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The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => The Bike - C10 => Topic started by: Engraverwilliam on March 11, 2015, 09:19:24 AM

Title: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: Engraverwilliam on March 11, 2015, 09:19:24 AM
Admittedly, I just got Sparrow (My c10) I've been splitting LA traffic for over a year on my other bike. Sparrow however is really wide with her mirrors. I've been looking at a very nice set of bar end mirrors that place the mirror on the ends and kind of above the hands.  Sometimes I split the 10 with the mirrors folded in because I've had so many close calls with mirror slapping.  I do not like folding them in though because then I cannot see if other bikes are behind me.


EDIT: After further consideration, I've decided to hold off on this idea.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: Two Skies on March 11, 2015, 12:22:38 PM
Ya know... with some creative mirror alignment, you could go with 4 mirrors instead of 2 (2 on the fairing, 2 on the bars).  The main issues with this that I can see would be making sure that the handlebar mirrors still clearing the fairing when you turn the bars, and of course aligning the mirrors to they aren't blocking each other's view.

Then you could just fold the Connie mirrors in when lane splitting, and still have the handlebar mirrors to see behind you with. 

The other issue with this would be that you'd slowly lose firmness due to friction from constant folding on the Connie mirrors (due to wear) so they might not want to stay positioned right (drag would slowly fold them inwards).  If you had a bunch of spare change and really good mechanical crafting skills, I suppose you could make 'electric folding mirrors' that fold back at the flip of a switch...
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: twowheeladdict on March 12, 2015, 11:09:12 AM
Fold them in and mount a rear view camera system on your bike.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: qman on March 12, 2015, 11:45:54 AM
I know this won't go over well, but, lane splitting is courting disaster.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: Sgt Mac on March 12, 2015, 12:18:08 PM
I know this won't go over well, but, lane splitting is courting disaster.

I know many non-motorcyclists who feel the same way about riding in general.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: Sgt Mac on March 12, 2015, 12:22:14 PM
Just my opinion, but if you have to fold the mirrors in, you aren't allowing enough room. I filter but always allow a little extra just to make sure, its a bit easier here because its an expected behavior and the vast majority of motorists will concede lane space to do so.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: Engraverwilliam on March 12, 2015, 02:49:06 PM
Yeah, I generally do have enough room to split. a lot of folks even move over too. It's just that our mirrors are at the same height as so many cars out there. In a year I never tapped anyone. in the 3 weeks I've had Sparrow, I've tapped two people so far. Always low speed thank goodness, and I always apologized. They are cheep enough, [the aux mirrors] might be worth a try. 
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: jworth on March 12, 2015, 04:32:48 PM
If you have the bags attached, I believe they actually represent the widest part of the bike, granted they are lower and generally under the mirrors of cars, but it's worth considering.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: jimmymac on March 12, 2015, 05:09:36 PM
I hate to preach, but while we're on the subject of mirrors, Everyone needs a pair of spot mirrors.
get the wedge ones shaped like a door stop. Position the spot where you see nothing but elbow anyway. I can't ride or drive without them after getting used to them. They're awesome and absolutely required. ;)

I put my '08 ZX14 back to stock before trading it in. The ride to the Dealer without my spot mirrors was the worst ride ever. Once you get used to them, you can't ride without them. Yes, I'm talking to you. Get some.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: LessPaul on March 13, 2015, 06:56:36 AM
Got an example, jimmy? Did a quick search and didn't see anything wedge shaped.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: jimmymac on March 13, 2015, 07:47:35 AM
You bet, Paul. Let me get home tonight and I'll get a pic for you.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: Sgt Mac on March 13, 2015, 12:59:28 PM
I hate to preach, but while we're on the subject of mirrors, Everyone needs a pair of spot mirrors.
get the wedge ones shaped like a door stop. Position the spot where you see nothing but elbow anyway. I can't ride or drive without them after getting used to them. They're awesome and absolutely required. ;)

I put my '08 ZX14 back to stock before trading it in. The ride to the Dealer without my spot mirrors was the worst ride ever. Once you get used to them, you can't ride without them. Yes, I'm talking to you. Get some.

I definitely use blind spot mirrors, round ones. Help to spot scooters creeping up in heavier traffic that I have to work through while they can glide on past.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: jimmymac on March 13, 2015, 03:40:01 PM
Looks like a hassle to post pics from my phone. They  carry them at any Wal-Mart or auto parts store. Round ones and rectangular ones.
The rectangular ones are wedge shaped. The round ones work, but the others give you a wider view. 8)
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp236/Jimmymac25/meanandgreen006_zps8259856f.jpg) (http://s415.photobucket.com/user/Jimmymac25/media/meanandgreen006_zps8259856f.jpg.html)

(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp236/Jimmymac25/meanandgreen009_zps4b596bee.jpg) (http://s415.photobucket.com/user/Jimmymac25/media/meanandgreen009_zps4b596bee.jpg.html)

You can kind of see them in these shots...





Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: RFH87_Connie on March 16, 2015, 05:34:11 AM
Here's one of mine.  I make a little wedge out of plastic (window tint squeegee) to angle it outward a little more than just stuck to the flat glass.  Glue it on with "Shoe-goo" - sticks to glass great.
Title: Re: Bar End Mirrors & Lane Splitting.
Post by: Diff22000 on March 18, 2015, 10:36:19 AM
I use a piece of equipment called Riderscan.  Basically it is a mirror that cuts out blind spots and it has saved me a couple of times.   It does not negate the need for shoulder checks,  but it makes riding a lot easier.