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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: ninjawarrior1400 on June 20, 2011, 02:28:38 PM

Title: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: ninjawarrior1400 on June 20, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
For those members who have to think about using a magnetic oil drain plug, or ask their wives or girlfriends if they can spend $8.95 to buy one..........look at this pic!

Do you feel lucky punk......well do ya?


Ninja
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: RickC14 on June 20, 2011, 02:35:36 PM
Someone should learn how to use the clutch.  ;)
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 20, 2011, 02:37:50 PM
Well, I've checked mine and thank goodness I don't see any filings on it like in your picture.  In fact, I didn't see anything on it but oil, but I didn't have my glasses on at the time. 
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: Conrad on June 20, 2011, 03:08:19 PM
Here's a pic of my mag plug after the second oil change. The first oil change was done at 580 miles and I installed the mag plug at that time. The second change was done at ~ 3600 miles.

That's pretty much a metallic mush stuck to the mag.
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 20, 2011, 03:11:58 PM
That's what you get for washing your bike....
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: Conrad on June 20, 2011, 03:25:43 PM
That's what you get for washing your bike....

 :rotflmao:

That and a clean bike baby!

No warped rotors either...
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 20, 2011, 03:31:00 PM
 :battle:
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: usttobee50 on June 20, 2011, 03:56:31 PM
For those members who have to think about using a magnetic oil drain plug.....look at this pic!

Enuf said!

Ninja

You guys should try a "FilterMag",goes on the outside of your oil filter, and traps any metal on the inside of your filter, away from the oil flow. When you change filters the gunk is thrown away with the filter. You can find these on e-bay for a discounted price. The size that fits our bikes is :....SS250. Go to this site for info.  ;D  8)
http://www.shopfiltermag.com/ (http://www.shopfiltermag.com/)
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: mikeboileau on June 20, 2011, 04:39:21 PM
You guys should try a "FilterMag",goes on the outside of your oil filter, and traps any metal on the inside of your filter, away from the oil flow. When you change filters the gunk is thrown away with the filter. You can find these on e-bay for a discounted price. The size that fits our bikes is :....SS250. Go to this site for info.  ;D  8)
http://www.shopfiltermag.com/ (http://www.shopfiltermag.com/)

I think I saw a video of the filtermag girl.....
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: martin_14 on June 21, 2011, 01:28:06 AM
You guys should try a "FilterMag",goes on the outside of your oil filter, and traps any metal on the inside of your filter, away from the oil flow. When you change filters the gunk is thrown away with the filter. You can find these on e-bay for a discounted price. The size that fits our bikes is :....SS250. Go to this site for info.  ;D  8)
http://www.shopfiltermag.com/ (http://www.shopfiltermag.com/)

I find it interesting. Have you personally used it? In your bike? with what results?
If FredH is around... what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: VirginiaJim on June 21, 2011, 04:00:48 AM
FredH is not around...
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: Conrad on June 21, 2011, 05:19:19 AM
You guys should try a "FilterMag",goes on the outside of your oil filter, and traps any metal on the inside of your filter, away from the oil flow. When you change filters the gunk is thrown away with the filter. You can find these on e-bay for a discounted price. The size that fits our bikes is :....SS250. Go to this site for info.  ;D  8)
http://www.shopfiltermag.com/ (http://www.shopfiltermag.com/)

"away from the oil flow"? doesn't the oil flow through the filter?
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: Conrad on June 21, 2011, 05:20:26 AM
FredH is not around...

Our loss...
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: usttobee50 on June 21, 2011, 02:18:04 PM
"away from the oil flow"? doesn't the oil flow through the filter?

...What I should have said is, the FilterMag holds the any metal attracted by the magnet on the wall of the filter, keeping it out of the direct flow of the oil going through the filter media. I have yet to cut open an old filter to see just how much crude is caught on the filter walls, but it has to be a lot more than would be caught on the small tip of a magnetic plug. The magnet is very strong, as a matter of fact, it is difficult to pull off the filter when replacing with a new one. The pic on their site shows the surface area of metal trapped by the FilterMag. I like the fact that there's no magnet inside of my engine that could break loose and cause big problems, very simple and effective. I use one on my Chevy pickup, my C-14, and my Mean Streak. I will open the filter on my next oil change and will post pics. Now, least any of you think I have any interest in the product other than sharing what I think is a great product with my fellow riders, think not! I just think it is a much better solution than a small magnet on the end of  a drain plug which is inside your engine. As I said earlier, these can be purchased on E-bay or Amazon at a much lower price than quoted on the dealers  site.  8)
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: comet on June 21, 2011, 02:52:53 PM
Another option is to stick an old computer harddrive magnet to the outside of your filter...
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: usttobee50 on June 21, 2011, 02:57:12 PM
Another option is to stick an old computer harddrive magnet to the outside of your filter...

Comet....I did just that for a while, while it does work, it doesn't have near the magnetic surface area of the FilterMag....Just sayin... ;D  8)
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: ZG on June 21, 2011, 03:03:11 PM
I think I saw a video of the filtermag girl.....

 :P
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: Rawman on June 21, 2011, 06:45:05 PM
I just remember some things bouncing...... :yikes:
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: booger on June 21, 2011, 07:06:21 PM
On a new bike I change oil, filter and install a magnetic plug as soon as I drive it home from the dealer.  I then change at oil and filter at 300 and 500 miles.

You would be amazed a the metal shavings and particles you recover!!  Worst I had was on a new KLR 650........thought the metal particles would never stop
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: ZG on June 21, 2011, 07:07:46 PM
I just remember some things bouncing...... :yikes:


Me too... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/boobiesbounce3z.gif)  ;D
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: Boomer on June 22, 2011, 09:58:15 AM
I never saw the point of magnetic plugs.
They catch only the steel pieces and most of those would be picked up by the filter anyways.
Any bigger pieces will get swept away by oil flow anyways.
One of the reasons that wet sump motors last longer is that crud can settle to the bottom of the sump, out of harms way, and stay there.

When I first removed the sump from Sanji's motor there was about 3mm of metallic sludge at the bottom and this was after running Wynns Engine Flush in the oil for the last 50 miles.

I cleaned it out with solvents and some 10,000 miles later when I did gearbox rebuild #2 the sump was still clean but the 3rd time it had about a 1mm film.

Otto's motor has 160,000 miles and has never had anything other than Wynns every 4th or 5th oil change since I bought him @ 82,000 miles.
I change oil and filter every 6,000 miles and use unbranded semi-synth 10W40.
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: ninjawarrior1400 on June 22, 2011, 10:03:14 AM
I put 1 inch round cobalt magnets on the oil filter, the bottom of the magnetic oil drain plug, and the bottom of the rear end magnetic oil drain plug....the cobalt magnets are super powerful and you have to handle them very carefully or they snap together with such ferocity...it often pinches the skin and causes bleeding....

I guarantee you there is nothing inside my oil pans, or rear end housing of a metallic nature floating around!
Just to give me that warm fuzzy feeling........
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: ninjawarrior1400 on June 22, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
Opinions are like toilet paper.....some use it to wipe with.....some don't wipe at all....the choice is yours....!
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: Conrad on June 22, 2011, 02:37:33 PM
Opinions are like toilet paper.....some use it to wipe with.....some don't wipe at all....the choice is yours....!

I tried wiping with an opinion once, I made a hellofa mess. I'll stick with the toilet paper thanks. 
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: ZG on June 22, 2011, 02:38:28 PM
I tried wiping with an opinion once, I made a hellofa mess. I'll stick with the toilet paper thanks.


 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: stevewfl on June 22, 2011, 06:04:41 PM
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/iconhammer.gif)
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: IRULE on July 01, 2011, 11:07:15 PM
The real question is why are you changing oil on a Honda Rebel?  I hope that is your loaner bike when you C14 is in Service at the dealership....   ;D
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: ninjawarrior1400 on July 03, 2011, 07:05:47 PM
This pic was merely to demonstrate how a magnetic plug can work for you...nothing more does not matter if it is on a Honda Rebel or a lawnmower....magnets work the same way to remove small metal particles...

Ninja
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: ZG on July 03, 2011, 08:34:54 PM
 ;D ;D ;D


HSPN SEMA 07 - Filtermag Product Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjssdrZP4t4#)

Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: Bradley14 on July 05, 2011, 05:24:13 AM
I use the magnetic bolt in my driveshaft and change fluid everytime with engine oil-the driveshaft mag plus always some metalic particles on it-the engine oil does not. 
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: McJunkie on July 05, 2011, 06:07:51 AM
I was wondering how she got the magnet thingy to stick to a plastic bottle.
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: So Cal Joe on July 05, 2011, 07:52:28 AM
http://www.shopfiltermag.com/ (http://www.shopfiltermag.com/)

$42.75 is kind of high for a magnet!!! O.K. now how many if any, have had a failure due to metal  in the oil?
I have run way over 100,000 miles on a Gold Wing and many of my friends have run close to and over 200,000 miles on them with out a filter mag or a magnetic drain plug and never a problem. Do your first oil change early and then change the oil and filter on a regular interval and you will be fine.
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: SimonSaysDie on July 05, 2011, 07:52:46 AM
I just liked watching her shake the bottle.   ;D
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: Conrad on July 05, 2011, 08:33:38 AM
I was wondering how she got the magnet thingy to stick to a plastic bottle.

What bottle?
Title: Re: Pic of a worthless Magnetic Oil Drain Plug on a Honda Rebel with 3,000 miles..
Post by: mikeboileau on July 05, 2011, 06:10:43 PM
What bottle?

What magnetic thingy?...

 :o