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Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: Conrad on September 19, 2015, 07:25:27 AM
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http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/18/autos/epa-cheating-vw/index.html (http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/18/autos/epa-cheating-vw/index.html)
Diesel cars from Volkswagen and Audi cheated on clean air rules by including software that made the cars' emissions look cleaner than they actually were, according to federal and California regulators.
The regulators say that the software on the cars turns on emission controls only when it detects that the car was being tested.
"The effectiveness of these vehicles' pollution emissions control devices is greatly reduced during all normal driving situations," said the Environmental Protection Agency's notice to the company. "This results in cars that meet emissions standards in the laboratory or testing station, but during normal operation, emit nitrogen oxides at up to 40 times the standard."
There are nearly 500,000 of these diesel cars on U.S. roads. The models include the VW Jetta, the Beetle and the Golf from model years 2009 through 2015, the Passat from 2014-2015 as well as the Audi A3, model years 2009-2015. The Audi luxury brand is owned by Volkswagen Group.
Owners of the affected cars do not face health risks, according to the EPA, and can to continue to drive or sell them. But the EPA has ordered VW to recall the cars and fix the violation. No recall has yet been announced.
VW said it is cooperating with the investigation.
The EPA did not say how much VW would ultimately be fined for this infraction.
Diesel cars from Volkswagen and Audi cheated on clean air rules by including software that made the cars' emissions look cleaner than they actually were, according to federal and California regulators.
This is potentially a HUGE fine for VW/Audi. ~500,000 affected cars (mine being one of them) to the tune of a $37,500 fine for EACH car. You do the math. :o
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Another case of big gov raiding the private sector.
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I don't understand. Big corporation essentially lied to big Government about emissions. And if they lied about that, what else are they covering up?
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I don't understand. Big corporation essentially lied to big Government about emissions. And if they lied about that, what else are they covering up?
Jimmy Hoffa
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The moon landing.
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Where Hitler is living.
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Who shot JR.
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Location of the Fountain of Youth.
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The real emergency number, which is 912.
Brian
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What's behind door #4.
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We found out where Jimmy Hoffa was: they found him under Tammy Faye Baker's makeup.
Brian
Jimmy Hoffa
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So that's what was wrong with Jim. :o
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Assuming, of course, that there is really any such thing as big corporations or government. Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, what we think we see as the gov't is nothing but a plot by the gov't, thereby proving it does not exist? Hmmmmmm? Remember back when that fictitious troll was posting about having problems with his fictitious C-14 in the fictitious land of Mexico? Fool me once....
Brian
I don't understand. Big corporation essentially lied to big Government about emissions. And if they lied about that, what else are they covering up?
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Jimmy Hoffa killed JFK. Then, he stowed away on the moon-landing flight. Too bad for him that it was all faked, when the rocket was secretly crashed into the ocean, where he drowned and died. He's somewhere under 10,000 feet of Pacific Ocean. Or he was until the crabs ate him. The astronauts were never actually on-board the moon rocket because NASA knew it wouldn't work. They were spirited away from the launch site by the Men In Black, who hustled them away to live in Shangri-La, (the entrance to which is hidden behind Door #3, there is NO door #4, that's just another illusion), where they keep the Fountain of Youth. They are still young men, and the guys we see now on the news are imposters who have been surgically altered to look like them. JR was shot by a lone gun-man sitting on a grassy knoll, because he knew too much about all the above. The gun-man made his getaway in a Volkswagen, which went forward in time when he hit 88 MPH, because it was equipped with an Oscillation Overthruster. The gun-man will reappear (to us) in a few years, and you'll be surprised to learn his name is
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Liar! Liar, liar, liar! YOU are the source of the cover up! All your stories was nothing but subterfuge to cover up the fact that the Volkswagen used by the gunman was putting out EXCESSIVE EMISSIONS, directly leading to Watergate!
Do not fall for this one people, it is a well crafted, carefully interlinked trap to divert your attention from the real issue, whatever that was....
Brian
Jimmy Hoffa killed JFK. Then, he stowed away on the moon-landing flight. Too bad for him that it was all faked, when the rocket was secretly crashed into the ocean, where he drowned and died. He's somewhere under 10,000 feet of Pacific Ocean. Or he was until the crabs ate him. The astronauts were never actually on-board the moon rocket because NASA knew it wouldn't work. They were spirited away from the launch site by the Men In Black, who hustled them away to live in Shangri-La, (the entrance to which is hidden behind Door #3, there is NO door #4, that's just another illusion), where they keep the Fountain of Youth. They are still young men, and the guys we see now on the news are imposters who have been surgically altered to look like them. JR was shot by a lone gun-man sitting on a grassy knoll, because he knew too much about all the above. The gun-man made his getaway in a Volkswagen, which went forward in time when he hit 88 MPH, because it was equipped with an Oscillation Overthruster. The gun-man will reappear (to us) in a few years, and you'll be surprised to learn his name is
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Twits.
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Jimmy Hoffa killed JFK. Then, he stowed away on the moon-landing flight. Too bad for him that it was all faked, when the rocket was secretly crashed into the ocean, where he drowned and died. He's somewhere under 10,000 feet of Pacific Ocean. Or he was until the crabs ate him. The astronauts were never actually on-board the moon rocket because NASA knew it wouldn't work. They were spirited away from the launch site by the Men In Black, who hustled them away to live in Shangri-La, (the entrance to which is hidden behind Door #3, there is NO door #4, that's just another illusion), where they keep the Fountain of Youth. They are still young men, and the guys we see now on the news are imposters who have been surgically altered to look like them. JR was shot by a lone gun-man sitting on a grassy knoll, because he knew too much about all the above. The gun-man made his getaway in a Volkswagen, which went forward in time when he hit 88 MPH, because it was equipped with an Oscillation Overthruster. The gun-man will reappear (to us) in a few years, and you'll be surprised to learn his name is
ELVIS.....
who was surgically altered last year, and has reappeared now as..... Caitlan Jenner...
hunk o hunk o burnin love....
next up....
"Dingo's ate my baby" ...
and
"Oh wow man, Jim Morrison is dead? Jim Croce is dead? Who's Jim Croce???
but I digress... I personally find it offensive that I must pay the state of Ohio, to test the emmisions on my 1999 GMC truck, which if it throws a stupid code like "check engine soon" will fail, even tho its fine... so I go to the auto parts store, use their analyzer to check codes, and in the process clear all the codes and wipe my system clean, then take the truck to the inspection station, where they plug it into their computor and tell me.." someone tampered with the ecu on your truck, we have to run a manual exhaust sniffer tube in you pipe" ... my response is "go ahead"..... and it passes with flying colors, essions are below 25% of the specified limits.... I pay them, drive out, and follow a diesel truck bellowing black clouds of smoke, and another bus bellowing twice as much.... mmmmmm thank you for the clean air.
" oh, Senior granpa, can I use your truck to pick up my family from immigration?". " No Pepino get back in that barn and keep shoveling sheep dip...Dag nabbit"
https://youtu.be/YshfeNHtmMU
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That is because when you clear the ECU, it is required that the vehicle be driven for 50 miles min. before the ECU can be used for an emissions test. This is so that we do not all clear the codes in the parking lot of the inspection station on the way in.... ;D
OFFTOPIC: (although personally, I think that train sailed a while ago) I have a rather persistent Check Engine Light that I keep clearing and it keeps turning back on. No doubt because the fuel cap is 'broked' (technical term) and the system cannot pressurize and recycle fuel vapors. All of which means I will have to but a new fuel cap (checks date on inspection sticker.....) in another 17 months.
Brian
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" someone tampered with the ecu on your truck, we have to run a manual exhaust sniffer tube in you pipe"
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Maybe, but it was you who mentioned the Loch Ness monster and KiPass in the same post. What did you think was gonna' happen?
Brian
Twits.
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I get the same codes and I just clear them. Had them on the new Prius once and my daughter's Quest a couple of times. Stupid computer.
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when I check the codes, they are both O2 sensors, but I replaced them all.. and cleared the codes... the engine burns clean, I mean really clean, and I just laugh at the test saying " I bet you don't see values that low on brand new vehicles"... they laugh and say I'm right.
the inspection is only required every other year, so I'm good thru 2016...
pulled this off twice, and don't feel a bit of guilt, knowing its a clean burning engine, but the beaurocrats just want to levy $$$ for nothing.
you can get a "free pass" if you fail, and spend $300 for supposed service to rectify, and it still won't pass... go figure, that's just shear b/s.
and the deisel trucks keep belching visible black clouds... but that's difffffffferent.
this same truck throws ABS codes occasionally also, but they clear when the truck is shut off andnrestarted, the ABS is working fine...
those trucks were problematic in tossing codes do to multiple ground point issues, and running thru all the ground points, cleaning and reattaching them all is a royal p.I.t.a.
I just stop at the autoparts store and clear them.
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when I check the codes, they are both O2 sensors, but I replaced them all.. and cleared the codes... the engine burns clean, I mean really clean, and I just laugh at the test saying " I bet you don't see values that low on brand new vehicles"... they laugh and say I'm right.
the inspection is only required every other year, so I'm good thru 2016...
pulled this off twice, and don't feel a bit of guilt, knowing its a clean burning engine, but the beaurocrats just want to levy $$$ for nothing.
you can get a "free pass" if you fail, and spend $300 for supposed service to rectify, and it still won't pass... go figure, that's just shear b/s.
and the deisel trucks VW's keep belching visible black clouds... but that's difffffffferent.
this same truck throws ABS codes occasionally also, but they clear when the truck is shut off andnrestarted, the ABS is working fine...
those trucks were problematic in tossing codes do to multiple ground point issues, and running thru all the ground points, cleaning and reattaching them all is a royal p.I.t.a.
I just stop at the autoparts store and clear them.
Those code scanners don't cost that much. I couldn't work on any vehicles (1996+) without one of those.
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We found out where Jimmy Hoffa was: they found him under Tammy Faye Baker's makeup.
Brian
No wonder it took so long to find him! It took years to excavate all those layers.
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ELVIS.....
who was surgically altered last year, and has reappeared now as..... Caitlan Jenner...
hunk o hunk o burnin love....
https://youtu.be/YshfeNHtmMU
:rotflmao:
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I sure am glad I clicked on this thread. You guys absolutely slay me! :rotflmao:
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And to think that some people have the audacity to ask: What is the meaning of life? I believe this thread sums up the answer- to amuse one's self until we are dead. And not THAT kind of amusement (Easy Boys!).
Brian
I sure am glad I clicked on this thread. You guys absolutely slay me! :rotflmao:
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And to think that some people have the audacity to ask: What is the meaning of life? I believe this thread sums up the answer- to amuse one's self until we are dead. And not THAT kind of amusement (Easy Boys!).
Brian
42.
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and a towel
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VW tried to slip one passed the Vogons. Now they have to face the poetry.
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VW's stocks fell by 20%. Ouch!