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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: elp_jc on June 06, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
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http://www.twistedthrottle.com/ (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/)
MRA vario
I really like mine
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Get the Copper Dawg painted in the Ebony Black choice.
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CB Euro mini in dark tint. Love mine.
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Love my Cal-Sci
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I've got the CalSci tinted shorty and like the way it works for me. Full airflow to your head and upper chest when down, and enough deflection when raised to provide decent protection. I'm 5'11" w/ 32" inseam, and I always wear foam earplugs under a full-face helmet.
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There is one more option that never gets brought up. The Puig tinted screen. I bought it and I love it.
Mike
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Stock shield on my '12 is 13 5/16" from top of shield to the center of the top mounting hole when measured without following the curve of the shield.
I'm a bit longer yet in the torso than you. 6' with 31" inseam... I hope to get my donor shield here soon. I'll start cutting it down & report back what I find.
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I must have lost the addled remnants of my mind. My MRA is both shorter and tinted. Maybe it goes by a different name?
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10-9/16" from top mount screw to top of shield
7-1/2" from top mount screw to bottom of shield
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/Gigantor17/frontal_c14.jpg)
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Hey Gigantor, thank you for that photo and input. Yeah, yours is pretty much what I want in lenght. Plus being flat (not curved upward), meand windblast would be lower than stock even if the same length. What you left out in both posts is the description of your screen. Is it also the 'shorty tinted'? Yes
If so, two more questions. Does it seem to bounce around more than stock (due to being so thin) Not at all, same as stock!
And forgot to ask everybody how prone to scratches is your tinted screen. No scratches, I keep wax on it though
. How about yours? I'm between this one and the CB 'mini euro'. Oh, and another comment I forgot: I MUCH prefer a screen that looks stock, meaning it does NOT have (or it can be removed) a logo. No Logo
That rules out the MRA, since they etch it into the screen. At least that was the case on a BMW one I bought. RWNielsen, could you please confirm that? If etched, then I won't keep looking for the one you have. Let me get back to you on this
JoeRau, thank you for that info. Seems like it's almost the same length. The one I'm curious about is from an '09, or Gen1. But since they never came in tinted version, it's just curiosity. If I'm going to buy a screen, might as well be the way I want it (tinted).
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NOT have (or it can be removed) a logo. That rules out the MRA, since they etch it into the screen. At least that was the case on a BMW one I bought. RWNielsen, could you please confirm that? If etched, then I won't keep looking for the one you have.
I have a tinted MRA also and can confirm the logo is still etched in.
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No Etching on shield
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MRA has a logo, dead center. Unobtrusive but it's there
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In warmer weather, I use a stock shield take off from an '08. Short enough for plenty of air flow to my chest, but when fully raised, would give adequate protection in rain. I love it. Only thing is, I have to wear ear plugs when riding with the short shield (unless I keep it raised).
Oops! Sorry. Just noticed you wanted info on tinted shields. Mine is not tinted, but I have read of others who tinted theirs by various means, including paint. But mine's clear. Sorry.
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Here's the Cal-Sci tinted shorty on my '08.
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The shield is thinner than the stocker but the only issue that I had as a result of the thinner material is that I had to double up on the plastic washers when installing the screen.
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You're going to like the CB mini euro. It's a nice thick windshield, that puts the air at my chin in full down position, but the shield is also large enough for when it rains, while in the up position. Plus the dark tint is the bomb!
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Decided on the CB Mini Euro folks. I want something that looks stock, and with stock quality. And the CB seems to have the edge in quality over all others, especially being even thicker than stock, instead of the much thinner alternatives that require extra washers, or some other methods to make up for that difference. The great news is I can make the screen any length I want without an extra charge, but I obviously forfeit the right to exchange it. Since I wouldn't want anything else, will order it that way, but will try to determine how shorter. I'm almost sure I'll go with 11", instead of the 12" it comes with. Reason is Gigantor, who seems to have the same torso size as me, said his CalSci shorty (10.75") still provides adequate rain protection when fully raised. I also want that. And with 2 inches shorter plus no reverse lip, I should have the wind blast low enough in my torso that turbulence doesn't hit my neck, making lots of noise inside my helmet, even with earplugs. That is my goal. Hope I can achieve that. Will not order until I can ride the bike later today, but if somebody has any suggestions as of length of the mini euro, I'd gladly consider them. If the 12" stock mini euro was to satisfy that criteria (clean wind in my helmet), then I'd order it. But rather err on the side of a bit shorter than needed than not enough. Thank you for all your help folks; greatly appreciate all of it.
Let me know how you like it. Please give actual dimensions, specially apex to apex. Additionally I would
like to know how sturdy it is at speed > 100 mph
Thank you
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Let me know how you like it. Please give actual dimensions, specially apex to apex. Additionally I would
like to know how sturdy it is at speed > 100 mph
Thank you
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Does anyone know if the tinted shield deflects more bugs than the clear since it can be seen and therefore better avoided? My clear shield is just a mess.
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You are SO thoughtful! Those poor bugs need all the help they can get. ::)
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You are SO thoughtful! Those poor bugs need all the help they can get. ::)
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Does anyone know if the tinted shield deflects more bugs than the clear since it can be seen and therefore better avoided? My clear shield is just a mess.
No but the darker the tint the less bugs you see from your side. :)
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RWNielsen: The MRA Vario is a TOURING screen, and not offered tinted. I want a tinted sport screen, as in shorter than stock.
My MRA Vario is tinted and very short. What were you looking at? When I clicked on RWNielsen's link it just went to twisted throttles main page
Here is a link to the one I have. http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-variotouring-screen-windshield-for-kawasaki-concours-gtr1400-08 (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-variotouring-screen-windshield-for-kawasaki-concours-gtr1400-08)
Notice that it is tinted, but extended to the full raised position. Not sure why they don't show it in the low position.
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More than short, want the windblast below my neck, so helmet is not as noisy. Plus I like wind in my chest, but don't want the screen so short that it doesn't deflect rain over my visor. That screen of yours is a 'touring' version, even though it's short. Guess that 'spoiler' has the same effect as being taller. By the way, their middle photo is all the way down.
All the way down, but with the spoiler up. The air hits me in the chest when I am riding with the screen down and spoiler down. It is nice to have many adjustments which that screen provides.
In the summer the Concours is just too dam hot to ride. I prefer naked bikes, but they are just not practical to tour on.
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EJP, you might want to carefully consider your choice of cutting the CB Mini euro 2". I think that doing so, your going to eliminate any rain protection on your visor. Especially if you are taller then 5' 08"
Just rode mine 330 miles in the rain today, do I have plenty of knowledge on this.
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The nerve! Asking about a lady's inseam ... right here on a public, family oriented forum!
Oh ... but then ... I guess there would BE no families if no guys ever inquired about a lady's inseam.
OK sorry, resume topic.
So ... Isn't it amazing the details riders go to to get that windscreen 'just right'?? I guess that indicates just how good the rest of the bike is ...
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Have you ridden with no screen to see what it is like?
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Twowheeladdict, no, haven't ridden the bike without screen. But that wouldn't help me one bit man. Trying to go down from 13" stock, down to 10" tops... not without a screen. Besides, you need some kind of screen, even if very short; they're there for a reason. Thanks anyway man.
I wasn't suggesting you ride without a screen permanently. Just to try it and gauge where the air hits you and how it feels as you are trying to determine screen size.
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Hey, I didn't ask for her cup size, or a photo of her butt man. Maybe I'm just naive, but I don't find any sexual innuendo on inseam size. At any rate, I just need torso size; hope you don't find anything wrong with that ::). The reason I ask is most women are shorter than men, and with longer legs as well, meaning they have much shorter torsos than us. That being the case, I'd need a longer screen to have the same effect she has, and that's exactly what I'm trying to guess in an unscientific way :).
Twowheeladdict, no, haven't ridden the bike without screen. But that wouldn't help me one bit man. Trying to go down from 13" stock, down to 10" tops... not without a screen. Besides, you need some kind of screen, even if very short; they're there for a reason. Thanks anyway man.
I'm pretty sure that he was speaking tongue in cheek. Lighten up a bit man, it's all in good fun.
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I'm pretty sure that he was speaking tongue in cheek. Lighten up a bit man, it's all in good fun.
Confirmed.
I was beginning to think my already weak ability to convey 'humor' had completely died.
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Well in the interest helping a fellow cogger with buying the perfect windscreen, I'll help. I'm 5' 8" and I have a 30 inseam. And since others were curious, I'm a bit top-heavy with the girls in a 38d.
After another 240 miles in Canadian wind and rain today, I can honestly say that a shorter windscreen would be counter productive and would downright suck. In the past 10 day, I've logged 600 miles in substantial rain. Yes rain is my deciding factor in my windscreen. When it's dry, I have it all the way down., wind in my face.
Hope this helps
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You'll have to update your signature block map when you get home. ;)
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Confirmed.
I was beginning to think my already weak ability to convey 'humor' had completely died.
Some folks have no sense of humor so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
I find humor where ever I can but that's just me. ;)
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Confirmed.
I was beginning to think my already weak ability to convey 'humor' had completely died.
Nope, it's still pretty much there as far as I'm concerned.
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Well in the interest helping a fellow cogger with buying the perfect windscreen, I'll help. I'm 5' 8" and I have a 30 inseam. And since others were curious, I'm a bit top-heavy with the girls in a 38d.
After another 240 miles in Canadian wind and rain today, I can honestly say that a shorter windscreen would be counter productive and would downright suck. In the past 10 day, I've logged 600 miles in substantial rain. Yes rain is my deciding factor in my windscreen. When it's dry, I have it all the way down., wind in my face.
Hope this helps
Nicole,
we know you were trying to assist, but clearly it doesn't apply to people that lament endlessly over something like this...
We also know that YOU will actually leave your home on the bike in pouring rain, and ride litterally thousands of miles in mixed weather, and enjoy it..
I'm the same way....I've ridden this C14 in pouring rain, drinking from the firehose, more miles than some folks here will put on their bike total in 10 years, if they keep it that long....
Glad you had an epic ride up here, and a safe return, keep up the good stuff girl, you rock.
Rain is God's way of helping you wash your bike....somewhat. I think my bike looks great in the rain, it sure looks pity-full sitting in a corner of a garage tho.
I use a stock '08 windscreen, and a Laminar Lip, set overlapping the top edge by 1"
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Although you meant it as a joke, I suspect your friend list might grow larger with that piece of information. Ha ha. Hey, thanks a lot for helping with the other info. We have a difference of 1" in torso size only. What about your ergos? Did you change anything on your bike, like barbacks or lower seat? I know you lowered the suspension, but that doesn't change ergos. Thank yohu again.
Had to read that again I thought you wrote barebacks ::) ;D
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EJP, I'm not sure where you came up with the wrong information that I lowered my suspension. That is still stock.
And my boobs don't make my friends, my personality does.
Rich, thanks for your kind words. AA you said, I'm on an epic ride. Today was the tourist crap at Niagara Falls. Too many people for my liking. I'm in Western NY now. Besides the rain, this is very pretty state.
Time for a cold one, and a burger with the locals in Salamanca.
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ride safe girl, enjoy, there was a cool bar that had great food really close to Kissing Bridge ski slope, I think it was called Typhoid Mary's back in the mid '70's, bet its gone now hbo... I was up there styaing at George McGovern's niece's house and skiing there... fun times, and old flames....
be safe, get home safe, p/m me if you have on road issues...
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That proves my case about humor here ::). And also why I only use this (and the other) forum for information, not friends (big, small, or no boobs :P). The majority of active folks here just rub me (and I rob them) the wrong way. Anyway, didn't get the answer I wanted, but I'll eventually get the screen size right. I'm done here.
ELP - Aw come on, man. Everybody swings and misses sometimes ... just as I thought my attempt at humor had :chugbeer:
Anyway ... good luck on your screen search ... OH, and get a dark tinted one so nobody can see your boobs through it :P
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Actually, I find this fascinating! I am old enough to have gray hair and never knew that females have shorter torsos than males- interesting. Your height and inseam seem to confirm that Nicole as I am 6'2" and only have a 32" inseam. Now I am going to have to measure my wife tonight (Easy Boys! with a tape measure!).
Man, the stuff ya' learn on a motorcycle forum.....
Then again, I can be pretty slow- I was old enough to have two kids more than 10 years old before I found out raisins are really grapes. I thought raisins started off as.... well, raisins and came from a raisin bush or a raisin tree or something. True story. And before everyone breaks my chops about this, yes, I know that cheese, milk and eggs all come from cows.
Brian
And the other guy said "The reason I ask is most women are shorter than men, and with longer legs as well, meaning they have much shorter torsos than us."
Well in the interest helping a fellow cogger with buying the perfect windscreen, I'll help. I'm 5' 8" and I have a 30 inseam. And since others were curious, I'm a bit top-heavy with the girls in a 38d.
After another 240 miles in Canadian wind and rain today, I can honestly say that a shorter windscreen would be counter productive and would downright suck. In the past 10 day, I've logged 600 miles in substantial rain. Yes rain is my deciding factor in my windscreen. When it's dry, I have it all the way down., wind in my face.
Hope this helps
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A quick Google search told me that generally, a woman has shorter legs than a man the same height.
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Hmmmm- now I may again not know what I did not know before.
Going to check into the whole raisin thing again too, just to be sure.
Brian
A quick Google search told me that generally, a woman has shorter legs than a man the same height.
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That proves my case about humor here ::). And also why I only use this (and the other) forum for information, not friends (big, small, or no boobs :P). The majority of active folks here just rub me (and I rob them) the wrong way. Anyway, didn't get the answer I wanted, but I'll eventually get the screen size right. I'm done here.
Does somebody have a soggy diaper?
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Evidently so. I'm completely gob smacked over the humor bit. I think I'll just have a beer a sulk awhile. :'( Ok, better now. ;D
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I just cracked one open as well. Here's to ya Jim! As a matter of fact, I think I'm in your neck of the woods. I'm staying at Tuggles gap, just outside of Floyd VA
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In addition, when discussing windshield dynamics, why was the "ape index " not mentioned?
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I just cracked one open as well. Here's to ya Jim! As a matter of fact, I think I'm in your neck of the woods. I'm staying at Tuggles gap, just outside of Floyd VA
Make sure that you eat the Tuggle's Gap pie right off the parkway. My wife and I had some a couple of weeks ago.
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Make sure that you eat the Tuggle's Gap pie right off the parkway. My wife and I had some a couple of weeks ago.
Mission complete!
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That proves my case about humor here ::). And also why I only use this (and the other) forum for information, not friends (big, small, or no boobs :P). The majority of active folks here just rub me (and I rob them) the wrong way. Anyway, didn't get the answer I wanted, but I'll eventually get the screen size right. I'm done here.
Does somebody have a soggy diaper?
:rotflmao: ..well now I do.. :rotflmao:
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Don't cry folks.....I am sure he will be dispensing more tech advise on another thread! Someone said he has more threads then mileage.....that was funny!
Jim H