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Title: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Deziner on February 26, 2015, 06:24:52 AM
I just came to the realization that I can't read my gps without my reading glasses.  :(  It appears that I'm gonna have to find some sunglasses with "cheater bifocals".  Can anyone suggest a good source? Since I never ran gps on my other bikes it hasn't been an issue. For years I've worn Ray Ban Aviators and have been spoiled by the high quality glass lenses. I've had the same pair since 2004 due to the fact that they are really difficult to scratch. Any suggestions?  (Other than a typical Google search)   Thanks
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Rhino on February 26, 2015, 06:47:12 AM
I found some on Amazon that are pretty good. I'm not certain but I think this is them:

http://www.amazon.com/Radians-RSB-415-Rad-Sequel-Lightweight-Polycarbonate/dp/B002RS89LU/ref=pd_sim_hi_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=1E6TB5E2ZT74W8E368K9 (http://www.amazon.com/Radians-RSB-415-Rad-Sequel-Lightweight-Polycarbonate/dp/B002RS89LU/ref=pd_sim_hi_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=1E6TB5E2ZT74W8E368K9)

Very cheap so I bought 3. Semi wrap around so good wind protection. Over the ear is straight back so easy to put on with a full face helmet. And believe it or not the optics are reasonable. I can read my GPS no problem.

The other thing I have done with more expensive sun glasses is to use those stick on lenses like these:

http://www.amazon.com/Hydrotac-Stick--Bifocal-Lenses-Diopter/dp/B00GHR8YWQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1424958337&sr=8-2&keywords=stick+on+reading+lenses (http://www.amazon.com/Hydrotac-Stick--Bifocal-Lenses-Diopter/dp/B00GHR8YWQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1424958337&sr=8-2&keywords=stick+on+reading+lenses)

They are soft plastic and with sharp scissors and be cut down to be more rectangular. But I haven't done that since I found the other ones on Amazon.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: harry76 on February 26, 2015, 06:48:49 AM
Sounds like it is time to go to the optometrist and get some prescription glasses.
I have been using bifocals for several years and some of the prescription style are excellent.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Rhino on February 26, 2015, 06:54:42 AM
Sounds like it is time to go to the optometrist and get some prescription glasses.
I have been using bifocals for several years and some of the prescription style are excellent.

I've had some excellent prescription, bifocal sunglasses/sports goggles as well. If you have a good vision plan or money is no object, that is definitely the way to go. In fact I recommend Wiley X. But even with an outstanding VSP plan my out of pocket was something like $150. When I was without insurance for almost a year, and had lost my prescription glasses is when I found the $6 glasses on amazon.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: gPink on February 26, 2015, 07:13:26 AM
Might try this and let us know how it works. Don't start any fires.
http://youtu.be/KUPSbrcirPg (http://youtu.be/KUPSbrcirPg)
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Rhino on February 26, 2015, 07:21:50 AM
Might try this and let us know how it works. Don't start any fires.
http://youtu.be/KUPSbrcirPg (http://youtu.be/KUPSbrcirPg)

Interesting, haven't seen that before. The video uses my exact Garmin NUVI GPS. But bifocals completely solve my issues.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Deziner on February 26, 2015, 07:25:06 AM
Thanks, Guys. I think I'll order the glasses from Amazon today and try that route. If I don't like a $6 option it doesn't hurt very bad.  :)

Speaking of Amazon, I think I might check out Prime. If I understand it correctly, you can now store music to listen to off-line without having to pay for the downloads individually. I think it comes free with Prime. If that's the case, I may opt to do that and get rid of my XM on the bike.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: clogan on February 26, 2015, 09:14:02 AM
You might try Zenni Optical. Internet site, enter your prescription specs, and your glasses arrive in a week or so. I have two pair of bi-focal sunglasses from them, and two more pair of regular bi-focals. I have been very satisfied. You must have your prescription first, though. prices range from roughly $25-$75, depending on frames, UV coating, progressive lenses or not (I don't like them), and other optional equipment.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: philipintexas on February 26, 2015, 09:39:11 AM
I bought several pairs from "sunglass rage" good service and excellent quality at a reasonable price. I no longer carry my prescription tri-focals.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Deziner on February 26, 2015, 09:59:58 AM
Mercifully my vision at any distance over about 4 feet is still excellent. I only need glasses for the up close stuff. I will check out the other suggested sites though. I appreciate the assistance y'all are giving me!
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: mvjr1904 on February 26, 2015, 10:07:43 AM
I went to my local Safety Supply store in San Diego and bought some clear ANZI.72 rated safety glasses with the bifocal insert on the lower half.
Good thing about going to the Safety Store was that I brought in my helmet to see which pair would fit into my helmet.

What I also learned was that they also make safety glasses with the bifocal magnification on the upper portion of the glass, clear glass through the center and bifocal magnification on the lower portion.
If you have to look at something overhead, the dual magnification would prevent you from having to crank up your neck to focus at what your trying to read.
For those who wear bifocal and need to look up and read something, you know what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: just gone on February 26, 2015, 10:36:49 AM
What I also learned was that they also make safety glasses with the bifocal magnification on the upper portion of the glass, clear glass through the center and bifocal magnification on the lower portion.
Sounds like something a commercial pilot could use with all those overhead switches and indicators. Just the opposite of what I need.  :)

Needing prescription glasses to see far normally and now of course needing close up assistance (I say now, but it's been at least 15 years, maybe 20  ::) ) I have a particular problem with my high mount GPS in that I need a far lens up top for the road, a near lens in the lower middle to see the GPS, and then a far lens in the bottom so I can see whats bouncing around in my side mirrors. I'm going to try some of (like Rhino mentioned earlier) these modified with scissors on regular set of single vision lenses to see if I can make that work.

http://www.stickonbifocals.com/ (http://www.stickonbifocals.com/)

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Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on February 26, 2015, 03:05:51 PM
I'm going to try some of (like Rhino mentioned earlier) these modified with scissors on regular set of single vision lenses to see if I can make that work.

http://www.stickonbifocals.com/ (http://www.stickonbifocals.com/)

Unfortunately I have to wear bifocals now, too.  It sucks.  Anyway, I bought the HydroTac ones (above) on Amazon a few months ago and put them in my [crazy expensive Rayban curved polarized] prescription sunglasses so they would also be readers.  They do actually work.  I had to cut them down in size some.  And they don't stick all that well, so you have to be a little careful.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: sherob on February 26, 2015, 04:45:32 PM
I just have Rayban curved polarized w/ my prescription lenses in them... bifocals too.

Target Optical using VSP.   
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Rhino on February 26, 2015, 04:59:53 PM
I just have Rayban curved polarized w/ my prescription lenses in them... bifocals too.

Target Optical using VSP.

Does the polarized give you problems with you LCD screen? They do in my truck. I have to turn my head at a angle to read the LCD on the radio.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on February 26, 2015, 05:05:36 PM
I just have Rayban curved polarized w/ my prescription lenses in them... bifocals too.

My Ranbans are two prescriptions out of date (7.5 years old now) and at that time, I didn't really need bifocals.  I seem to remember them also saying they couldn't put bifocals in them back then.  I can't remember for sure (since it didn't matter to me at that time).  I DO remember they were incredibly expensive... I had never spent that much on glasses before ($450?? or something insane).  But I have to admit, they were actually worth it.  Best glasses/frames ever.

Thanks for the info.  I am due now for my next eye exam, and I think it is time to consider a new pair of those, and with bifocals!

Back to the bike.... I have moderate astigmatism in both eyes, but my distance vision is still good enough that I can, THANKFULLY, get away with not wearing them on the bike.  The bike dashboard is just far enough and big enough that I can also read it.  But I admit am having a lot of trouble with the Zumo 450 now, which is much closer to me and much smaller text/info  :(   It already takes me so long to get ready to ride now, I deplore the idea of having to fool with glasses too.

BTW- there is another option too, Optix also makes a larger version of their stick-ons that might work on the helmet visor:  http://optx2020.com/p-23-hydrotac-diveoptx-stick-on-lenses-for-divers-large.aspx (http://optx2020.com/p-23-hydrotac-diveoptx-stick-on-lenses-for-divers-large.aspx)  A little pricey as an experiment, but maybe worth considering.  And one can probably get by with just one lens, so the other can be saved for when the first gets lost or damaged.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on February 26, 2015, 05:13:42 PM
Does the polarized give you problems with you LCD screen? They do in my truck. I have to turn my head at a angle to read the LCD on the radio.

There are two types of polarizers (that I know of)- straight and circular.  And straight can be at any angle.  Sunglasses need to use straight and vertical polarization in order to cut glare.  But many vehicle LCD screens are circularly polarized or use horizontal or diagonal polarizers to prevent interference with sunglasses.  I don't know which the Concours uses, but if it uses vertical, it would pose a problem for polarized sunglasses.

http://www.eyekit.co/information/lenses/polarizing-lenses-explained.html (http://www.eyekit.co/information/lenses/polarizing-lenses-explained.html)
 
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Rhino on February 26, 2015, 05:27:11 PM
There are two types of polarizers (that I know of)- straight and circular.  And straight can be at any angle.  Sunglasses need to use straight and vertical polarization in order to cut glare.  But many vehicle LCD screens are circularly polarized or use horizontal or diagonal polarizers to prevent interference with sunglasses.  I don't know which the Concours uses, but if it uses vertical, it would pose a problem for polarized sunglasses.

http://www.eyekit.co/information/lenses/polarizing-lenses-explained.html (http://www.eyekit.co/information/lenses/polarizing-lenses-explained.html)

Good info. That explains why I have a problem on one screen but not another.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Deziner on February 26, 2015, 07:53:53 PM
The things you learn.... amazing wealth of knowledge here.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: RDS on February 27, 2015, 04:49:14 AM
Same problem here. I found a company called: Boomersintheknow.com
Yeah for us older folks with failing eyes. The were inexpensive and a large selection. Once you find a solution to seeing things below the handlebars you'll be glad you did.
Richard
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: clogan on February 27, 2015, 08:31:43 AM
Mercifully my vision at any distance over about 4 feet is still excellent. I only need glasses for the up close stuff. I will check out the other suggested sites though. I appreciate the assistance y'all are giving me!

If that's the case, you might find something at your local Dollar Store (Dollar General, Family Dollar, Dollar Tree, et al). Back when my distance vision was still good, that's what did.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Classvino on February 27, 2015, 08:44:36 AM
I have polarized prescription bifocals (both clear and sunglasses. Sunglasses are good in the van and on the bike. I wish the division between top and bottom prescriptions was a little bit lower on the lens, but I just let the glasses slide a little south on my nose and everything's fine.  We'll ask for that next time.

I've noticed that the LCD screen (on the bike) is just a little bit dark with them on, but it's just about black if I have the visor down as well...  Not sure if the visor is adding a polarizing effect as well, or if it's just some weird unexplained (to me anyway) phenomenon...

I usually ride with the visor halfway open anyway, so it's never been a real problem, just a nuisance sometimes...

Jamie
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: B.D.F. on February 27, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
Of all the changes due to aging, at least so far, the biggest PITA for me has been my near vision going down the tubes. I do not mind wearing glasses to correct this but it causes all kinds of problems as I do not wear glasses for distance, not the least of which is I am now having trouble reading a GPS on the bike. Growl. Working on anything in another gigantic pain because the glasses get dirty, slip (although I have a pair of magnetic jobs that DO NOT slip) into a different and useless position or I cannot get the lens between my eyeball and what I want to see. Annoying! And now I need different diopter glasses for different tasks, more annoying!

Oh well, I guess if that is my worst medical problem or condition, I am in great shape. Still, the reading glasses thing makes what used to be effortless now either difficult or impossible.

For the GPS I think I am going to get a couple of welder's magnifying lens and attach them to the bottom of my visor.

Brian

I have polarized prescription bifocals (both clear and sunglasses. Sunglasses are good in the van and on the bike. I wish the division between top and bottom prescriptions was a little bit lower on the lens, but I just let the glasses slide a little south on my nose and everything's fine.  We'll ask for that next time.

I've noticed that the LCD screen (on the bike) is just a little bit dark with them on, but it's just about black if I have the visor down as well...  Not sure if the visor is adding a polarizing effect as well, or if it's just some weird unexplained (to me anyway) phenomenon...

I usually ride with the visor halfway open anyway, so it's never been a real problem, just a nuisance sometimes...

Jamie
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on February 27, 2015, 03:36:32 PM
For the GPS I think I am going to get a couple of welder's magnifying lens and attach them to the bottom of my visor.

You might want to try the Optix large I just mentioned if you plan on adding to the visor.  They are more expensive, but how would you attached a solid, non-curved, welder's magnifying lens insert onto a shield?
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: B.D.F. on February 27, 2015, 03:44:54 PM
Duct tape. Neatly applied, of course, because 'Nothing screams bad craftsmanship like wrinkles in your duct tape!'.

I cut the lenses up as needed and then just use something like a dab of hot- glue or silicone seal to keep them in place.

Brian

You might want to try the Optix large I just mentioned if you plan on adding to the visor.  They are more expensive, but how would you attached a solid, non-curved, welder's magnifying lens insert onto a shield?
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on February 27, 2015, 05:01:25 PM
Duct tape. Neatly applied, of course, because 'Nothing screams bad craftsmanship like wrinkles in your duct tape!'.

LOL!

Quote
I cut the lenses up as needed and then just use something like a dab of hot- glue or silicone seal to keep them in place.

Oh Brian, that is not up to your standards!!!!  You are going to embarrass Concours owners everywhere :)
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PH14 on February 28, 2015, 01:30:41 PM
I have a pair of Ray-Bans with no line progressive lenses. I bought them here: http://www.readingglasses.com/search/?searchinput=&sorting=0&cat_id=_1000113&view=0 (http://www.readingglasses.com/search/?searchinput=&sorting=0&cat_id=_1000113&view=0)

They also have Maui Jim's with bifocal lenses.

They are a good company to order from.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on February 28, 2015, 03:07:10 PM
I have a pair of Ray-Bans with no line progressive lenses. I bought them here: http://www.readingglasses.com/search/?searchinput=&sorting=0&cat_id=_1000113&view=0 (http://www.readingglasses.com/search/?searchinput=&sorting=0&cat_id=_1000113&view=0)

I keep learning more and more!  I had no idea that progressive, non-prescription reading glasses with plain-o tops even existed, much less sunglasses.  No polarized options, though, which is a bummer (especially at some of those prices).
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: philipintexas on February 28, 2015, 04:07:45 PM
I've noticed several references to polarized glasses, these are a disaster for me on a motorcycle. Any plastic that's been shaped into a curve has induced stress areas, face shield, windscreen etc and polarized lenses make those areas of stress visible as colors. Engineers use this phenomenon to model structures in plastic and expose them to stress to visualize areas of concentrated stress. I've tried polarized lenses and I can't see through a plastic surface without a rainbow of colors disrupting my vision. Add two layers and it's really disruptive. I use only non-polarized lenses. Results may vary....
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on February 28, 2015, 05:06:01 PM
I've been wearing bifocal sunglasses / safety glasses for over 10 years, we used to have a COG member that had a site called sunglasses guy, but I can't find him, I bought 4 sets of those wraparound style units, that came with clear and dark bifocal lenses and 3 other shades, including amber night lenses, for about $20 delivered... well, they cost more now, as the demand seems higher...

quick google gave me these tho,
http://sunglassrage.com/bifocal-sunglasses/?gclid=CISJwN_qhcQCFQuBaQodK6gAHw (http://sunglassrage.com/bifocal-sunglasses/?gclid=CISJwN_qhcQCFQuBaQodK6gAHw)

still, you can get what ya need..

personally I think paying $100 for a pair of glasses that don't come from an eye doctor is ridiculous... it's all in the name they carry, and if you drop them, or sit on them, you're out $100.... silly.
The best reading glasses I have cost $19, and I have progressive "Lacoste" framed  main working glasses I paid $400 for from my eyedoctor, that really don't compare to the el-cheepo's... go figger'

just to note, I originally went in search of these when I was on the way home from a ride, and had to read maps on my tank bag map holder, so I was wearing mini reading glasses down low on my nose inside my helmet... well, after an hour in bright sun, scanning the map, and looking over the tops while riding, I realized the reading glasses were focusing the sun glare off the plastic on the map cover directly to my retina's... and the resulting sunburn and UV welding burn was obvious....
ouch...
no more of that nonsense, and unfortunately my progressive reading glasses (no mag on top, some mag in middle for computer screen distance, and lateral scanning, and high mag on bottom) simply recreate the intense retinal burn...

takes a few miles to get used to the bifocal sunglasses, but when you get them right, and simple scan down with the eyes to see the gps, it works really well.. oh, and refrain from the polarized ones... most modern helmet shields are polarized, and my helmet has a flip down internal tinted "aviator style" insert, which doubles the polarized effect... they don't mix with polarized glasses at all...
ymmv
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: tweeter55 on February 28, 2015, 06:04:04 PM
Here ya' go. Instead of a GoPro...you get the idea:
http://youtu.be/3_hAioFWeco (http://youtu.be/3_hAioFWeco)
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on February 28, 2015, 09:55:23 PM
Here ya' go. Instead of a GoPro...you get the idea:

What is that in reply to?
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: just gone on February 28, 2015, 11:21:34 PM
Here ya' go. Instead of a GoPro...you get the idea:
http://youtu.be/3_hAioFWeco (http://youtu.be/3_hAioFWeco)

What is that in reply to?

I wondered the same thing. ..and...and..., how do we know it wasn't a GoPro, Bro? (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/confused/dunno-smiley-emoticon.gif)


Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 01, 2015, 08:01:00 AM
They also have Maui Jim's with bifocal lenses.

Not to be confused with VirginiaJim..
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PH14 on March 01, 2015, 08:51:32 AM
I've been wearing bifocal sunglasses / safety glasses for over 10 years, we used to have a COG member that had a site called sunglasses guy, but I can't find him, I bought 4 sets of those wraparound style units, that came with clear and dark bifocal lenses and 3 other shades, including amber night lenses, for about $20 delivered... well, they cost more now, as the demand seems higher...

quick google gave me these tho,
http://sunglassrage.com/bifocal-sunglasses/?gclid=CISJwN_qhcQCFQuBaQodK6gAHw (http://sunglassrage.com/bifocal-sunglasses/?gclid=CISJwN_qhcQCFQuBaQodK6gAHw)

still, you can get what ya need..

personally I think paying $100 for a pair of glasses that don't come from an eye doctor is ridiculous... it's all in the name they carry, and if you drop them, or sit on them, you're out $100.... silly.
The best reading glasses I have cost $19, and I have progressive "Lacoste" framed  main working glasses I paid $400 for from my eyedoctor, that really don't compare to the el-cheepo's... go figger'

just to note, I originally went in search of these when I was on the way home from a ride, and had to read maps on my tank bag map holder, so I was wearing mini reading glasses down low on my nose inside my helmet... well, after an hour in bright sun, scanning the map, and looking over the tops while riding, I realized the reading glasses were focusing the sun glare off the plastic on the map cover directly to my retina's... and the resulting sunburn and UV welding burn was obvious....
ouch...
no more of that nonsense, and unfortunately my progressive reading glasses (no mag on top, some mag in middle for computer screen distance, and lateral scanning, and high mag on bottom) simply recreate the intense retinal burn...

takes a few miles to get used to the bifocal sunglasses, but when you get them right, and simple scan down with the eyes to see the gps, it works really well.. oh, and refrain from the polarized ones... most modern helmet shields are polarized, and my helmet has a flip down internal tinted "aviator style" insert, which doubles the polarized effect... they don't mix with polarized glasses at all...
ymmv

I will say that the lenses in mine are great. I have no issues with them. Yes, of course if you buy a frame from a manufacturer like Ray Ban, or Maui Jim, they will cost more, but that is true whether you buy plain lenses in them or progressive lenses. I have issues with cheap sunglasses lenses, many are not very good optically and cause me to have eyestrain and headaches.

There are cheaper options from www.readingglasses.com (http://www.readingglasses.com) though, and I don't think $95 for a pair of progressive lens sunglasses is expensive. I have had mine for over a year and use them almost daily, I travel and am on cruise ships almost weekly and spend a lot of time reading in the sun. They are good lenses and have not scratched, despite less than careful use.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: lather on March 01, 2015, 03:54:55 PM
One of the first safety tips I picked up about 40 years ago was not to wear polarized sunglasses on a motorcycle. It was said that the glare caused by oil or grease on the road surface could be masked by the polarized glasses resulting in a missed opportunity to avoid a crash.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Rhino on March 02, 2015, 07:21:06 AM
One of the first safety tips I picked up about 40 years ago was not to wear polarized sunglasses on a motorcycle. It was said that the glare caused by oil or grease on the road surface could be masked by the polarized glasses resulting in a missed opportunity to avoid a crash.

I never thought of that.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Classvino on March 02, 2015, 03:55:20 PM
I've noticed several references to polarized glasses, these are a disaster for me on a motorcycle. Any plastic that's been shaped into a curve has induced stress areas, face shield, windscreen etc and polarized lenses make those areas of stress visible as colors. Engineers use this phenomenon to model structures in plastic and expose them to stress to visualize areas of concentrated stress. I've tried polarized lenses and I can't see through a plastic surface without a rainbow of colors disrupting my vision. Add two layers and it's really disruptive. I use only non-polarized lenses. Results may vary....

That explains the weird vibrant colours in the sky...

I thought it was flashbacks...   But I don't have those experiences to flash back to...  I guess it's the polarization...

Jamie
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PeteTN_zgtr on March 03, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
www.readers.com (http://www.readers.com) is another good source for $15-20 glasses including sunglasses. I've got a couple of pairs of bi-focal sunglasses from them. I don't like wearing glasses when riding; seems to amplify any buffeting. The sunshield in my helmet works good for me. I put a strip of very dark tint across the top of it to block direct view of the sun.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on March 03, 2015, 10:46:34 PM
I put a strip of very dark tint across the top of it to block direct view of the sun.

That was a good idea!
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 04, 2015, 04:35:02 AM
They sell those strips somewhere.  I used to use them until I got the sunshades built into the visor along with a tinted external visor.  Problem with the strips were that they would peel off at the wrong times.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PH14 on March 04, 2015, 12:09:34 PM
I put a strip of very dark tint across the top of it to block direct view of the sun.

A good pair of sunglasses won't be affected by buffeting.

Another good trick, especially good for riding into a rising or setting Sun, is to put a small piece a strategically placed black electrical tape to the visor. You can move your head slightly to block the Sun. I have been doing this for years.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: MrPepsi on March 04, 2015, 12:12:19 PM
There are cheaper options from www.readingglasses.com (http://www.readingglasses.com) though, and I don't think $95 for a pair of progressive lens sunglasses is expensive. I have had mine for over a year and use them almost daily, I travel and am on cruise ships almost weekly and spend a lot of time reading in the sun. They are good lenses and have not scratched, despite less than careful use.

This is a good site, but I don't see a way to choose separate powers for the progressives. In other words, I'd like 1.00+ for looking down the road and 1.50+ for reading the gauges.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: B.D.F. on March 04, 2015, 01:57:16 PM
For the glare, a sheet of window tint across the upper and lower part of the visor works really well. The upper part for the sun obviously but the lower part to block the glare coming off the mirrors at night (this bike has relatively low mounted mirrors so reflect a lot more of the headlights of the vehicles following) as well as dimming down the instruments and gauges, which I find a bit bright.

As far as reading glasses goes, if I were you, I would just ask the dummy to look at things for you and relay the information. He does not need reading glasses after all.... right?

Now I have a mental image of that and a case of the chuckles..... :-)

Brian

A good pair of sunglasses won't be affected by buffeting.

Another good trick, especially good for riding into a rising or setting Sun, is to put a small piece a strategically placed black electrical tape to the visor. You can move your head slightly to block the Sun. I have been doing this for years.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on March 04, 2015, 02:38:16 PM
This is a good site, but I don't see a way to choose separate powers for the progressives. In other words, I'd like 1.00+ for looking down the road and 1.50+ for reading the gauges.

I don't think that makes sense....  "+" diopters for are close/near/reading (farsighted).  Looking at a distance (more than a few feet) any "+" adjustment will make things fuzzy (there are a few exceptions to this, but it is rare).  For distance vision correction, you would need a "-" diopter adjustment (nearsighted), something on your prescription from an optometrist.  And many people (myself included) also need a significant astigmatism (distortion) correction across all vision (it will affect near and far vision).
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: MrPepsi on March 04, 2015, 03:06:55 PM
Not sure what to tell you.
I can't read worth a **** without glasses.
However if I put on my doctor issued sunglasses which I use to drive with, I can read.
However they are clearly not as powerful as my reading glasses which are closer to 1.50+
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on March 04, 2015, 03:11:52 PM
Not sure what to tell you.
I can't read worth a **** without glasses.
However if I put on my doctor issued sunglasses which I use to drive with, I can read.
However they are clearly not as powerful as my reading glasses which are closer to 1.50+

Your doctor-issued [prescription] sunglasses are probably bifocals/trifocals/progressive (have both a "-" top and "+" bottom correction in them) or they might have one or the other (top or bottom) be plain and yet still have an astigmatism correction- which will affect/correct both near and far at the same time.  If they are not as powerful for reading, it could be the "+" (bottom section) prescription is out of date on your sunglasses and thus too weak.  This is not uncommon- my sunglasses' top prescription is way out of date simply because I was too cheap to spring for new lenses :)  And my main non-sunglasses glasses are now 2 years old and the +1.25 reading section is just starting to be a bit too weak.  I have an eye exam scheduled for next week and it wouldn't surprise me if I am now close to +1.5
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: MrPepsi on March 04, 2015, 03:12:34 PM
They are not bifocals. I would guess they have a power of 1.00 or less however.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on March 04, 2015, 03:17:10 PM
They are not bifocals. I would guess they have a power of 1.00 or less however.

With really low "+" powers (usually 0.25 to maybe 0.75) you can sometimes get away with looking through them for distance.  But +1.0 is really strong for trying to force your eyes use for distance and I would be surprised that is not ruining your distance vision.

If anyone is confused by what I am saying, lift your glasses up and try looking at something across the room through the reading section :)
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: MrPepsi on March 04, 2015, 03:43:14 PM
No doubt, you're probably right it is lower than 1.0.
I hate my new reading glasses around the office because I'm constantly taking them off and putting them back on to walk around and to read.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on March 04, 2015, 04:44:00 PM
No doubt, you're probably right it is lower than 1.0.
I hate my new reading glasses around the office because I'm constantly taking them off and putting them back on to walk around and to read.

I know exactly what you mean.  My distance vision, even with astigmatism is still good enough I really don't HAVE to wear glasses all the time (I don't wear them watching TV or on the motorcycle).... but the reading and computer is such a problem now that I gave up taking them on and off and on and off and just wear them all the time now.  I can't even read my watch without them now.  I surrender.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PeteTN_zgtr on March 04, 2015, 08:19:28 PM
They sell those strips somewhere.  I used to use them until I got the sunshades built into the visor along with a tinted external visor.  Problem with the strips were that they would peel off at the wrong times.

I put the strip on the built in retractable sun visor. It's not subject to any wind so it doesn't peel off. It's just very dark auto window tint with adhesive backing. I cut a strip to the width I liked and stuck it along the top edge of the sun visor. Works well for me. Tinted external shields are fine during the day but I occasionally ride at night, not much but when I do a tinted face shield is too dark. I hate wearing glasses inside the helmet, so this works good for me.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PeteTN_zgtr on March 04, 2015, 08:25:13 PM
A good pair of sunglasses won't be affected by buffeting.

Another good trick, especially good for riding into a rising or setting Sun, is to put a small piece a strategically placed black electrical tape to the visor. You can move your head slightly to block the Sun. I have been doing this for years.

Not sure about your first statement; buffeting coming into the helmet is probably more a function of the helmet/windshield/rider height combination.

Yeah, something at the top of the face shield is another option for blocking the setting sun. Tape could be used at the top of the sun visor too. Both are good options. I really like the retractable sun visors. Great idea!!!
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on March 04, 2015, 10:20:01 PM
I really like the retractable sun visors. Great idea!!!

I do too... one reason I bought the Scorpion EXO-1000 at the time.  Of course, they only included a "light smoke" tinted drop down (which is almost useless) to force the consumer to immediately buy a "dark smoke" one at $30...  Anyway, I don't think I can ever be without that feature now.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Rhino on March 05, 2015, 09:45:43 AM
I do too... one reason I bought the Scorpion EXO-1000 at the time.  Of course, they only included a "light smoke" tinted drop down (which is almost useless) to force the consumer to immediately buy a "dark smoke" one at $30...  Anyway, I don't think I can ever be without that feature now.

I've got one on my Shoei GT Air but I hardly ever use it.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PH14 on March 05, 2015, 10:50:45 AM


As far as reading glasses goes, if I were you, I would just ask the dummy to look at things for you and relay the information. He does not need reading glasses after all.... right?

Now I have a mental image of that and a case of the chuckles..... :-)

Brian

 :rotflmao: :chugbeer:
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Deziner on March 05, 2015, 10:51:47 AM
Got a retractable shade in my last helmet, I will never own another helmet without one. Interstate travel, into the setting sun, across the desert, for several hours at a time, that retractable shield is priceless.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 05, 2015, 10:59:05 AM
:rotflmao: :chugbeer:

You're laughing and toasting Brian, but you really don't know which one he's referring to... ::) ;)
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: just gone on March 05, 2015, 11:36:42 AM
Yeah, something at the top of the face shield is another option for blocking the setting sun. Tape could be used at the top of the sun visor too. Both are good options. I really like the retractable sun visors. Great idea!!!
I really like the Super-Visor. It keeps the glare off of the shield as well. I don't need the retractable sun visor near as much as I used to. I did a review of it but I couldn't find it here. Maybe I never posted it here?  :banghead:
I damaged my original mounts by being in a hurry and jamming my helmet in the side case with some other stuff and slamming the case shut. When it eventually came off I quickly missed it and reattached it with the sticky stuff and pop rivets.

Here is an old review (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158296)

And mine (http://ridemsta.com/mstaforums/general-discussion/super-visor-review/msg2069/#msg2069)
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: B.D.F. on March 05, 2015, 12:33:19 PM
Oh no, I really mean the dummy.... the one with the arm up his.... well, you know.

Man, if I had one o' dem thingies, I could have all kinds of fun; taste testing at restaurants, asking directions, looking up ladies' skirts, etc., etc. ad nauseum.

OFFTOPIC (yeah, like that was not already the case): long time ago, I was at a wedding and there were disposable cameras on top of the tables. I really did not know what they were for but assumed they were for people who forgot their own cameras (in other words, the person who took the photos kept the camera). Nope, it was for the people getting married..... unfortunately. Now while most people take their wedding photos above the table, I find it much more interesting to take my photos under the table. First of all, it is very amusing when the whole tablecloth lights up and no one knows why or what happened. And then of course there are the photos. Well, I got a little feedback from my photography: apparently I caught some old man scratching, some old woman who's thigh- highs.... were not and a couple of others. Great stuff.

Brian

You're laughing and toasting Brian, but you really don't know which one he's referring to... ::) ;)
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Rhino on March 05, 2015, 03:40:42 PM
Got a retractable shade in my last helmet, I will never own another helmet without one. Interstate travel, into the setting sun, across the desert, for several hours at a time, that retractable shield is priceless.

Actually I've been meaning to try putting a strip of electrical tape on the top of the retractable sun shade for riding into a setting or rising sun. I keep forgetting until the next time I find myself dipping my head to hide a low sun. Then I remember but soon forget.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: jirod on March 05, 2015, 03:52:53 PM
Actually I've been meaning to try putting a strip of electrical tape on the top of the retractable sun shade for riding into a setting or rising sun. I keep forgetting until the next time I find myself dipping my head to hide a low sun. Then I remember but soon forget.
I use window 'tinting' film. Home Depot. I bought the vinyl type that sticks by itself, removes without residue. One roll for $6. I use it on the inside of the visors including the tinted one. Works well. Stays in place.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Rhino on March 05, 2015, 03:58:22 PM
I use window 'tinting' film. Home Depot. I bought the vinyl type that sticks by itself, removes without residue. One roll for $6. I use it on the inside of the visors including the tinted one. Works well. Stays in place.

Excellent idea! I'll give it a try... that is if I can remember.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: jirod on March 05, 2015, 08:11:55 PM
Excellent idea! I'll give it a try... that is if I can remember.
Just place a strip of the film above or below the line of sight. Don't try to look through it. It is not optically flat.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PH14 on March 05, 2015, 08:16:54 PM
You're laughing and toasting Brian, but you really don't know which one he's referring to... ::) ;)

I had a pretty good idea.  :cannon:
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 06, 2015, 04:01:00 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PH14 on March 06, 2015, 09:29:49 AM
;D

 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: just gone on March 06, 2015, 10:10:17 AM
;D
:rotflmao:
I can only add......OOOHHH Yeaaaahhh (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/5346455)
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: PH14 on March 06, 2015, 01:27:23 PM
I can only add......OOOHHH Yeaaaahhh (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/5346455)

Okay, that seriously made me laugh out loud.  :rotflmao:

And I had never seen that clip before. I guess an audience member posted that. Here is the full video he posted on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GukKNrUuCDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GukKNrUuCDQ) These people were a lot of fun on stage.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: clogan on March 16, 2015, 07:52:50 PM
Wal-Mart has bi-focal sunglasses; I bought a pair today: $9.88.
They had various frame types, and assorted diopters from 1.00 all the way up to 2.50, which is what I got. Took a ride with them later, and am very happy. Good optics, frame size fits easily inside my full face helmet. I may buy a second pair to leave in the car.
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: maxtog on March 16, 2015, 07:59:54 PM
Wal-Mart has bi-focal sunglasses; I bought a pair today: $9.88.
They had various frame types, and assorted diopters from 1.00 all the way up to 2.50, which is what I got. Took a ride with them later, and am very happy. Good optics, frame size fits easily inside my full face helmet. I may buy a second pair to leave in the car.

That is a good deal.  I was at Bass Pro Shop (Hampton) last weekend and asked and they had some pretty good quality curved, polarized, bifocals for $98.  But they were also only available in half diopters (not quarter) from 1 to 3 and only available in one style, plastic only, and two colors.

I just had my 2yr eye exam on Thursday.  My distance vision and astigmatism have not changed.  But my near vision is now two quarter powers worse (+0.50 more)  :(    I went full-blown on my metal Ranbans, ordered replacement lenses- curved, polycarbonate, anti-scratch, anti-glare, polarized, bifocals, prescription.... $270 for just the lenses (ouch).
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: Deziner on March 16, 2015, 09:24:38 PM
My 10 yo Ray Bans are about hosed. Love Ray Bans, hate spending the $
Title: Re: Bifocal sunglasses
Post by: VirginiaJim on March 17, 2015, 03:54:12 AM
+1