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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: ninjawarrior1400 on June 24, 2011, 10:59:26 AM

Title: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: ninjawarrior1400 on June 24, 2011, 10:59:26 AM
Was looking over the Corbin website regarding the Smuggler two piece seat...and maybe detachable backrest....looks pretty good...

Does anyone here have this on their C-14, and if so...how do you like it?  Good, bad, or whatever comments..??

Mostly how does it feel after several hours in the saddle over stock or a Sargent?

Ninja
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: ljcorby on June 24, 2011, 11:02:25 AM
My wife and I have the two piece Corbin seats with the heated option, and the backrest.  Love them.  No problems here.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: SVonhof on June 24, 2011, 11:51:17 AM
Those pics you posted are not the smuggler, but just the standard seat. The smuggler is a little trunk that gives the rider a backrest and takes the place of the rear passenger seat.
Front saddle no heat, Concours 1400    $289
Front saddle Heated, Concours 1400    $459
Rear saddle no heat, Concours 1400    $209
Rear saddle Heated Concours 1400    $369
Smuggler Trunk Painted Concours 1400    $799
Ovalbac Leather Backrest (ea)            $229

If you need the passenger seat on occasion, you would need to purchase the two seats and the smuggler and if you want it, the backrest for the passenger, so you are looking at $1530 for that package and if you want heat all around, it jumps up to $1860.  That's a chunk of change!

http://www.corbin.com/kawasaki/kc8fre.shtml (http://www.corbin.com/kawasaki/kc8fre.shtml)
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: leisyman on June 24, 2011, 12:04:53 PM
I have the standard two-piece seat. a little hard, but shaped very well and with 10k miles on it now, it is beginning to soften up a bit. Have used Corbin before on other bikes and, tho they are a bit stiff, the shape and angle of the seat is terrific.

I have arthritis in my lower back, and I can now sit for 4+ hrs in the saddle with no isues.
Love it:)
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: ZG on June 24, 2011, 03:02:08 PM
My wife and I have the two piece Corbin seats with the heated option, and the backrest.  Love them.  No problems here.

+1...
 
Me and mama love it, especially with the heat option and backrest!  :thumbs:
 
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00232-20110507-1441.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: Bob on June 24, 2011, 06:36:08 PM
Loved my heated Corbin!
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: papaboomboom on June 25, 2011, 08:59:51 AM
I have the heated seat and smuggler. Hate them both. See below:

a. Corbin seat is made of leather so the thought of sitting on a dead animals skin is repulsive to me.
b. the seat gets very hot in cold weather with the heat switch on. A warm tush gives me diarrhea.
c. Seat eliminates the forward push of the stock seat. I miss having my ???? rubbed.
d. The Smuggler has caused me to use my stock side bags once since I got the bike. Damn smuggler is so small that all I can carry are my tools, hat, clothes for 2-days, gps, cell phone, camera, and binoculars.
e. Smuggler paint matches bodywork and causes that damn annoying question, "did the bike come with that"

88
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: ZG on June 25, 2011, 09:07:49 AM
I have the heated seat and smuggler. Hate them both. See below:

a. Corbin seat is made of leather so the thought of sitting on a dead animals skin is repulsive to me.
b. the seat gets very hot in cold weather with the heat switch on. A warm tush gives me diarrhea.
c. Seat eliminates the forward push of the stock seat. I miss having my ??? ? rubbed.
d. The Smuggler has caused me to use my stock side bags once since I got the bike. Damn smuggler is so small that all I can carry are my tools, hat, clothes for 2-days, gps, cell phone, camera, and binoculars.
e. Smuggler paint matches bodywork and causes that damn annoying question, "did the bike come with that"

88


 :rotflmao:


It's also very annoying that the Corbin backrest can be used with a trunk mounted or not if you have a Phils rack, now I don't have passengers complaining...  ???   ;) 
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: maxtog on June 25, 2011, 09:08:15 AM
I have the heated seat and smuggler. Hate them both. See below:

a. Corbin seat is made of leather so the thought of sitting on a dead animals skin is repulsive to me.
b. the seat gets very hot in cold weather with the heat switch on. A warm tush gives me diarrhea.
c. Seat eliminates the forward push of the stock seat. I miss having my ???? rubbed.
d. The Smuggler has caused me to use my stock side bags once since I got the bike. Damn smuggler is so small that all I can carry are my tools, hat, clothes for 2-days, gps, cell phone, camera, and binoculars.
e. Smuggler paint matches bodywork and causes that damn annoying question, "did the bike come with that"

You do have an art for that backwards-meaning posting stuff. :)

Actually, having outdoor-related leather CAN be a negative (compared to a high-quality vinyl) from a care and wear standpoint.  Guess it depends where and how it is kept.  And don't be dissn' vegetarians... I am a semi-vegetarian myself ;)  (although I have no dislike of leather, in general)
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: mikeboileau on June 25, 2011, 12:55:45 PM
I would love to try a Corbin some day.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: jonathan on June 27, 2011, 09:08:52 AM
I have the seat and smuggler also. I don't have the passenger seat as I ride solo. The seat is firmer and a little wider than stock, which for me works much better for long distances. Also by putting my back against the smuggler I find I'm consistently in the most comfortable position so I no longer have to keep shifting around until I find it. My seat isn't heated because I wear pants when I ride and I bought it second hand so that wasn't an option.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: Conrad on June 27, 2011, 09:15:35 AM
I have the seat and smuggler also. I don't have the passenger seat as I ride solo. The seat is firmer and a little wider than stock, which for me works much better for long distances. Also by putting my back against the smuggler I find I'm consistently in the most comfortable position so I no longer have to keep shifting around until I find it. My seat isn't heated because I wear pants when I ride and I bought it second hand so that wasn't an option.

Pants you say?
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: mbishara on February 03, 2015, 01:24:18 PM
Hey how’s it going? I know that this is a rally old post but I’m thinking of buying the modular Corbin with the Smuggler trunk. Is it a simple matter to swap the trunk with the back seat and vice versa?

I called Corbin but they’re so abrupt in their replies and they just tell me to look at the pictures posted online (which are almost useless)....

Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: Rhino on February 03, 2015, 01:43:29 PM
Hey how’s it going? I know that this is a rally old post but I’m thinking of buying the modular Corbin with the Smuggler trunk. Is it a simple matter to swap the trunk with the back seat and vice versa?

I called Corbin but they’re so abrupt in their replies and they just tell me to look at the pictures posted online (which are almost useless)....

Can't comment on the Smuggler but absolutely LOVE my Corbin. I've tried OEM, Spencer's mod and Russell Day Long before getting the Corbin. It does take a thousand miles or more to break it in but once broken in, the best seat for the C14 for me.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: just gone on February 03, 2015, 01:56:27 PM
Hey how’s it going?

Pretty good, thanks for asking! (none of these other folks ever ask me this, I'm starting to think that they don't really care.  :'( )
 
I’m thinking of buying the modular Corbin with the Smuggler trunk. Is it a simple matter to swap the trunk with the back seat and vice versa?

Well I think that ZG is our resident expert on this, except that he doesn't seem to reside here anymore. Try asking him over on the COG forum and I'm sure he'll reply
as soon as he's done painting somethin' or taking photos of it.

I called Corbin but they’re so abrupt in their replies and they just tell me to look at the pictures posted online (which are almost useless)....

I've been told that they are even less friendly after the sale. Pretty much "if you're not happy with it then resell it, as we could not care less."

Can't comment on the Smuggler but absolutely LOVE my Corbin. I've tried OEM, Spencer's mod and Russell Day Long before getting the Corbin. It does take a thousand miles or more to break it in but once broken in, the best seat for the C14 for me.

I've only sat on a Corbin once and it was like sitting on a rock, so I gotta ask, was it the seat that broke in..or your derriere that broke in?
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: 1jeep on February 03, 2015, 01:57:49 PM
I don't have one YET...I did order one yesterday, leather non heated both rider and passenger $622 with shipping and was told 3-4 weeks. I didn't get the smuggler but I do like that I can add that or the passenger backrest if I want.

My bike has 9k miles, bought it last may and the stock seat had to go soon, I couldn't do another season on it!
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: Conrad on February 03, 2015, 02:33:31 PM
Pretty good, thanks for asking! (none of these other folks ever ask me this, I'm starting to think that they don't really care.  :'( )

I'm sorry Marty, I had no idea that you were feeling so neglected!

 :grouphug:

There, is that better?
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: elp_jc on February 03, 2015, 02:41:14 PM
I've only sat on a Corbin once and it was like sitting on a rock, so I gotta ask, was it the seat that broke in..or your derriere that broke in?
Indeed. I owned one for a year, and with my paltry 155#, only my derriere broke ;D. I never even dented the damn thing. You just cannot make a proper one-size-fits-all seat. Corbins are for 225+ lb guys, IMO. Will never buy one again.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: Rhino on February 03, 2015, 02:42:30 PM
I've only sat on a Corbin once and it was like sitting on a rock, so I gotta ask, was it the seat that broke in..or your derriere that broke in?

Definitely the seat. The point of the hard foam is that it never bottoms out. It eventually softens just enough to mold to you every time you get on it. I now have 2 bikes with Corbin seats. Both are excellent for all day riding. The OEM seat on my DR650 felt like a 2x4 after an hour or so. With the Corbin I've taken it on 5 day adventure rides.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: philipintexas on February 03, 2015, 03:03:07 PM
I had one for a while. If you look at the seat you'll see it looks like it was molded from someone's derriere. When seated I could not change positions to relieve sore spots, shift forward, back, side, it didn't matter, I'd slide right back into that double-molded indentation and ended up with very red, sore welts on my sit-bones. The seat was as hard as concrete and I couldn't manage more than 50-75 miles without looking for an excuse to get off. It did stop the forward slide though.  I had a Corbin on two ST1100s and put over 150K comfortable miles on it, but the C-14 seat is a different animal. I eventually sold it.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: JhVenezuela on February 03, 2015, 03:58:59 PM
70000 Kms on it and not problema at all.
My wife love it
but sincerely, "Little hard".


Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: SVonhof on February 03, 2015, 05:58:08 PM
They are hard seats, but have been comfortable for me on the 4 different bikes I have owned over my 18+ years of riding and I do some long trips during the summer.

As for their customer service? Well, I got my seat secondhand and it didn't come with the bracket that you bolt to the bike to lock the front seat in. I called them and after a few tries, finally got through and they told me I had to order it from a shop that sells Corbin Products. I went to a local shop that does a lot of custom work on bikes and does sell Corbin and the guy took my info and the part number and never called me back. Oh well, it works fine without that bracket...
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: The Pope on February 04, 2015, 03:30:23 AM
Hey how’s it going? I know that this is a rally old post but I’m thinking of buying the modular Corbin with the Smuggler trunk. Is it a simple matter to swap the trunk with the back seat and vice versa?

I noticed that nobody answered your question.

The answer is yes, the back seat and the Smugger are very easily swapped. It only takes about 10 seconds.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: just gone on February 04, 2015, 09:57:16 AM
I'm sorry Marty, I had no idea that you were feeling so neglected!

 :grouphug:

There, is that better?

Much (sniff) better (sniff) now, thanks Conrad.   :)

The point of the hard foam is that it never bottoms out. It eventually softens just enough to mold to you every time you get on it. I now have 2 bikes with Corbin seats. Both are excellent for all day riding. The OEM seat on my DR650 felt like a 2x4 after an hour or so. With the Corbin I've taken it on 5 day adventure rides.

There's foam in there?....must be this stuff (http://www.provoton.com/).

The only Corbin I've sat on was for the C14, as for the DR Corbin...I have no Idea if it's hard as well. On my DR I use the Sweet Cheeks (http://cycle-analyst.com/sweetcheeks) with full bottles. If on a longer trip on the DR, I'll borrow the AirHawk R from my C14 and throw it on top of the Sweet Cheeks set up.

I noticed that nobody answered your question.

The answer is yes, the back seat and the Smugger are very easily swapped. It only takes about 10 seconds.

I new if we kept this thread active enough, that some responsible person would come along and tend to business. Good job Pope!
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: Rhino on February 04, 2015, 02:37:33 PM
On my DR I use the Sweet Cheeks (http://cycle-analyst.com/sweetcheeks) with full bottles.

Interesting. I've never seen those before.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: The Pope on February 05, 2015, 03:25:13 AM
I new if we kept this thread active enough, that some responsible person would come along and tend to business. Good job Pope!
I try. Although not very much, but I do.
Thanks!  8)
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: just gone on February 05, 2015, 10:07:29 AM
I new if we kept this thread active enough, that some responsible person would come along and tend to business. Good job Pope!

I try. Although not very much, but I do.
Thanks!  8)

You're most welcome. ..and just for the record I knew that "knew" isn't spelled "new" it actually was a typo and not a mistake-O.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: Cruise Missile on February 11, 2015, 05:01:08 PM
I have the corbin 2pc , no back rest. Love it. The first time I rode with the seat installed I actually forgot all about it until 3 hrs into the ride. While fueling the bike my riding buddy asked what I thought of the new Corbin.... I just smiled. My 15year old son rides pillion and likes it way better than the stock seat.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: C14PAINKILLER on February 12, 2015, 12:12:30 AM
I don't have one YET...I did order one yesterday, leather non heated both rider and passenger $622 with shipping and was told 3-4 weeks. I didn't get the smuggler but I do like that I can add that or the passenger backrest if I want.

My bike has 9k miles, bought it last may and the stock seat had to go soon, I couldn't do another season on it!

Corbin has been great on all my other bikes:) This one however has one problem that has been mentioned here and the other site by a few riders, namely a pressure point that numbs the family jewels:( I believe they may have addressed this problem by now (?) but the front hump needs to be taken down. I'm in the process of getting it done this winter. A lot better than the stock seat:)
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: 1jeep on February 12, 2015, 06:37:14 AM
Im now on week 3 of waiting for corbin to make my seat, I was told 4 weeks, but I certainly hope they have addressed these issues I read about. I was very close to going with the Baldwin gt, only deciding factor was with the corbin I still have my stock seat.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: wally_games on February 12, 2015, 11:31:28 AM
Had one on my '12. Yes, it was hard, but I could sit on that thing for hours on end. Very comfortable for me. Loved it. I'm 6'0" and 165#.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: bigfraid on February 12, 2015, 06:05:03 PM
I also have the Corbin with the back rest and me and my wife love it,the seat is hard but is 100% more comfortable than the factory.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: SimpleSimon on February 17, 2015, 12:19:33 PM
I have a Corbin 2-piece sport seat with back rest.  It doesn't look like the one I currently see on their site.  Personally, I want to get rid of it because I believe it is lower than stock.  I'll probably look to see if someone wants to trade for a Sargent or any other aftermarket standard height.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: danvforce on February 18, 2015, 02:50:35 PM
 This is the 4th bike I've had a corbin, yes they are firm, but they work well for me, guess I'm just a hardass. Here's some pic's with and without the Smuggler.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/danvforce/ws4.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/danvforce/media/ws4.jpg.html)


(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/danvforce/100_0842.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/danvforce/media/100_0842.jpg.html)


(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/danvforce/100_0844.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/danvforce/media/100_0844.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: Conrad on February 19, 2015, 05:25:25 AM
This is the 4th bike I've had a corbin, yes they are firm, but they work well for me, guess I'm just a hardass. Here's some pic's with and without the Smuggler.


(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/danvforce/100_0842.jpg) (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/danvforce/media/100_0842.jpg.html)

Nice seat!    :thumbs:
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: sailor_chic on February 19, 2015, 06:58:41 AM
I would love to try out a Corbin
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: 1jeep on February 19, 2015, 07:57:25 AM
Dan..nice seat, I didn't order anything that flashy, just plain black leather....now I am thinking I should have requested something different.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: Rhino on February 19, 2015, 08:14:40 AM
I would love to try out a Corbin

If your ever in Austin, you can try mine.
Title: Re: Anyone have or tried the Corbin Smuggler two piece C-14 seat..?
Post by: sailor_chic on February 19, 2015, 12:53:52 PM
If your ever in Austin, you can try mine.

Thank you :) I might take you on that sometime.