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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: FZBear10 on August 24, 2015, 12:04:57 PM

Title: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 24, 2015, 12:04:57 PM
I bought a Givi windshield for my C14. I tried finding info on here before I got it but I couldn't find anything. This screen is awesome, I had the Cal Sci on there before but it caused tons of buffeting. This one seems a lot quieter with a lot less buffeting. I bought it used on ebay and it was a real shot in the dark as I had no idea what it would be like, but for the price, I pulled the trigger. I am very pleased with how it looks and works.
I am 5-10 by the way.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: PH14 on August 24, 2015, 07:26:36 PM
What year bike do you have and what size CalSci did you have? I bought the CalSci Medium back in 2010 for my 2009 C14 and I don't really notice any buffeting. I'm also 5'10".

How tall is the Givi and do you notice back pressure from it? That was my biggest problem with the stock shield and it is absent with the medium CalSci.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 25, 2015, 08:04:38 AM
What year bike do you have and what size CalSci did you have? I bought the CalSci Medium back in 2010 for my 2009 C14 and I don't really notice any buffeting. I'm also 5'10".

How tall is the Givi and do you notice back pressure from it? That was my biggest problem with the stock shield and it is absent with the medium CalSci.

I have an 09 and I have no idea what size CalSci I had. It came with the bike when I bought it from the previous owner. It took me some time to figure out what brand it was, he didn't know either, even though he bought it. I will measure the Givi when I get home but this screen is a few inches than the CalSci. I don't have any back pressure and there is way less buffeting than with the CalSci. I don't know if it is the curved tip at the top but I am thrilled with it.
I was looking at buying the Aeroflow but I think this one looks better plus it was a lot cheaper and I am very happy with how it performs.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: PH14 on August 25, 2015, 09:35:13 AM
I have an 09 and I have no idea what size CalSci I had. It came with the bike when I bought it from the previous owner. It took me some time to figure out what brand it was, he didn't know either, even though he bought it. I will measure the Givi when I get home but this screen is a few inches than the CalSci. I don't have any back pressure and there is way less buffeting than with the CalSci. I don't know if it is the curved tip at the top but I am thrilled with it.
I was looking at buying the Aeroflow but I think this one looks better plus it was a lot cheaper and I am very happy with how it performs.

Thanks. Can you look over the shield? The medium CalSci is quite small compared to a lot of the shields people here run. I like to be able to see over it. The Givi looks nice on you bike, and of course you have the fastest color. Nice looking bike. It looks a little cleaner than mine.  ;D
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 25, 2015, 10:12:19 AM
Thanks. Can you look over the shield? The medium CalSci is quite small compared to a lot of the shields people here run. I like to be able to see over it. The Givi looks nice on you bike, and of course you have the fastest color. Nice looking bike. It looks a little cleaner than mine.  ;D

I can see very clearly over the shield even when it is all the way up. I was concerned about that too, I live in SoCal so the weather is always warm and I didn't want to be too hot while riding.

Thanks, the guy I bought it from had it in absolutely perfect condition with very low miles. He had every possible farkle added to it as well. Cruise control, Givi tail bag, Corbin seat with smuggler, plastic coating everywhere to protect the paint, radar detector power port, GPS mount w/ power port, PC5 with a custom map, new tires & battery, and AGV levers, All I have done is change the windshield, had the Corbin seat modified with more padding & gel insert, installed 2 inch risers, and saddlebag retaining brackets.
I am very happy with the bike
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 25, 2015, 11:25:11 AM
I bought a Givi windshield for my C14. I tried finding info on here before I got it but I couldn't find anything. This screen is awesome, I had the Cal Sci on there before but it caused tons of buffeting. This one seems a lot quieter with a lot less buffeting. I bought it used on ebay and it was a real shot in the dark as I had no idea what it would be like, but for the price, I pulled the trigger. I am very pleased with how it looks and works.
I am 5-10 by the way.

Too bad they don't have a "tinted" version :(
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 25, 2015, 11:27:23 AM
Too bad they don't have a "tinted" version :(

I didn't know they don't make them tinted.
My CalSci was tinted and it looked really good.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 25, 2015, 11:37:10 AM
I didn't know they don't make them tinted.
My CalSci was tinted and it looked really good.

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't CalSci only offer one size that's tinted?
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 25, 2015, 12:31:39 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't CalSci only offer one size that's tinted?

I have no idea, I got the bike with the CalSci and it took me a while to figure out what brand it was because the previous owner didn't know what he had even though he is the one that bought it. He was a nice guy but he seemed clueless about the bike, not stupid but like he didn't care for it much, which is why I think he sold it.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 25, 2015, 12:38:24 PM
I have no idea, I got the bike with the CalSci and it took me a while to figure out what brand it was because the previous owner didn't know what he had even though he is the one that bought it. He was a nice guy but he seemed clueless about the bike, not stupid but like he didn't care for it much, which is why I think he sold it.

Must be a BMW lover  ::)
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 25, 2015, 12:46:22 PM
Must be a BMW lover  ::)

He had 4 other really expensive sport bikes, including an Aprilia RSV-4 and they were all in mint condition.
He told me that he didn't use it much and I believe him. The C14 didn't have a scratch or mark on it. When he described it as showroom condition, he was dead on, accurate.
I had no problem buying used from him, I am very happy with my purchase.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 25, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
He had 4 other really expensive sport bikes, including an Aprilia RSV-4 and they were all in mint condition.
He told me that he didn't use it much and I believe him. The C14 didn't have a scratch or mark on it. When he described it as showroom condition, he was dead on, accurate.
I had no problem buying used from him, I am very happy with my purchase.

How many miles did he have on it when you took it off his hands and, if you don't mind my asking, how much did he let it go for?

I bought mine a year ago this last May...it's a 2012, had 5325 miles on it and I paid 10k. Best 10k I've ever spent!
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 25, 2015, 01:08:56 PM
How many miles did he have on it when you took it off his hands and, if you don't mind my asking, how much did he let it go for?

I bought mine a year ago this last May...it's a 2012, had 5325 miles on it and I paid 10k. Best 10k I've ever spent!

It had 8500 miles on it and I got for $8000 with everything included. He didn't have the stock exhaust and he only had 1 FOB.
He mistakenly told me that it was the passive FOB which is how I used it for the first 2 months. I did tons of reading about the FOB on this forum which is how I found out that is was the active FOB he gave, and he had simply put the battery in backwards. Now that I don't have to hold the FOB up to the ignition switch, I love the FOB!

I think the FOB thing had something to do with why he sold the bike. He never mentioned it but now that I know about the FOB, it makes sense.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 25, 2015, 01:22:21 PM
It had 8500 miles on it and I got for $8000 with everything included. He didn't have the stock exhaust and he only had 1 FOB.
He mistakenly told me that it was the passive FOB which is how I used it for the first 2 months. I did tons of reading about the FOB on this forum which is how I found out that is was the active FOB he gave, and he had simply put the battery in backwards. Now that I don't have to hold the FOB up to the ignition switch, I love the FOB!

I think the FOB thing had something to do with why he sold the bike. He never mentioned it but now that I know about the FOB, it makes sense.

LOL...that's funny about the FOB. That's a good buy and you'll love the Concours! I've had mine for 15 months now and have put 30,000 miles on it. I just added a Baldwin GT seat and it has made all the difference in the world...made my bike so comfortable! I love my bike!!
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 25, 2015, 01:54:37 PM
LOL...that's funny about the FOB. That's a good buy and you'll love the Concours! I've had mine for 15 months now and have put 30,000 miles on it. I just added a Baldwin GT seat and it has made all the difference in the world...made my bike so comfortable! I love my bike!!

It really was funny and I am very happy I found out about the FOB.
WOW! You ride the hell out of your bike.
Sadly I have only put about 2000 miles on mine but I am planning on some long trips late September thru October.
I really do love the bike. I have always had sport bikes and I still have my B-King but I am really enjoying the comfort of cruising along with all my stuff.
The backpack thing was getting old!
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 25, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
It really was funny and I am very happy I found out about the FOB.
WOW! You ride the hell out of your bike.
Sadly I have only put about 2000 miles on mine but I am planning on some long trips late September thru October.
I really do love the bike. I have always had sport bikes and I still have my B-King but I am really enjoying the comfort of cruising along with all my stuff.
The backpack thing was getting old!

I know exactly where you're coming from because I was a "sport bike" rider too before this bike. I ride mine pretty much every day. I commute, ride on weekends and road trip when I can. I just did a 5,000 mile road trip back in June...greatest trip EVER!
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 25, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
I know exactly where you're coming from because I was a "sport bike" rider too before this bike. I ride mine pretty much every day. I commute, ride on weekends and road trip when I can. I just did a 5,000 mile road trip back in June...greatest trip EVER!

I need to ride more but I hate riding to work because when I do the bike sits outside baking in the sun which strokes me out, LOL!
One time I walked out to the parking lot at work to check on the B-king, only to find to clueless, morons smoking on either side of my bike dropping ashes all over it, I almost died! That was the last time I rode to work and that was about 3 years ago!
I would love to do a ride to Utah, I think that would be awesome. I have never done a ride like that but I will before I die.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 25, 2015, 02:33:58 PM
I need to ride more but I hate riding to work because when I do the bike sits outside baking in the sun which strokes me out, LOL!
One time I walked out to the parking lot at work to check on the B-king, only to find to clueless, morons smoking on either side of my bike dropping ashes all over it, I almost died! That was the last time I rode to work and that was about 3 years ago!
I would love to do a ride to Utah, I think that would be awesome. I have never done a ride like that but I will before I die.

Where do you live? I ride mine to work and cover it with a $20 bike cover I bought from Amazon!
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 25, 2015, 02:45:21 PM
Where do you live? I ride mine to work and cover it with a $20 bike cover I bought from Amazon!

Huntington Beach but I work in Santa Ana.
It is a locked parking lot but there are tons of looky loos that can't seem to leave my stuff alone. I put my helmet on top of a file cabinet in my little office but someone still came in when I wasn't there and touched my helmet for some reason.
I only know because there were fingerprints all over my shield!
Yep, massive, cranial collapse ensued!
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 25, 2015, 02:58:15 PM
Huntington Beach but I work in Santa Ana.
It is a locked parking lot but there are tons of looky loos that can't seem to leave my stuff alone. I put my helmet on top of a file cabinet in my little office but someone still came in when I wasn't there and touched my helmet for some reason.
I only know because there were fingerprints all over my shield!
Yep, massive, cranial collapse ensued!

That's weak...no one should be touching your gear!

I'm not far from you...Ojai (Ventura County). I figured you lived somewhere out here when you said you wanted to ride to Utah. Once you take off and ride somewhere like that you won't want to stop...it's the best! I'm in the process of trying to convince my wife to let me purchase a tinted CeeBailey's windscreen. I currently have the MRA X-creen (tinted) and love it but need something for cold weather...just-in-case, and it HAS to be tinted! Clear doesn't look good now that I've had the MRA on the bike.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a209/mikeb2411/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/20150815_174007_zps2blgtwql.jpg) (http://s12.photobucket.com/user/mikeb2411/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-08/20150815_174007_zps2blgtwql.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: gPink on August 25, 2015, 06:16:11 PM
FZBear10, if you haven't got a second fob yet make it a priority.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 25, 2015, 06:52:12 PM
FZBear10, if you haven't got a second fob yet make it a priority.

Aren't they expensive? I only received one when I bought my bike.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: gPink on August 26, 2015, 03:55:13 AM
If you lose your only fob, large active or small passive, you will be buying a new ecu plus fobs plus programming at a dealer.
In the neighborhood of a $1000. Get another fob.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: AlbertaDoug on August 26, 2015, 07:42:38 AM
If you lose your only fob, large active or small passive, you will be buying a new ecu plus fobs plus programming at a dealer.
In the neighborhood of a $1000. Get another fob.

Paid $251.89 for a Fob then $63.00 to have it programmed and it didn't even come with a key. They wanted more for the extra key. (But that is up here in Calgary)
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 26, 2015, 08:12:23 AM
I bought a new passive FOB but when I took it to the dealer to get it programmed they told me they lost the cable to hook up the bike to program it. I am trying to find another local Kawi dealer to bring it to.
One FOB strokes me out
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 26, 2015, 08:26:11 AM
So, forgive me for being ignorant here but, I have the main FOB and I have an additional "key" that the guy gave me when I bought the bike. Is that additional "key" the passive FOB or should I have 2 FOB's...the one I am using and an adiitional FOB just like it? I'm confused  ??? :-[
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 26, 2015, 08:48:54 AM
So, forgive me for being ignorant here but, I have the main FOB and I have an additional "key" that the guy gave me when I bought the bike. Is that additional "key" the passive FOB or should I have 2 FOB's...the one I am using and an adiitional FOB just like it? I'm confused  ??? :-[

From what I found out each C14 comes from the factory with 2 FOBs. 1 active FOB which you can start the bike within 5 feet of proximity and the passive FOB which you have to hold directly to the ignition casing on the front side for the bike to start. Some year models came with 2 active FOB's, not sure which ones though. The active FOB has a key in it to open the gas cap, saddlebags, and remove the seat.
I also only got one FOB when I bought my bike and I was told it was the passive FOB but that was incorrect information. It is actually the active FOB.
I bought a spare passive FOB which I am trying to get programmed to at least have 1 spare because I am certainly not cool with spending about a $1000 for a new ECU, new FOBs to program, and labor to do it.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: gPink on August 26, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
search the word    fob   there's no end to the reading.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 26, 2015, 10:23:48 AM
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12986.0;attach=23135;image (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12986.0;attach=23135;image)

This is the picture that changed my life!
Passive FOB on the left and Active FOB on the right.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 26, 2015, 10:46:15 AM
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12986.0;attach=23135;image (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12986.0;attach=23135;image)

This is the picture that changed my life!
Passive FOB on the left and Active FOB on the right.

Thanks FZBear, that's what I needed to see...I HAVE THE 2nd FOB  :banana!!!
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 26, 2015, 11:06:07 AM
Thanks FZBear, that's what I needed to see...I HAVE THE 2nd FOB  :banana!!!

Now you just need to get a the passive FOB and get it programmed so you have a spare.
I bought the passive FOB but I am having trouble finding a dealer to do it.
It seems that it may be easier to split the atom.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 26, 2015, 11:09:07 AM
Now you just need to get a the passive FOB and get it programmed so you have a spare.
I bought the passive FOB but I am having trouble finding a dealer to do it.
It seems that it may be easier to split the atom.

It was the FOB that was given to him when he bought the bike from the dealer so it should be programmed...yes?
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 26, 2015, 11:15:49 AM
It was the FOB that was given to him when he bought the bike from the dealer so it should be programmed...yes?

Yes, but if that one FOB that you have is lost or damaged, the dealer will not be able to program a new one without you buying a new ECU along with new FOBs to program.
That event will be in the neighborhood of $1000 w/ parts and labor which is why I am desperately trying to get my spare passive FOB programmed. When I finally get it handled, the spare FOB will go in the same locked safe where my vehicle titles are.
Having 1 FOB and losing it is catastrophic.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 26, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
Yes, but if that one FOB that you have is lost or damaged, the dealer will not be able to program a new one without you buying a new ECU along with new FOBs to program.
That event will be in the neighborhood of $1000 w/ parts and labor which is why I am desperately trying to get my spare passive FOB programmed. When I finally get it handled, the spare FOB will go in the same locked safe where my vehicle titles are.
Having 1 FOB and losing it is catastrophic.

That's what I did...placed the passive FOB in my safe.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 26, 2015, 11:59:28 AM
That's what I did...placed the passive FOB in my safe.

I thought you only had the one FOB.
If you have both you are golden
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 26, 2015, 12:05:01 PM
I thought you only had the one FOB.
If you have both you are golden

LOL...now I'm completely confused...sorry! I have what you showed in the pic you posted. I don't have a 2nd "primary" FOB, just the primary and the smaller "back-up" FOB that was given with the original purchase of the bike.

So, what I'm reading from you and the others is that you are trying to program a 2nd FOB that would replace your "primary" FOB that you currently carry when you ride...you're looking for replacement for that. Is that correct?
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 26, 2015, 12:25:01 PM
LOL...now I'm completely confused...sorry! I have what you showed in the pic you posted. I don't have a 2nd "primary" FOB, just the primary and the smaller "back-up" FOB that was given with the original purchase of the bike.

So, what I'm reading from you and the others is that you are trying to program a 2nd FOB that would replace your "primary" FOB that you currently carry when you ride...you're looking for replacement for that. Is that correct?

If you have both active and passive FOBs as in the picture, you are fine. If you lose one of either of those you can still start your bike with the remaining one.
I only got one FOB with my bike, period.
It happens to be the active FOB but if I lose that one FOB, I am royaly screwed. I bought the passive FOB to have a spare like you have in your safe but I am having trouble getting it programmed for my bike.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: gPink on August 26, 2015, 12:29:00 PM
The active fob also has the passive chip which can be separated from the fob in effect giving you two separate ways to start the bike til you get a second fob. I think it was member jwh20 who posted this with pics.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: mikeb2411 on August 26, 2015, 12:36:16 PM
If you have both active and passive FOBs as in the picture, you are fine. If you lose one of either of those you can still start your bike with the remaining one.
I only got one FOB with my bike, period.
It happens to be the active FOB but if I lose that one FOB, I am royaly screwed. I bought the passive FOB to have a spare like you have in your safe but I am having trouble getting it programmed for my bike.

I'm with you now   :banghead:
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on August 26, 2015, 02:35:52 PM
The active fob also has the passive chip which can be separated from the fob in effect giving you two separate ways to start the bike til you get a second fob. I think it was member jwh20 who posted this with pics.

It actually looks like you were the one that posted the pic, thank you by the way.
That was the picture that fully made me understand what FOB I had and that the battery was put in wrong by original owner. Now I can start the bike without holding the FOB up to the ignition.
That really sucked by the way because I thought that was normal for about 2 months.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: martin_14 on August 31, 2015, 10:35:34 AM
I bought a Givi windshield for my C14. I tried finding info on here before I got it but I couldn't find anything. This screen is awesome, I had the Cal Sci on there before but it caused tons of buffeting. This one seems a lot quieter with a lot less buffeting. I bought it used on ebay and it was a real shot in the dark as I had no idea what it would be like, but for the price, I pulled the trigger. I am very pleased with how it looks and works.
I am 5-10 by the way.

a week late to this party, but I also have that Givi windshield and absolutely love it. It's cosseting enough in winter, while being small enough for all but the hottest weather. It's been on the bike almost since new, 62 000 miles and 5 years ago, because neither my girlfriend nor I could live with the tiny OEM shield. I've tested it to 167 mph and it's alright.
Title: Re: Givi Windshield
Post by: FZBear10 on September 01, 2015, 08:38:26 AM
a week late to this party, but I also have that Givi windshield and absolutely love it. It's cosseting enough in winter, while being small enough for all but the hottest weather. It's been on the bike almost since new, 62 000 miles and 5 years ago, because neither my girlfriend nor I could live with the tiny OEM shield. I've tested it to 167 mph and it's alright.

I went for a 300 mile ride this weekend so I really got to try out the new windscreen at all speeds and it is great.
It was a really hot day so at slower speeds I was getting very warm but when I was cruising at freeway speeds it was awesome.
I recommend it to anyone thinking about getting one.