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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: jasoncp4 on April 01, 2015, 10:27:02 AM
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Hi All,
I just purchased a 2008 C14 that has a Bakup USA backrest on it. I want to use my Givi V46 top case I had on the FJ1200 I just sold and still have a backrest (wife doesn't like the pad on the Givi)
I saw that you can do that with the AST backrest but says you can't open the case all the way with the V46. (Naturally as that's the one that I have)
Any suggestions? Sell the V46 and get a different case?
Thanks,
Jason
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Hi All,
I just purchased a 2008 C14 that has a Bakup USA backrest on it. I want to use my Givi V46 top case I had on the FJ1200 I just sold and still have a backrest (wife doesn't like the pad on the Givi)
Hey Jason, I have the GIVI E55 for my bike and my wife also hated the back pad. I took everything over to a local seat builder (including the wife) and they cut and shaped the back pad and now my wife loves it!
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Thanks for tip, any chance you have a pix of the new backrest?
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Thanks for tip, any chance you have a pix of the new backrest?
Yep...I'll pot as soon as I can
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Umm..."post" as soon as I can :o
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:)
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Phil has a set of rails that will fix you up, no problems. You may have to move the backrest plate forward slightly by drilling new holes but most likely not. How do you attach the top case with the plate on?
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You can't attach a case with the Bakup USA backrest, I was going to get the plate and backrest from AST and then read that it won't work with the V46, which of course is the one I have.
Is that what you were asking?
Thanks,
Jason
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what specifically prohibits it?
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the plate wasn't designed to put a to put a topcase on it.
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By the pictures on Bakup's website it doesn't look like any topcase will work with that backrest due to the way it mounts on top of the rack.
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Right, that's why I'm trying to find out if anyone is using a V46 with a separate backrest. If I get the one from AST I can't use the V46 I already have.
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I've seen the Corbin seat/backrest used with the trunk. Can't think of any other though there may be. AST is tough to do business with if you go that route. Search the forums for info on AST.
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The plate looks flat with holes. As I said you may need to drill 4 more holes for maximum clearance but that it up to you. You can use Phils rack with the SW Motech kit that allows a Monokey box to be used. Order of install
1. Phils rails.
2 Use closest two sets available holes to seat for the Backrest plate
3 Use the SW kit on a Phils rack and use the farthest set of holes for Phils Rack.
Look at my picture and you will see I mounted the rails, Custom World Backrest plate, and then Phils rack with the SW kit on top. You may need to customize the install a little but if mine worked so should this. As a matter of fact the new plate AST is using looks identical to my Custom World plate. I had to open up the holes a tiny bit to get it perfect. You are better off ordering a CUSTOM WORLD backrest that chancing anything with AST
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/DSC02917_zpsidnsvztf.jpg)
You can see the threaded hole here your closest set of holes on the backrest plate will bolt to, the backrest plate goes below Phils rack and on top of his rails. It is not installed in this photo but you can see where it will
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/DSC02918.jpg)
Here is the new plate that looks just like the Custom world but the old should work if you have it
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/ASC%20plate_zpsqzn1mu6p.jpg)
Here is the three parts together. Phils rails to bike mounts, Custom Worls backrest plate, then Phils monokey rack setup
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/cw_zpsvevd4u7d.jpg)
The backrest without the box attached
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/2012-12-18%20Heli%20Installed%20003%20-%20Copy%201024x753_zpseamhlatd.jpg)
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Source and installed photo on stock setup. Phils rails allows both to work together, and his rack takes the place of the stock rack allowing the V47 to attach via the SW Motech kit he sells
(http://aviciouscycle.ca/images/productimages/Custom-world-ZG1400-back-rest.jpg)
CUSTOM WORLD BACKREST
http://aviciouscycle.ca/Mainpages/productpage.aspx?product=4489 (http://aviciouscycle.ca/Mainpages/productpage.aspx?product=4489)
The note in the bottom does not take into account the mods you will do with Phils rack and rails, look at my bike, IT DOES WORK and plenty room to open the E55. The E55 is larger than the V47
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I wonder if the Bakup mounting plate would fit under the rack with Phils rails?
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It looks like the support bar will be too close to the box. But as I said if there is room to drill new holes in the plate it may work. But on the other hand you can use any of the holes on Phils rails and make the new drilled holes closer together. Sandwiched in there, it will be a solid install.
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at almost twice the price I would not try unless you already have one.
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I wonder if the Bakup mounting plate would fit under the rack with Phils rails?
Below is what I am referring to. Just drill new holes in this location
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use any holes on the rail you want, make them closer like I pic below. They will be secured by the Phils Rack when it is tightened on top also for added strength.
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This would appear to solve the op's problem allowing him to use the backrest and topcase he already has.
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Yea, maybe he will choose to do it and document with photos for future searches..hint hint..
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The bike I just bought has a bakup USA backrest on it, I wouldn't have picked this one if I was buying a backrest.
Thanks for all the advice and I will be sure to document and post what I figure out.
Jason
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Good luck, look forward to it. It is an expensive backrest so hopefully you can make it work. You have a nice bike there, very clean and original.
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Getting closer to an answer to my problems. Got a Corbin seat on the way and have the V46 mounted with the SW-MOTEC plate but I don't see on Phils site where you can buy the rails. Do you have to buy the plate to get the rails?
Jhanks,
Jason
The plate looks flat with holes. As I said you may need to drill 4 more holes for maximum clearance but that it up to you. You can use Phils rack with the SW Motech kit that allows a Monokey box to be used. Order of install
1. Phils rails.
2 Use closest two sets available holes to seat for the Backrest plate
3 Use the SW kit on a Phils rack and use the farthest set of holes for Phils Rack.
Look at my picture and you will see I mounted the rails, Custom World Backrest plate, and then Phils rack with the SW kit on top. You may need to customize the install a little but if mine worked so should this. As a matter of fact the new plate AST is using looks identical to my Custom World plate. I had to open up the holes a tiny bit to get it perfect. You are better off ordering a CUSTOM WORLD backrest that chancing anything with AST
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/DSC02917_zpsidnsvztf.jpg)
You can see the threaded hole here your closest set of holes on the backrest plate will bolt to, the backrest plate goes below Phils rack and on top of his rails. It is not installed in this photo but you can see where it will
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/DSC02918.jpg)
Here is the new plate that looks just like the Custom world but the old should work if you have it
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/ASC%20plate_zpsqzn1mu6p.jpg)
Here is the three parts together. Phils rails to bike mounts, Custom Worls backrest plate, then Phils monokey rack setup
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/cw_zpsvevd4u7d.jpg)
The backrest without the box attached
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/2012-12-18%20Heli%20Installed%20003%20-%20Copy%201024x753_zpseamhlatd.jpg)
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JASONCP4: I don't advertise the rails, I make them to-order and sometimes people have different needs. Also, the rails CAN be reversed to put more rmovement forward.