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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: SimpleSimon on December 02, 2014, 11:40:26 AM

Title: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: SimpleSimon on December 02, 2014, 11:40:26 AM
I've a 2008 Connie and I am curious on whether that new vented screen on the 2015 will fit.  I saw the new screen and mounts at the Seattle IMS and it looks like it should fit.  Of course, I think that you will need to buy the plastic bits in addition to the screen.  Who is going to be the first person to try it?  Has anyone seen a parts list for the 2015 to gauge how much it will cost.

I think a tad bit of venting will solve any and all buffeting issues.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: gPink on December 02, 2014, 12:23:06 PM
You're talking about the one with the mail slot in it? Not for me. If you look at what Kaw get for it's oem screens now I doubt if it's in anyones budget.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Sgt Mac on December 02, 2014, 01:31:06 PM
You're talking about the one with the mail slot in it? Not for me. If you look at what Kaw get for it's oem screens now I doubt if it's in anyones budget.

Hah! Never thought of it like that, good analogy.

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Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Pilgrim on December 02, 2014, 04:15:51 PM


    :popcorn:
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: The Pope on December 03, 2014, 03:27:28 AM
You're talking about the one with the mail slot in it? Not for me. If you look at what Kaw get for it's oem screens now I doubt if it's in anyones budget but ZG's.
Fixed it for you gPink.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: gPink on December 03, 2014, 03:57:13 AM
 :)   I don't think ZG would ugly his bike up with it.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Conrad on December 03, 2014, 04:49:38 AM
:)   I don't think ZG would ugly his bike up with it.

+1 It IS pretty damn ugly.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: maxtog on December 03, 2014, 05:45:04 AM
+1 It IS pretty damn ugly.

+2

I like the CONCEPT, but the execution is pretty darn ugly.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Scaffolder on December 03, 2014, 04:41:03 PM
It's looking like a Transformer.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 03, 2014, 04:59:13 PM
Of course this is from the same people that designed the exhaust 'CAN' for both Gens of bikes and also the H2 exhaust 'CAN'.  Why are we surprised at this being fugly?
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: maxtog on December 03, 2014, 05:10:28 PM
Of course this is from the same people that designed the exhaust 'CAN' for both Gens of bikes and also the H2 exhaust 'CAN'.  Why are we surprised at this being fugly?

I would take a stock muffler several times over that mailslot thing.  Besides, I *like* the stock muffler.  It is a little large, but looks fine to me.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 03, 2014, 08:15:28 PM
You're a wild and crazy guy, Max!
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Deziner on December 03, 2014, 09:57:02 PM
Anybody have a part number or a line on one? I'll try one. I'm not much to look at but I still work pretty good. In my world,  form FOLLOWS function.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Conrad on December 04, 2014, 04:37:28 AM
Anybody have a part number or a line on one? I'll try one. I'm not much to look at but I still work pretty good. In my world,  form FOLLOWS function.

Do you have a mail slot?    ;)

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Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: gPink on December 04, 2014, 05:15:33 AM
Anybody have a part number or a line on one? I'll try one. I'm not much to look at but I still work pretty good. In my world,  form FOLLOWS function.

Always....?

(the guy with the sword wouldn't like the picture I was going to post with the question so you've got to use your imagination  :) )
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: VirginiaJim on December 04, 2014, 05:18:56 AM
Anybody have a part number or a line on one? I'll try one. I'm not much to look at but I still work pretty good. In my world,  form FOLLOWS function.

You're going to have to research all the parts, assuming that they're online (I doubt it as it usually takes awhile for a new model year to populate the public parts lists), unless you find a rider that has one and is willing to take it apart to see if it is swappable.  I'm not even sure that any of them have shown up in stock yet.  The dealer locator on their site shows nothing within a 100 miles of my zip code.  I wouldn't buy that screen for a non-2015 bike without doing the research first.

Additionally, I've done a quick search on 2015 parts (nothing).   Even searching 2014 doesn't bring up the C14 parts.  The kawasaki UK GTR page has a bit more but no parts.  Most likely you will need to go to a dealer and see what they have.  Best of luck, but I do think it's a bit early.  I believe that there are aftermarket screens with the mail slot that don't look as ugly as what's on the 2015.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Deziner on December 04, 2014, 06:49:29 AM
Before I posted I looked around and had no luck finding anything. II'll try ro swing by my local dealer but generally they don't stock much of anything. I mostly get "We can order that. It will take 7-10 days to get it."   >:(   Why would I pay full retail AND wait for a week to get a part?  I don't mind paying full price if I can get it now. (Instant gratification, what can I say?)
 
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: maxtog on December 04, 2014, 09:07:17 PM
Before I posted I looked around and had no luck finding anything. II'll try ro swing by my local dealer but generally they don't stock much of anything. I mostly get "We can order that. It will take 7-10 days to get it."   >:(   Why would I pay full retail AND wait for a week to get a part?  I don't mind paying full price if I can get it now. (Instant gratification, what can I say?)

I don't think local dealers carry much of anything in stock, anywhere.  Especially not things specific to one model like windshields, plastic parts, rotors, gears, gaskets, stuff like that.  Some will stock fairly general stuff like brake pads, shims, crush washers, plastic rivets, bolts, bulbs, oil, filters, lube, several tires...  Can't blame them, there are thousands upon thousands of parts... they don't have the space, money, or demand.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Torn on December 08, 2014, 08:06:11 PM
Anyone had any thoughts on buying the new C14 windshield?  Or thoughts on cost.  Im one of the few that actually like the factory windshield and would like to get the new kawi 2015 one especially if it kills the buffeting and vacuum.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: The Pope on December 09, 2014, 03:33:09 AM
Anyone had any thoughts on buying the new C14 windshield?  Or thoughts on cost.  Im one of the few that actually like the factory windshield and would like to get the new kawi 2015 one especially if it kills the buffeting and vacuum.
With the 2010-14 windshield being $260+, I'd suspect the 2015 windshield with all of the extra items for the mail slot to be $300+.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: SimpleSimon on December 17, 2014, 11:33:42 AM
I'm a function over form guy.  If it reduces any buffeting behind the screen, I'll pay the $300.  I don't think it looks that bad actually. 
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: jwolffie on December 21, 2014, 10:13:05 AM
In this review: http://www.ridermagazine.com/top-stories/2015-kawasaki-concours-14-abs-road-test-review.htm/ (http://www.ridermagazine.com/top-stories/2015-kawasaki-concours-14-abs-road-test-review.htm/)
they said the wind screen will fit the older models.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: elp_jc on January 05, 2015, 02:46:56 PM
As a comment, just found out something weird about the new windscreen. Transport company asked me for dimensions of the bike, so went to Kawasaki and this is what the specs say about height (min with screen down, and max, with screen fully up):

2014: 50.8" to 57.7"
2015: 52.9" to 57.7".

So the new screen is over 2" taller VERTICALLY (so probably quite a bit longer than 2", since it's angled) when fully down. That's A LOT. Better to shield rider from wind, but that means cooking in summer (vent is for aerodynamics). What doesn't make sense is being the same height fully up. Unless Kawi reduced the travel on the mechanism, probably an error. Just wanted to point it out. And yes, I'll order the CooperDawg regardless of year, but seems I'll end up with a new '13 (expecting call to close the deal today... or tomorrow). Have a good one.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: maxtog on January 05, 2015, 03:25:21 PM
As a comment, just found out something weird about the new windscreen. Transport company asked me for dimensions of the bike, so went to Kawasaki and this is what the specs say about height (min with screen down, and max, with screen fully up):

2014: 50.8" to 57.7"
2015: 52.9" to 57.7".

So the new screen is over 2" taller VERTICALLY (so probably quite a bit longer than 2", since it's angled) when fully down. That's A LOT. Better to shield rider from wind, but that means cooking in summer (vent is for aerodynamics). What doesn't make sense is being the same height fully up. Unless Kawi reduced the travel on the mechanism, probably an error.

I have a feeling it is either a typo or just wrong.  I can't imagine they would artificially limit the windscreen travel.  I guess we won't know for sure until someone gets a 2015 and measures the thing up and down.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: elp_jc on January 05, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
I have a feeling it is either a typo or just wrong.  I can't imagine they would artificially limit the windscreen travel.
That's my guess too... unless due to the larger screen, Kawi reduced the travel to avoid the mechanism breaking, since it's pretty marginal already, no? Read of several broken mechanisms at speed with larger aftermarket screens. One thing is for sure: new windscreen is definitely larger (and seems wider as well); saw a picture of a 2015 and compared it to a 2014, and the screen looks huge by comparison. We'll find out for sure soon enough.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: just gone on May 30, 2015, 06:10:27 PM
Successfully test fit a newly acquired OEM 2015 vented windshield to my 2010 C14, so YES it does fit! Final answer. :thumbs: :banana  :D

Let us know how it works out.

I doubt I'm the first, but I promised to report back on mine mounted on a '10 C14, so here it is.

This is the first time I've noticed an improvement in a windshield install since I tried the large Aeroflow that is in the "try a windshield for free" large group. It was almost as good as the 2015 OEM screen but I thought it was too fugly and wobbly for me. I usually ride with the windshield fully lowered and with a top X-Screen spoiler tilted forward. I find that the spoiler collects most of the bugs and keeps them off of my visor without causing any buffeting. I only raise my screen in the rain; when I've forgotten my earplugs; or when I get a phone call to help the microphone with background noise. I never have a buffeting problem with any screen when raised except in strong cross winds or when following some trucks (too closely  :-[ ). My windshield problem has always been back pressure in the raised position, it's like having a passenger behind me pushing my head forward when ever I raise the screen. This one does the same when raised until I open the vent and then it is 90-95% reduced. I've tried cutting  various holes and even the Madstad C14 bracket (which flowed a ton of air behind the screen) with the '10 OEM shield, but nothing helped except the Aeroflow and now the 2015 OEM shield. I just tried it on a trip to Wisconsin and it worked great for me. It is difficult to open when riding but it is possible.

The screw thread sizes are the same as the previous years, except that the socket caps all are now the same size, so only one hex wrench is needed to remove the six through mounting screws and the two cover screws.  When the screen first came out I toyed with the idea of purchasing the hardware and just cutting my '10 screen to fit, but that would not have worked as the '15 screen has a significant protruding lip at the top of the vent. The screen is also thicker at the top of the mounting area, as seen in the labeled photo below. Overall the screen is the same thickness as the previous years except in the mounting area. Height and width are the same as the Gen II screens. Using the '15 screen on my '10 C14 seemed to work fine. I have the clamp on X-screen spoiler at the top so mine is even a little heavier than it would normally be. I haven't weighed it yet to compare the weight difference with the '10 OEM screen, but I'll get to that when I take it off to paint it black. I also have a dash shelf, so that may have some affect on how it works, but I wouldn't know if it is a positive or a negative affect (effect?..I always mess that up) The vent is sized large enough to potentially let in a medium bird (a dove sized bird, but maybe not a fat pigeon) so my dash shelf should probably stop it from coming straight through unimpeded.

I purchased mine from a friend that had a black '15, so part of the cover is painted to match his bike. I may eventually get some Colorite spray cans and try my hand at rattle-canning it Candy Neptune Blue. Maybe.... someday.... maybe.  ::)

Too many photos, must be ZG's influence.
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Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: BruceR on May 30, 2015, 08:14:41 PM
I read in one of the moto mags that Kawasaki does not recommend retrofitting the new shield onto the older bikes due to the increased weight.  It stresses the mechanisms or something.  I don't know if they're just being overly cautious, like the weight restrictions on the rear rack, or what.  How much more weight can it really be, though?
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: just gone on May 30, 2015, 11:27:51 PM
I read in one of the moto mags that Kawasaki does not recommend retrofitting the new shield onto the older bikes due to the increased weight.  It stresses the mechanisms or something.  I don't know if they're just being overly cautious, like the weight restrictions on the rear rack, or what.  How much more weight can it really be, though?

I'll get back to you on that. Seems like the aerodynamic load would put more stress on the mechanism than even a double weight windshield could.

Most likely won't be covered by extended warranty if I do break the mechanism, but I think I'd just fix it myself with a more robust design anyway so...time will tell.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: VirginiaJim on May 31, 2015, 05:51:09 AM
Another little hidden update....beefed up the windscreen mechanism?  I wonder if that's an easy retrofit?  Used, of course.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Scaffolder on May 31, 2015, 04:11:16 PM
Thanks for the info on the 2015 screen. Very good to know. Did you or who you bought it from have to buy extra parts. Like the black pieces that help mount the screen down. Id he give you the bigger plastic pieces?
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: B.D.F. on May 31, 2015, 04:19:14 PM
Just my opinion but I do not believe the weight of the windshield would really be the cause of an overload of the windshield supports, I think the larger windshield, traveling through roiled air, at high vehicle speed, such as when passing large trucks on the highway, would be the real source of excess stress. A few folks have had the windshield support(s) fail over the years but as I remember, they were always using large windshields. That said, there seem to be a lot of C-14's running large if not outright huge windshields without much in the way of problems.

Brian

I read in one of the moto mags that Kawasaki does not recommend retrofitting the new shield onto the older bikes due to the increased weight.  It stresses the mechanisms or something.  I don't know if they're just being overly cautious, like the weight restrictions on the rear rack, or what.  How much more weight can it really be, though?
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: just gone on June 01, 2015, 12:12:10 AM
Thanks for the info on the 2015 screen. Very good to know. Did you or who you bought it from have to buy extra parts. Like the black pieces that help mount the screen down. Id he give you the bigger plastic pieces?

He gave me all the pieces from his 2015, but he had to get pre-'15 pieces to mount his replacement tall Cee Bailey screen on his '15 model. I don't remember if he purchased them, or just happened to save them from his previous (wrecked) C14.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: BruceR on June 02, 2015, 09:13:10 AM
Just my opinion but I do not believe the weight of the windshield would really be the cause of an overload of the windshield supports, I think the larger windshield, traveling through roiled air, at high vehicle speed, such as when passing large trucks on the highway, would be the real source of excess stress. A few folks have had the windshield support(s) fail over the years but as I remember, they were always using large windshields. That said, there seem to be a lot of C-14's running large if not outright huge windshields without much in the way of problems.

Brian
Well, apparently Kawasaki thinks you shouldn't use the screen.  The quote in the motomag was from KHI.  Now, I also think it's due to the forces placed one the mounts from the larger screens, but I'm running a Calsci large with no (yet) apparent ill effects.  So YMMV.  I was just relaying info, not saying don't use it.  I'd be curious to know if the new mechanism has different mounts.  If so, would they be a worthwhile cost to add to the pre-2015 models for us guys pushing a barn door windshield down the road?
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: maxtog on June 02, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
If so, would they be a worthwhile cost to add to the pre-2015 models for us guys pushing a barn door windshield down the road?

Since the price is so extreme, it might be interesting to see if one of the aftermarket shops start copying the design...
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: just gone on June 02, 2015, 11:51:11 PM
Well, apparently Kawasaki thinks you shouldn't use the screen.  The quote in the motomag was from KHI.  Now, I also think it's due to the forces placed one the mounts from the larger screens, but I'm running a Calsci large with no (yet) apparent ill effects.  So YMMV.  I was just relaying info, not saying don't use it.  I'd be curious to know if the new mechanism has different mounts.  If so, would they be a worthwhile cost to add to the pre-2015 models for us guys pushing a barn door windshield down the road?

Couldn't say for sure but the assembly has a different part number for 2015.

Not likely, the assembly is over $700.00. Might be better to just modify the one you have to strengthen it, or find a wrecked '15 model and swap out the assembly (if it's undamaged) of find the parts that may be upgraded and install them in your assembly.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Turbodoc on July 25, 2015, 06:31:26 PM
There are more affordable and effective windscreens out there for the C14.  I replaced the cheap screen on my 2012 C14 after 500 miles with a VStream.  I am not fond of its looks, don't dislike it, but different.  1 " or so taller and does funnel wind away from hands and helmet. Stock bars.  No buffeting of helmet at speeds up to 120 mph when up (extended).  The screen top edges do flex however at speeds of 80mph and above.  But no effect on the rider.  I am 6'2" tall and when 3/4 the way up, silence behind the shield like BMWs RTs in the 80's.  Has special coating and cannot clean with Plexis like agents--water only.  No distortion at all.  Low enough for summer riding.  I would recommend it for any long distance tourers for sure.  So far after 7000 miles, no sand pits and I would purchase again.  Installs 15 minutes.  So far, even though bigger than stock, no strain on mechanism detected and lowers and raises efficiently at speed.   I have 55 years of motorcycling experience and >250K miles logged.  Good purchase.    Turbodoc
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: borntoride63 on July 29, 2015, 03:51:19 PM
hi to all, I have the 2015 windscreen and brackets if anyone is interested. I bought a cee baileys euro short screen (dark tint) I had to buy 2014 pieces to mount.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: skidder008 on January 15, 2016, 11:10:11 PM
Well, I just mounted the vent to a Cee Bailey's Extra Tall Ultra Tour windshield.  Will have to wait till the snow is gone before I can let you know what the scoop is.  Had to do a little work to build out a lip for the top of the vent, but it turned out great. 

I've read a few comments about the recommendation from Kawi.  Frankly, I've been driving down the road and put 50K kms on this bike with (as someone else said earlier) a barn door on the front of it.  I can't see how reducing the vacuum behind the windshield would increase the stress.  I would have thought it would decrease it...but hey, I'm not an aeronautical engineer so we'll just have to see how it all works out.

Anyway, here's some pics for you.  It took about 2 hours to install.  A few recommendations - measure 10 times, cut small the first time, and expand out from there.  As I said earlier, it turned out as good as I could have hoped for.

Cheers...

Skidder

   
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: maxtog on January 16, 2016, 05:54:09 AM
Well, I just mounted the vent to a Cee Bailey's Extra Tall Ultra Tour windshield.

I am impressed.  That probably took a long time.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: gPink on January 16, 2016, 06:12:49 AM
Welcome to the forum, Skidder. Looks like a clean install. Would it be possible for you to post a parts list for anyone wanting to do the mod?

By the way, what are those two pods with what looks like three leds on top of the dash in the third picture?
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: just gone on January 16, 2016, 09:25:51 AM
Nice job Skidder! Can you tell us more about how you made the top lip?
Was there heating and bending involved?



By the way, what are those two pods with what looks like three leds on top of the dash in the third picture?

They appear to be TPX visual alerts (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/tpx-visual-alert?gclid=CjwKEAiA8ee0BRD1l7vV6JHe0zISJADxYItmec_P4kHxCCenUqgykfvuI8aLCtIb0kIh0UAAIW94IxoCG-Hw_wcB).
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: gPink on January 16, 2016, 09:28:19 AM
Thanks Marty.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: mikeb2411 on January 21, 2016, 01:55:03 PM
I don't think local dealers carry much of anything in stock, anywhere.  Especially not things specific to one model like windshields, plastic parts, rotors, gears, gaskets, stuff like that.  Some will stock fairly general stuff like brake pads, shims, crush washers, plastic rivets, bolts, bulbs, oil, filters, lube, several tires...  Can't blame them, there are thousands upon thousands of parts... they don't have the space, money, or demand.

nuh-uh...they don't stock bolts! I tried to get some and had to order them and that was after checking with 2 local dealers ::)!
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Rhino on January 21, 2016, 02:37:47 PM
Wow skidder! That looks fantastic! I've been riding behind a CB Ultra Tour domed for about 60,000 miles now. I've got no complaints but always open to improvement. Please let us know how it works out when you get a chance to try it. Oh, and WELCOME!
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: maxtog on January 21, 2016, 03:23:52 PM
nuh-uh...they don't stock bolts!

That's why I said SOME would, not many or most.  And it will depend on what kind, too.  I suppose I should be shocked if any did!
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: mikeb2411 on January 21, 2016, 03:26:58 PM
That's why I said SOME would, not many or most.  And it will depend on what kind, too.  I suppose I should be shocked if any did!

They're all programmed to say the same thing, "I can order it and it'll be here in few days"!
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: skidder008 on January 22, 2016, 11:14:10 PM
Hey folks.  Thanks for the compliments.  Muchly appreciated.
A few answers:
1. Took about 2 hours from start to finish.  That included laying out all the parts, measuring, measuring, measuring and measuring.  I used a fine, metal scroll blade on a jigsaw.  Masked the windshield, then drew my stencil using the parts, eye-balling the lines, and using the cutout diagram from the Kawasaki Parts Nation parts page to get the thumb cutouts for opening the vent.  I started cutting inside the whole I traced out, then expanded slowly and carefully.  Actually easier than I anticipated. 
2. Yes, those are TPX visual laser and radar (really, just a big ticket) detector(s). 
3. The lip - Struggled with this a bit.  Wanted to stay away from gluing or heating and bending.  The Cee Bailey is a pretty think windshield so what I ended up doing was building out a lip using layer upon layer of two-sided, black, 3M tape.  The rubber mount that I bought from the parts page has adhesive on it so it's structurally sound.  And, that 3M tape sticks like concrete most of the time.  So, we'll just have to wait and see.  If the lip doesn't pan out, I'll have to buy/cut a piece of clear plastic and epoxy it on.  Stay tuned.
4. Parts - I ordered the parts from Kawasaki Parts Nation.  Wasn't cheap by any means, but they managed to ship me everything except one small washer.  Overall, a pretty good experience. 

Parts list is below.  Best of luck to those who wish to do the install.  Fire me a message if you have any questions. 


Product                                                                           Unit Price   Qty   Total
   
"COVER,M.S.BLACK                 Item #14093-0140-660"   $114.38   1   $114.38
"COVER                                  Item #14093-0141"           $9.44   1   $9.44
"COVER                                  Item #14093-0142"           $9.44   1   $9.44
"COVER,WINDSHIELD              Item #14093-0271"           $29.58   1   $29.58
"COVER-ASSY                          Item #16146-0773"           $112.08   1   $112.08
"PAD,WINDSHIELD                   Item #39156-1936"           $4.22   1   $4.22
"WASHER-PLAIN,5MM               Item #411AB0500"           $1.67   4   $6.68
"WASHER,NYLON,5.3X11.5X1.5 Item #92022-1521"           $2.53   3   $7.59
"COLLAR,5.6X7.6X7                  Item #92152-1929"           $6.44   2   $12.88
"BOLT,SOCKET,6X14                  Item #92154-0856"             $1.67   2   $3.34
"BOLT,SOCKET,5X12                  Item #92154-0917"            $2.74   2   $5.48
"BOLT,SOCKET,5X16                  Item #92154-1701"            $1.67   4   $6.68
"DAMPER,WINDSHIELD,LWR      Item #92161-0398"           $3.99   2   $7.98
"DAMPER,12.5X21X3                 Item #92161-1774"           $1.67   6   $10.02
"SCREW,TAPPING,5X10              Item #92172-0335"           $1.67   2   $3.34

Subtotal:   $343.13
Salestax:   $0.00
Shipping:   $44.96
Order Total:   $388.09
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: maxtog on January 22, 2016, 11:50:49 PM
Subtotal:   $343.13

Ouch.  $343 for a mail slot!  But just as ouch is part 55036-009, which is the entire, assembled windshield for the oh-so-reasonable price of $722.  I suppose it is nice that one can also buy just the plexigas/base screen when it gets all scratched, and move the expensive mail slot vent stuff to it... that is "only"  $261.65.

http://www.kawasakipartsnation.com/oemparts/a/kaw/54d91f8b87a8651e14b3d550/windshield (http://www.kawasakipartsnation.com/oemparts/a/kaw/54d91f8b87a8651e14b3d550/windshield)

At least they are trying to be "fair", since the non-mail slot windscreen is also $261.65

http://www.kawasakipartsnation.com/oemparts/a/kaw/50a99d8df87002235ccd807c/windshield (http://www.kawasakipartsnation.com/oemparts/a/kaw/50a99d8df87002235ccd807c/windshield)
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: gPink on January 23, 2016, 05:22:18 AM
Skidder, thanks a lot for the parts list.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: skidder008 on July 16, 2016, 02:59:23 AM
Hello there.  Half way through the season and a about 4000K on the bike with the windshield vent.  Significantly dropped the helmet buffeting.  However, also significantly increased the water flow to the crotch when open in the hard rain.   :-[

Worth it in my opinion.  Just be sure to close it up when you hit the 7 hr mark in the rain. 

Good luck if anyone decides to move forward and feel free to reach out if you have questions.

Cheers...

Skidder
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Zacharykro6 on July 26, 2016, 02:33:35 PM
Hi everyone, just wanted to comment that I did the opposite of the subject - but my findings may help some people.

I have a 2015 bike and I have installed an earlier style screen. I wasn't trying to get rid of the vent, I just wanted a shorter screen with no flip up due to my interpretation of some great information I read on Calsci's website. I am running the early style screen with my bolts that came off the 2015 screen, all I had to add was 1 washer to each bolt. It would look cleaner if I had the bolt covers or if I painted the center bolt black.

The improvement in buffeting by using the early screen is dramatic according to my passenger. (I might hesitate to add a 2015 style screen if I have a passenger frequently.) She says that with the 2015 screen it is hard to hold her helmet straight, it gets thrown around by wind. In the low positions I notice no ill effects of the older style windscreen, but when it is more than 1/3 of the way up at highway speed I do feel pulled toward the steering head by back pressure.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Diablo6v on July 27, 2016, 10:13:20 AM
I bought the 2015 screen from a Cogger. I love it. It takes some time learning how the vent works and the best height. Reduces almost all of my helmet buffeting and back pressure. I paid $350 for it used in almost new condition. I didn't have any issues in the rain but it was only partially open. The vent has two settings.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Mms on January 13, 2017, 08:03:00 PM
Hello Skidder,

Thanks for posting the parts list. I am going to go ahead and purchase the windshield with the vent precut from CalSci. Should be no problem according to their website. (see below)

The shields for the 2015+ are identical to the 2008-2014 shields except instead of our vent we use the Kawasaki vent. Riders of 2008+ Concours may also use these 2015+ shields if they buy the vent mechanism from Kawasaki.
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So with your parts list it should be straight forward. Looks like the windshield with shipping is $225 and the parts you listed are  $388.09. Thanks again for posting the parts list.
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: maxtog on January 13, 2017, 09:25:08 PM
So with your parts list it should be straight forward. Looks like the windshield with shipping is $225 and the parts you listed are  $388.09. Thanks again for posting the parts list.

$613.09 for a windscreen... ouch!  I am "blown away"  (pun intended) ((hardy har har))
Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to try the new windscreen on an older model 14?
Post by: Conrad on January 14, 2017, 05:18:00 AM
$613.09 for a windscreen... ouch!  I am "blown away"  (pun intended) ((hardy har har))

Don't quit your day job Max.     ;)