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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: lather on May 09, 2016, 04:54:31 PM
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The locks on my 08 are in back of the latch and the locks on my 09 are in front of the latch.
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Are your bags on backwards? Just kidding. My 08 locks are in front of the handle.
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The lock locations are the same on all C14 bags, regardless of year. They are in front [closer to the front of the bike] of the latch. Attached is a photo of the left bag. If yours doesn't look like this, somehow it is mounted on the wrong side of the bike...
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The locks on my 08 are in back of the latch and the locks on my 09 are in front of the latch.
Face the bike in the other direction then stand on the other side of the bike and take a look. ;)
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Of course you know we need to have pictures of this..
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lathers 08 left bag:
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.....somehow it is mounted on the wrong side of the bike...
So Bob, did you take the cases apart when you installed the grab handles and then install the top section in the opposite case?
I haven't taken mine apart, but looking at the parts fiche it appears possible?
https://www.kawasaki.com/Parts/PartsDiagram/30836/2008/ZG1400A8F (https://www.kawasaki.com/Parts/PartsDiagram/30836/2008/ZG1400A8F)
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So Bob, did you take the cases apart when you installed the grab handles and then install the top section in the opposite case?
I haven't taken mine apart, but looking at the parts fiche it appears possible?
https://www.kawasaki.com/Parts/PartsDiagram/30836/2008/ZG1400A8F (https://www.kawasaki.com/Parts/PartsDiagram/30836/2008/ZG1400A8F)
That's gotta be what happened.
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I didn't do any dissassembly while attaching the handles. I am thinking the tech at Kawasaki dealer got them crossed when he did
the recall latch replacement.
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I didn't do any dissassembly while attaching the handles. I am thinking the tech at Kawasaki dealer got them crossed when he did
the recall latch replacement.
:o :-X
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I didn't do any dissassembly while attaching the handles. I am thinking the tech at Kawasaki dealer got them crossed when he did
the recall latch replacement.
bingo...
http://youtu.be/haJLOvOwvkI (http://youtu.be/haJLOvOwvkI)
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:yikes: and :yikes: This could only happen to you, Lather :rotflmao:
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just did a quick measurement, and it doesn't seem it would cause any problem offhand.... unless someone broke a latch, and ordered a new on based on its "supposed side"
I was trying to link to Muzzys famous faux pas picture of bags mounted wrong... and just realized they are out of business... awwwwww
oh well... so much for liability for anything they sold now.... bwaaaahaaaaaaa
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I didn't do any dissassembly while attaching the handles. I am thinking the tech at Kawasaki dealer got them crossed when he did
the recall latch replacement.
Just curious here, can you take a look and see how the latch mechanism lines up? It would seem unlikely that it would line up perfectly and perhaps be a bit off center front to back (or left to right as you look down at it) if it was on the wrong side unless mama Kaw went to the trouble of designing it that way ...and why would they do that? I'm currently hundreds of miles away from my bike or I'd go check myself...anyway if they are lined up OK then I guess you should leave them that way as a conversation starter.
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Just curious here, can you take a look and see how the latch mechanism lines up? It would seem unlikely that it would line up perfectly and perhaps be a bit off center front to back (or left to right as you look down at it) if it was on the wrong side unless mama Kaw went to the trouble of designing it that way ...and why would they do that? I'm currently hundreds of miles away from my bike or I'd go check myself...anyway if they are lined up OK then I guess you should leave them that way as a conversation starter.
OK I just looked and I don't believe they quite line up. I have the luxury of comparing with my 09. On the 09 the orange latches are centered on the mating part on the bike, while on the 08 they are all the way to the rear, not centered. More importantly there is 3/16 free play between the latch and the bike on the 08 possibly due to the extra 150,000 miles of wear and tear but maybe because the latches don't line up horizontally.
At any rate damn good thing the bags are pinned
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OK I just looked and I don't believe they quite line up. I have the luxury of comparing with my 09. On the 09 the orange latches are centered on the mating part on the bike, while on the 08 they are all the way to the rear, not centered. More importantly there is 3/16 free play between the latch and the bike on the 08 possibly due to the extra 150,000 miles of wear and tear but maybe because the latches don't line up horizontally.
At any rate damn good thing the bags are pinned
Yeah I'm glad the bags are pinned as well, especially if the Mrs. were to ever put any load on those grab bars. Thanks for checking on that Bob.
Now that the mystery is solved,...so max'...
....somehow it is mounted on the wrong side of the bike...
aren't you glad that you chose the diplomatic route rather than typing out loud what the rest of us thought you were really thinking? :stirpot: :rotflmao:
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Now that the mystery is solved,...so max'...
aren't you glad that you chose the diplomatic route rather than typing out loud what the rest of us thought you were really thinking? :stirpot: :rotflmao:
:) What could you possibly think I would have been thinking?
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The day I picked up my Connie, the panniers were fitted to the bike the wrong way around. RHS pannier was fitted to the LHS of the bike and vice versa. If it wasn't for a fellow club member (who also rides a Connie) that took the 300Km (Miles??) ride along to fetch the bike, and noticed the incorrect fitting, I might have lost the on the road home.
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By the way, the Mrs LOVES the grab handles. We started out touring on a VFR with Givi side cases that had handles that she used for security when I got frisky in the twisties. When we switched to the C14 she said hanging on to the OEM rails was bulling her shoulders out of joint. I am surprised other couples have not found this solution.
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By the way, the Mrs LOVES the grab handles. We started out touring on a VFR with Givi side cases that had handles that she used for security when I got frisky in the twisties. When we switched to the C14 she said hanging on to the OEM rails was bulling her shoulders out of joint. I am surprised other couples have not found this solution.
My wife doesn't grab anything when I get frisky in the twisities, she smacks the back of my helmet instead and I get an earful over the intercom. :o
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+1
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Just curious here, can you take a look and see how the latch mechanism lines up? It would seem unlikely that it would line up perfectly and perhaps be a bit off center front to back (or left to right as you look down at it) if it was on the wrong side unless mama Kaw went to the trouble of designing it that way ...and why would they do that? I'm currently hundreds of miles away from my bike or I'd go check myself...anyway if they are lined up OK then I guess you should leave them that way as a conversation starter.
dammit you guys.... you made me go out to the garage again, pick up a set of calipers, and measure them..... argggggggggg
on my recall fitted bag latches, correctly installed on my '08 bags, the dimension from the bottom of the recess the latch assembly sits in, to the edge of the orange latch, is identical on the front and rear measurment.... so it makes no difference on which latch was installed on which bag, as the orange part on mine is dead center of the whole insert part...
with that said, and no '09 bags to compare with, the actual latch mechanism on my '08 sits 1/4" forward of the centerline between the 2 hanger tabs molded into the bag..... but again, I said the actual mechanisms are mirror image and symmetrical parts... so they changed the actual back shell of the bag for the '09?????
weird.
no matter, my bags are pinned anyways...
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By the way, the Mrs LOVES the grab handles. We started out touring on a VFR with Givi side cases that had handles that she used for security when I got frisky in the twisties. When we switched to the C14 she said hanging on to the OEM rails was bulling her shoulders out of joint. I am surprised other couples have not found this solution.
I would be nervous. The bag system is designed to support the bags and their contents. Having a person grab them and throw weight on them while moving might be seriously overloading the mounting system... It might be fine but then again....
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I would be nervous. The bag system is designed to support the bags and their contents. Having a person grab them and throw weight on them while moving might be seriously overloading the mounting system... It might be fine but then again....
Thanks for the comment, food for thought. Mrs lather has good intuition and will let me know if she feels anything is sketchy. The setup was well tested two weeks ago on the Twisted Sisters and several other good hill country twisties, so far so good.
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My wife doesn't grab anything when I get frisky in the twisities, she smacks the back of my helmet instead and I get an earful over the intercom. :o
That is the exact reason I "misplaced" the intercom system after the first ride. It sounded like she was talking right inside my head....
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I don't have an intercom system per se, but I still hear the voices.
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I don't have an intercom system per se, but I still hear the voices.
And how do your voices like it when you get frisky in the twisties?
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twisties? :o I've never heard it called that before...
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twisties? :o I've never heard it called that before...
So you like square rear tyres....?
:stirpot: :stirpot: :rotflmao:
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And how do your voices like it when you get frisky in the twisties?
For the most part. They tend to disagree with each other.
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For the most part. They tend to disagree with each other.
But sometimes they do come up with good ideas...well mine do at least!! ;D
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My wife doesn't grab anything when I get frisky......
Unfortunately for me, I can echo your quote but I have to stop earlier in the sentence. :(
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Thanks for the comment, food for thought. Mrs lather has good intuition and will let me know if she feels anything is sketchy. The setup was well tested two weeks ago on the Twisted Sisters and several other good hill country twisties, so far so good.
IIRC Mrs. lather is pretty svelte, but it could be a valid concern for many.
I can't believe you two were in Texas and didn't stick around (or rather time your visit) for the nearby T-28.
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IIRC Mrs. lather is pretty svelte, but it could be a valid concern for many.
I can't believe you two were in Texas and didn't stick around (or rather time your visit) for the nearby T-28.
Stacie's about 103lbs, I rarely notice she back there. She's still working and had to get back to the grind. We originally planned to do the Wildflower event but she couldn't get that week off. She had to use her first pick to lock in dates for STAR in Vermont!
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My wife doesn't grab anything when I get frisky.....
Unfortunately for me, I can echo your quote but I have to stop earlier in the sentence. :(
My condolences.