileage popped up. The reason for my change was to change from MPH to KPH. So both clusters are working properly. This is on a 2010 ABS US Market bike.

Well, then I am wrong....
I will ask one thing tho, when you installed the new unit, and it registered zero, what occured when you rode it a few miles? Did it correct itself to show the additional miles? 
Just curious.  Id also be curious to plug in a KDS3 to the bike after say, 10 miles on the new gages, and see what was stored in the data file onboard...
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 13, 2016, 03:20:01 PM
That would be really annoying to not have the correct mileage.  I suppose it isn't the end of the world though... and the alternative (an incorrectly working display) is much worse.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: chap on July 13, 2016, 03:46:24 PM
Well, then I am wrong....
I will ask one thing tho, when you installed the new unit, and it registered zero, what occured when you rode it a few miles? Did it correct itself to show the additional miles? 
Just curious.  Id also be curious to plug in a KDS3 to the bike after say, 10 miles on the new gages, and see what was stored in the data file onboard...

The Kawasaki dealer did the change. When I got the bike back it had less than 1 km on it. It has continued from there, never did it add the previous mileage. When I put the original back in (temporarily for pictures) it showed the miles (or km) before the swap. There is possibly a store in the ECU but it is never referenced by the cluster. Maybe the KDS3 can see it, I don't know.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 13, 2016, 04:22:50 PM
The Kawasaki dealer did the change. When I got the bike back it had less than 1 km on it. It has continued from there, never did it add the previous mileage. When I put the original back in (temporarily for pictures) it showed the miles (or km) before the swap. There is possibly a store in the ECU but it is never referenced by the cluster. Maybe the KDS3 can see it, I don't know.

It certainly seems like a good way one could commit fraud by swapping in a new display on a bike with high mileage and then trying to sell it that way.  I would have thought they would perhaps have been more sophisticated- like storing the mileage in both the ECU and display unit and then having the computer set everything to whatever is higher.  Of course that could have bad outcomes too, if someone was legitimately swapping parts from other bikes just for testing.   Maybe the factory has a super-secret way to reset or set it manually... but I doubt that kind of functionality would ever be put in KDS3 because it would be hacked pretty quickly by someone for shady purposes.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: chap on July 13, 2016, 05:53:50 PM
It certainly seems like a good way one could commit fraud by swapping in a new display on a bike with high mileage and then trying to sell it that way.  I would have thought they would perhaps have been more sophisticated- like storing the mileage in both the ECU and display unit and then having the computer set everything to whatever is higher.  Of course that could have bad outcomes too, if someone was legitimately swapping parts from other bikes just for testing.   Maybe the factory has a super-secret way to reset or set it manually... but I doubt that kind of functionality would ever be put in KDS3 because it would be hacked pretty quickly by someone for shady purposes.

That is why the change was done by the dealer. The miles at the change are recorded by them. I have the original cluster, my reason to change  was to have the speed read in kph as i brought the bike in the usa. I am sure people could do it to show lower  miles but that  was  not  my intention.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 14, 2016, 04:24:35 AM
Well, then I am wrong....
I will ask one thing tho, when you installed the new unit, and it registered zero, what occured when you rode it a few miles? Did it correct itself to show the additional miles? 
Just curious.  Id also be curious to plug in a KDS3 to the bike after say, 10 miles on the new gages, and see what was stored in the data file onboard...

Just can't let it go, can you?

Here's something I picked up whilst doing some searches..   This place can 'correct' the odometer reading in the cluster.  Not sure if it can work with our bikes, but the cluster they show for 2006-2011 ZX-14 appears to look very similar to ours.

http://www.bluegauges.com/mileages.htm (http://www.bluegauges.com/mileages.htm)
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: slolifepilot on July 20, 2016, 12:52:57 PM
My display fades when the sun shines on it for too long but it's the entire display, not just some of the digits.
I had the exact same thing happen to me on my last ride.  Sun was right on the display while we ate breakfast, started up and what characters you could see were very faint.  Started riding and everything came back within about 5-10 min.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 20, 2016, 01:02:57 PM
Still waiting to hear verdict from o/p?
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 20, 2016, 01:10:23 PM
Ever hopeful...
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Rhino on July 20, 2016, 03:15:46 PM
I had the exact same thing happen to me on my last ride.  Sun was right on the display while we ate breakfast, started up and what characters you could see were very faint.  Started riding and everything came back within about 5-10 min.

Been happening to me since new on my 2010. I always put something over the display when parked in the sun. I keep a white paper plate in a side case for this purpose.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 20, 2016, 03:49:54 PM
Been happening to me since new on my 2010. I always put something over the display when parked in the sun. I keep a white paper plate in a side case for this purpose.

 :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :deadhorse:

O/P didn't have the "fade".... his display was hosed and showing multiple screens data simultaneously...

I really want to know what Kaw says... if it was indeed the display, or a bad connector... been a week... ::)
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 20, 2016, 03:53:29 PM
I had the exact same thing happen to me on my last ride.  Sun was right on the display while we ate breakfast, started up and what characters you could see were very faint.  Started riding and everything came back within about 5-10 min.

That is not unique to the Concours' dash, but pretty much any LCD screen.  Extremes in temperatures will make the screen go either way too dark or way too light.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 20, 2016, 03:54:11 PM
Hey everyone, I dropped my bike off at the dealer last Saturday morning and I was given an update today. They said the issue was submitted to Kawasaki along with the pictures and they are waiting for them to respond. They said they checked the connections, battery and all cables but they all looked good. On my way to the dealer on Saturday morning one letter on the dash freaked out a little but then corrected itself. Once I have more info I will post it.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conniesaki on July 20, 2016, 04:49:34 PM
Possibly Hal 9000 establishing itself :-X
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 20, 2016, 05:28:13 PM
I just heard back from the dealer who said that Kawasaki contacted them and told them to replace the display unit!! The service writer indicated he only told that the dash is "faulty" and needs to be replaced. He said they ordered the new one this afternoon and it should be here by the end of the week or first part of next week. I asked if that is all that Kawasaki them and he said yes. So, new display on the way.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conniesaki on July 20, 2016, 09:38:48 PM
Hey! You'll be back to a brand new zero-mile bike! (maybe)
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Hooligan on July 20, 2016, 10:47:55 PM
Hey! You'll be back to a brand new zero-mile bike! (maybe)

Tyre wear will most probably give him away though.... ;D
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conrad on July 21, 2016, 04:20:46 AM
Hey everyone, I dropped my bike off at the dealer last Saturday morning and I was given an update today. They said the issue was submitted to Kawasaki along with the pictures and they are waiting for them to respond. They said they checked the connections, battery and all cables but they all looked good. On my way to the dealer on Saturday morning one letter on the dash freaked out a little but then corrected itself. Once I have more info I will post it.

I just heard back from the dealer who said that Kawasaki contacted them and told them to replace the display unit!! The service writer indicated he only told that the dash is "faulty" and needs to be replaced. He said they ordered the new one this afternoon and it should be here by the end of the week or first part of next week. I asked if that is all that Kawasaki them and he said yes. So, new display on the way.

So they kept/keeping your bike while they waited to hear back from mama Kaw and while they wait for the part to come in? How long all together, two weeks?
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 21, 2016, 05:48:49 AM
So they kept/keeping your bike while they waited to hear back from mama Kaw and while they wait for the part to come in? How long all together, two weeks?

Yeah, that sucks.  I would insist on having the bike back, if it were me.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conrad on July 21, 2016, 08:10:24 AM
Yeah, that sucks.  I would insist on having the bike back, if it were me.

Me too, the bike is certainly rideable with the display messed up.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: jimmymac on July 21, 2016, 09:18:09 AM
Just get another... You can't have to many.
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp236/Jimmymac25/11168881_1156832107664330_1857480702609924004_n_zpsi0oxusjj.jpg) (http://s415.photobucket.com/user/Jimmymac25/media/11168881_1156832107664330_1857480702609924004_n_zpsi0oxusjj.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 21, 2016, 09:32:57 AM
Hey guys, the dealer will have the bike for a little over a week! I am ok with not having it right now as I have tons of projects going on at the house. We are doing new floors, rock for landscaping etc. so I am very busy to say the least and would not be riding anyway. Yes the display will be new and show 0 miles on it and I thought the tires refreshed themselves when the display went back to 0! I'm not treading on thin ice here right? Or should I just roll with it instead of letting it wear on on me? Oh look at that, three puns right in a row! We all could get some serious mileage out of this.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 21, 2016, 10:15:12 AM
Sigh...
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: jimmymac on July 21, 2016, 10:31:10 AM
Only here, Boys... Only here. 8)
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Conrad on July 21, 2016, 12:00:15 PM
Hey guys, the dealer will have the bike for a little over a week! I am ok with not having it right now as I have tons of projects going on at the house. We are doing new floors, rock for landscaping etc. so I am very busy to say the least and would not be riding anyway. Yes the display will be new and show 0 miles on it and I thought the tires refreshed themselves when the display went back to 0! I'm not treading on thin ice here right? Or should I just roll with it instead of letting it wear on on me? Oh look at that, three puns right in a row! We all could get some serious mileage out of this.

Shouldn't you be out working on those projects instead of trying to be so puny here?   ;)
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 21, 2016, 12:30:54 PM
If I were at home I would say yes.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: Diablo6v on July 21, 2016, 12:33:11 PM
FWIW i bought an ECU off of EBAY and had it programmed to my '09 with KDS. The mileage stayed the same. I swapped units back and forth as SISF was testing his flash.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on July 21, 2016, 12:36:25 PM
So your mileage stayed the same and someone else posted that when they got a new display the mileage went to 0. That is strange. The dealer did tell me that the mileage would be 0 but I would think they could program the correct mileage on the new unit. I will take pictures and upload once I get the bike back.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 21, 2016, 01:35:45 PM
The bike only has 1200 miles on it for the life of me I don't think the new odometer mileage is gonna be an issue....  the bike ain't even broken in yet... :deadhorse: :deadhorse:
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 21, 2016, 02:59:19 PM
So your mileage stayed the same and someone else posted that when they got a new display the mileage went to 0. That is strange.

No, he is agreeing with you and what the dealer said- that the mileage is not stored in the ECU, but is stored in the dashboard.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on July 21, 2016, 03:06:09 PM
The bike only has 1200 miles on it for the life of me I don't think the new odometer mileage is gonna be an issue....  the bike ain't even broken in yet... :deadhorse: :deadhorse:

LOL!  That is true.  But inquiring minds must know!!!
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: VirginiaJim on July 21, 2016, 04:21:05 PM
I already know.
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: ZXShan, 2015 C14 ABS on August 01, 2016, 10:28:06 AM
Hello everyone, I picked up my bike on Sunday with the new digital display installed and showing "0" miles on it. My bike now has just over sixty miles on it which is how far it is from the dealer to my house. Thanks for all the input and I hope everyone had a great weekend!!
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: maxtog on August 01, 2016, 04:33:45 PM
 :finger_fing11:

Glad your very unusual problem is solved, and at no costs too.  Thanks for the follow up posting!
Title: Re: Digital display issues!
Post by: jimmymac on August 02, 2016, 07:34:45 AM
I just figured it out too. ;)