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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Stephen.G.Fiddes on November 11, 2014, 08:34:55 AM
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Hey guys, my wife and I are about to finalize the purchase of our "new" (to us) house. I'm going to great extent to prep and properly seal the garage floor before we actually move in. I have noticed that the center-stand has put some significant scratches in the garage floor where we currently live, and want to avoid that at the new place.
For the side-stand I put a small 1 foot square piece of 3/4" plywood down, but I can't do that with the center stand as it would make it way too hard for me to roll it back.
What do you guys do?
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I use the center stand and I don't care about the concrete floor. They do make some sort of roller system that's been discussed previously. Someone should chime in about that.
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I leave my floor raw concrete complete with oil stains. That way I can use it however I want and never worry about such stuff. But thats just me. What about using a rubberized tool dip?
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Like this: http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Plasti_Dip (http://www.plastidip.com/home_solutions/Plasti_Dip)
Don't know how it would hold up though.
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I know most guys don't care, but I'm weird like that. I like a clean organized shop, with proper care taken to avoid damage...
Plastidip would come off the second I used it on a non-smooth surface, and after about 5 uses on the garage.
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I use the center stand and I don't care about the concrete floor. They do make some sort of roller system that's been discussed previously. Someone should chime in about that.
As for the roller system, I do plan on doing something like that, haven't decided what yet tho, and in the mean time don't want to do too much damage.
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http://www.garageflooringllc.com/blt-motorcycle-mat/?gclid=CMzugaP48sECFetj7AodQWQAAA (http://www.garageflooringllc.com/blt-motorcycle-mat/?gclid=CMzugaP48sECFetj7AodQWQAAA)
Motorcycle mat
http://youtu.be/s-45lO1RWys (http://youtu.be/s-45lO1RWys)
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What about a small section of area rug or carpet remnants? Protects the floor and might just catch any leaks you possibly have. Shouldn't take any extra effort to lift the bike onto the centerstand, and it would be small enough to put away when you want the clean look. I've never measured the distance of the centerstand feet but it seems like a 4" x 8" piece would work for both?
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I have mat down on the floor where the street bike parks, former HD years so I have to still suffer with the Harley colors. the rest of the floor has foam tiles around the lift and in front of the lift is where my quad parks so that is bare...or mud covered depending on the day.
The mat Virginiajim is similar to what I have, but it was purchased as tiles.
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The Harbor Freight roll around floor rail stand has polymer wheels, but does not allow using the centerstand. It is robust, and very afordable.
Other than that I,m sure a couple vinyl floor tiles would suffice.
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I have mat down on the floor where the street bike parks, former HD years so I have to still suffer with the Harley colors. the rest of the floor has foam tiles around the lift and in front of the lift is where my quad parks so that is bare...or mud covered depending on the day.
The mat Virginiajim is similar to what I have, but it was purchased as tiles.
Yeah, a rubber mat seems like a good option... May have to see if I can find a good deal on one around here. Hadn't thought of that.
The Harbor Freight roll around floor rail stand has polymer wheels, but does not allow using the centerstand. It is robust, and very afordable.
Other than that I,m sure a couple vinyl floor tiles would suffice.
I've thought about that too but haven't decided... I know I'll be putting a lift of some sort in eventually as well, so there doesn't seem much point to a rolly thing if I have a lift.
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I used Rust-Oleum 2 part epoxy on
our my garage floor and it has held up extremely well now for almost 6 yrs. When I park my bike(s), I puck kickstand puck under the side-stand, and when the time comes to use the center-stand, I put a 2'x2'x1/8'' masonite board under the center-stand. I am kinda of a fanatic about keeping things looking nice.
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I agree that 3/4" plywood would be a real struggle to get the bike up on to. But how about some thinner product? 1/4" might work OK or even a small piece of sheet steel. Heck you'd have to replace it now and then but I'll bet a piece of cardboard would do the job.
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What's the name of that board that's thin and hard surfaced? I've got some that I've cut up and put on the dining room table for my experiments and such. Hardboard?
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What's the name of that board that's thin and hard surfaced? I've got some that I've cut up and put on the dining room table for my experiments and such. Hardboard?
Masonite!! See my post ^^^
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:doh: This is what happens when you get old...I've forgot more than I'll ever know.
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I used Rust-Oleum 2 part epoxy on our my garage floor and it has held up extremely well now for almost 6 yrs. When I park my bike(s), I puck kickstand puck under the side-stand, and when the time comes to use the center-stand, I put a 2'x2'x1/8'' masonite board under the center-stand. I am kinda of a fanatic about keeping things looking nice.
Many years ago I power washed the garage concrete, scrubbed with, then power washed it again (with the high-power rotating blaster tip), then chemically etched it with the acid stuff in the kit, then used two-part epoxy paint as instructed. It still scratched. And where the car tires sit, the paint pulled up :( Now it looks worse than if I had never painted it. :(
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Steve
4 ×8 sheet of 1/2 inch plywood works well for me, large enough to park on and keeps floor damage free.
SW Roadrunner
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You guys probably wash your bikes too!! It's a floor. Just don't look down.
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Works for me..
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Many years ago I power washed the garage concrete, scrubbed with, then power washed it again (with the high-power rotating blaster tip), then chemically etched it with the acid stuff in the kit, then used two-part epoxy paint as instructed. It still scratched. And where the car tires sit, the paint pulled up :( Now it looks worse than if I had never painted it. :(
Early this year we leased and moved into what would be called by most a "high end" house and while I didn't look real close the 3 car garage floor had a near perfect painted finish. On the night we moved in I got the trailer parked inside due to rain and then parked the SUV mind you by the time I got either one parked the tires could not have held any heat. The next morning both the trailer and SUV tires lifted some paint.... Dang I thought! Every piece of wheeled equipment I own has lifted up some paint since then; bike, riding mower, and golf cart too. I think the old man had someone paint it with porch and floor (just a guess) just so it would look as nice as the rest of the house; only garage I'd seen with finished sheetrock walls, textured sheetrock ceiling and even has baseboard molding where it meets the block wall.....
As for keeping the bike from scratching the floor really? Any simple thin durable item should do for the side stand a blank electrical cover plate or flattened beer can comes to mind. And for the center stand a piece of thin 1/8" alum plate 12" x 12" backed with some equally thin 1/8" red rubber sheeting to prevent slippage when getting the bike up onto should do the trick quite nicely.
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I have finished walls and ceiling, painted and I even have ceiling fans and heat....gotta keep the babies comfortable when they are resting.
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I want your garage. Mine is bare walls/studs (not on the house side). Heat in the summer and cooling in the winter. If it gets too cold I have a propane heater and one of those big portable lights on a stand that throws out some heat as well. I don't think I'm allowed in my subdivision to have AC window units unfortunately. One of my projects is to get insulation in the walls and drywall up.
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when we first built our house it wasn't finished, that winter we went on vacation and came back to find everything frozen in there. Also we have a room above the garage that is attached into the house that room would be very cold all the time.
So it was in the end better to finish the garage and heat it.....and my wife believed me...lol
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I want your garage. Mine is bare walls/studs (not on the house side). Heat in the summer and cooling in the winter. If it gets too cold I have a propane heater and one of those big portable lights on a stand that throws out some heat as well. I don't think I'm allowed in my subdivision to have AC window units unfortunately. One of my projects is to get insulation in the walls and drywall up.
What about an in-wall unit? Even a window unit can look rather neat if installed through the wall. Or if you ever get that serious a wall hung split unit.
My last garage was insulated and paneled to which I added heat for winter time past time.... Starting new all over again now but don't think I'll heat this new garage but if I get it fixed up and organized one day I'll surely put up ceiling fans and an old extra TV hung on the wall. It's so quite where we live I need a little music just to keep my ears from ringing when I'm in the garage.
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Here is a couple pics of my garage, and my "kids". The floor is the Rust Oleum 2 part epoxy. Knock on wood, but I have never had a problem with parking hot tires on the floor. I have done this hundreds of times in 6 yrs. I am very impressed with this coating and would definitely do it again if the need arose.
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Here is a couple pics of my garage, and my "kids". The floor is the Rust Oleum 2 part epoxy. Knock on wood, but I have never had a problem with parking hot tires on the floor. I have done this hundreds of times in 6 yrs. I am very impressed with this coating and would definitely do it again if the need arose.
Nice!
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Yeah, I like that tool box and the welder...
And there's Mr. Max, not to be confused with our Max. :thumbs:
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If you have a Menards near you they sell a roll of rubber matting that is made for parking your vehicles on that can withstand oil, gas, diesel or whatever. I suppose the other home supply stores probably have it too. It comes in a roll that is 5' x 10'. I bought two of them to make a 10' x 10' area for my bikes. I'll probably get another one. I used double sided tape to hold them in place.
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How about using a thin plastic cutting board?
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sailorchic.....after seeing the picture of your garage I feel like I should go home and clean mine out! Maybe my wife is right, there is too much crap in mine, you can barely walk through it.
BTW...nice Max!...my father had one, bought it brand new and held onto it for many years. unfortunately last year he started thinning the heard and sold that and the xr650r along with his sporty 1200.
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For the side-stand I put a small 1 foot square piece of 3/4" plywood down, but I can't do that with the center stand as it would make it way too hard for me to roll it back.
What do you guys do?
Get three 2' X 2' pieces of 3/4" thick plywood. Line them up into a 2' X 4' arrangement with the 3rd one on top of the end facing out of the garage, so that
as you drive in the front wheel goes over the 1.5 inch thickness then drops down to the 3/4 inch thickness. Continue forward until the rear wheel is on the
1.5 inch thickness then put down the kick stand (yeah, it will tilt more than usual) then dismount and put it on the center stand on top of the 3/4 inch piece
of plywood. Then remove the two pieces from under the rear wheel.
They do make some sort of roller system that's been discussed previously. Someone should chime in about that.
As for the roller system, I do plan on doing something like that, haven't decided what yet tho, and in the mean time don't want to do too much damage.
As for the roller arrangement, I use the Park 'N' Move (http://www.legalspeeding.com/Park-n-Move.htm#.VGOmtGc86Zk) under the center stand after I first ride the rear wheel up over the 1.5 inch thickness of plywood. (I only use the two pieces of plywood.)
There is also the Harbor Freight roller (http://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-motorcycle-dolly-95896.html) option. I have no experience with it, but it is less than half the cost of the Park 'N' Move.
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I used two pieces of self stick kitchen floor tile that was left from the remodel. After a few years they were starting to get chewed up, but they came up with a thick putty knife and two more were less than $3.
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How about a rubber welcome mat? Not going to slip and may make the bike feel more at home, when parked in the garage...tp
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Anything hard or rubbery (easy boys!) probably still has a chance of removing paint.
How about a carpet remnant upside down, maybe 6'x2' ... and then with a piece of 1/2" plywood laying on that? Combined they would distribute the load significantly, and keep any hard parts of the plywood from touching the painted floor.
Could be any ol' ugly carpet (aka cheap) too ... since it'd be upside down.
Could even glue the carpet to the plywood before using it, so they stay aligned with each other.
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How about a rubber welcome mat? Not going to slip and may make the bike feel more at home, when parked in the garage...tp
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I guess this has turned into how
cheap frugal one can get with protecting the floor.... A vinyl remnant perhaps?
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And where the car tires sit, the paint pulled up :( Now it looks worse than if I had never painted it. :(
Yup...my garage floor is the same. I paint my garage floor every couple years with an alkid enamel in Zodiac Grey...lol.
The kickstands peel it off, and when I park a bike inside with hot tires, the paint sticks in the exact contact patch of the tires. Looks kind of funky until I wear it off the tires again (which doesn't take long of course;).
Rem
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I guess this has turned into how cheap frugal one can get with protecting the floor.... A vinyl remnant perhaps?
Speaking of cheap frugal, if you really want a durable rubber mat for next to nothing (or no money) just drop by a gravel pit or rock quarry, etc and ask for a few feet of conveyor belt. It's usually 3-4 feet wide, and they'll have old rolls of it laying around that you can cut pieces off. It's about the toughest stuff you can get your hands on, and they buy it in rolls that are bigger than a minivan, so they often have 'extra' laying around somewhere;)
Rem
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I think that wins the prize!
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I think that wins the prize!
It really is good stuff, and you can usually get it for free. My old man has two lengths of it in his garage where he parks his tractor. Not that the tractor tires will hurt anything, but when he has the ring chains on the back tires they will;).
Hockey rinks often use old rubber conveyor belting in the hallways and dressing rooms so the kids don't have to walk on the concrete with their skates on;). Maybe it's a frugal Canadian thing?;)...lol.
Rem
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sailorchic.....after seeing the picture of your garage I feel like I should go home and clean mine out! Maybe my wife is right, there is too much crap in mine, you can barely walk through it.
That is a very nice garage I must say. Well laid out with all kinds of convenience items within a step or two. Very well done.
I'd take that garage over many others that are much bigger.
(Mine is close to the same size....it forces you to manage your space wisely;).
Rem
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I try to be tolerant of others but that is just too much- you have gone over the proverbial line with those photos! I will ask Jim to remove those photos as soon as possible and I have to say that I think you are a horrible representative of the general Concours owner community.
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Your garage is making the rest of us look bad....that garage looks nicer than my living room..... :thumbs: :hail:
Brian (yep, I are a slob and you are the 'anti- slob' apparently)
Here is a couple pics of my garage, and my "kids". The floor is the Rust Oleum 2 part epoxy. Knock on wood, but I have never had a problem with parking hot tires on the floor. I have done this hundreds of times in 6 yrs. I am very impressed with this coating and would definitely do it again if the need arose.
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I used two pieces of self stick kitchen floor tile that was left from the remodel. After a few years they were starting to get chewed up, but they came up with a thick putty knife and two more were less than $3.
That is what I was going to suggest. That or square electrical junction box covers glued to an old mouse pad.
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Small world: I have been exposed (Easy Boys!) to that stuff before it is 'born'. Unvulcanized rubber is interleaved (called a 'ply up' in the industry) with layers of material such as Kevlar and Aramid fiber mats, squeezed together and cured to make an incredibly strong, durable conveyor belt for earth moving and mining use. It is the same stuff that makes tires (made by the same company that makes tire carcass material too) which is where the 'ply rating' comes from. Some belts are a mile long or more. As the material strip is made, the final roll size of product gets rather large (12') diameter and weighs 50,000 lbs. not including the carriage it is being held on.... which weighs another 50,000 lbs. itself. So a full on, finished product package weighs 50 ton and get this: it moves across the production floor to be off- loaded by an overhead crane some distance from the ply-up portion of the production line. All automated too- no human intervention used during the off- loading cycle, and it was a major concern to move something like that in a factory in an area where humans could not be excluded from. Sorta' like a freight train moving through a rail yard on 'automatic'.
Brian
Speaking of cheap frugal, if you really want a durable rubber mat for next to nothing (or no money) just drop by a gravel pit or rock quarry, etc and ask for a few feet of conveyor belt. It's usually 3-4 feet wide, and they'll have old rolls of it laying around that you can cut pieces off. It's about the toughest stuff you can get your hands on, and they buy it in rolls that are bigger than a minivan, so they often have 'extra' laying around somewhere;)
Rem
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I guess this has turned into how cheap frugal one can get with protecting the floor.... A vinyl remnant perhaps?
I use air. Do I win?
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Speaking of cheap frugal, if you really want a durable rubber mat for next to nothing (or no money) just drop by a gravel pit or rock quarry, etc and ask for a few feet of conveyor belt. It's usually 3-4 feet wide, and they'll have old rolls of it laying around that you can cut pieces off. It's about the toughest stuff you can get your hands on, and they buy it in rolls that are bigger than a minivan, so they often have 'extra' laying around somewhere;)
You mean like the 1/2" x 60" x 750-Foot Belt I'll be exchanging off of the barge this winter?
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Business opportunity, T! :rotflmao:
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You mean like the 1/2" x 60" x 750-Foot Belt I'll be exchanging off of the barge this winter?
Haha...yes, that's exactly what I mean...lol. What do you do with the old belting? I don't need any personally...I'm just curious;).
Rem 8)
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Haha...yes, that's exactly what I mean...lol. What do you do with the old belting? I don't need any personally...I'm just curious;).
Rem 8)
Well I don't get to keep it all for myself that's for sure..... But usually it ends up in garages, shops, barns, shooting ranges etc closest to the office personnel of the company I work for..... Once they've had their fill and it gets in their way long enough its off to the scrapper it goes....
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Speaking of cheap frugal, if you really want a durable rubber mat for next to nothing (or no money) just drop by a gravel pit or rock quarry, etc and ask for a few feet of conveyor belt. It's usually 3-4 feet wide, and they'll have old rolls of it laying around that you can cut pieces off. It's about the toughest stuff you can get your hands on, and they buy it in rolls that are bigger than a minivan, so they often have 'extra' laying around somewhere;)
Rem
BINGO! That is going to be the answer!
Seriously, this thread took off in a major way and I really appreciate everyone's answers... TONS of good ideas in this forum. I hadn't thought about conveyer belt, and now that it's mentioned, I'll probably see if I can pick up more than just one piece to use for other things in the garage as well.
I am going to be cleaning, acid etching, and using a penetrating sealer. I ordered this stuff which is supposed to be the best stuff in the market right now. Won't have peeling issues, and it's supposed to do a FANTASTIC job of keeping the garage floor looking clean, and not stained etc.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E55B8GQ/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00E55B8GQ&linkCode=as2&tag=allgaragefloors-20&linkId=NKI7SXEFRU6O7LVV (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E55B8GQ/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00E55B8GQ&linkCode=as2&tag=allgaragefloors-20&linkId=NKI7SXEFRU6O7LVV)
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Hey Guys, Thanks for the kind words about my garage. I have spent a lot of time getting it that way, but it was well worth the effort. I grew up with a father that was a complete slob, and I think that has forced me in the neat freak direction. Plus those awesome bikes deserve a nice home to live in.
Brian, speaking of living room, heres a pic of my Max in my condo right after I first bought him. Certainly couldnt consider leaving him outside. Gotta take care of my boys!
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If you park it in the same location every time, pick up a couple pieces of stick on vinyl flooring. Home depot has them for like $.90 a piece and they are super durable.
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If you park it in the same location every time, pick up a couple pieces of stick on vinyl flooring. Home depot has them for like $.90 a piece and they are super durable.
I agree on their durability. I use them for the top on my workbench. When they get bad, I simply peel the bad ones up and replace.
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Hey Guys, Thanks for the kind words about my garage. I have spent a lot of time getting it that way, but it was well worth the effort. I grew up with a father that was a complete slob, and I think that has forced me in the neat freak direction. Plus those awesome bikes deserve a nice home to live in.
Brian, speaking of living room, heres a pic of my Max in my condo right after I first bought him. Certainly couldnt consider leaving him outside. Gotta take care of my boys!
Single, right? :)
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Single, right? :)
Unfortunately :(
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For my 20 foot V-nose that acts as my garage while I'm on the road, I found a 12"x12" piece of steel that is about 1/8" thick. It works. I used to have a motorcycle lift for my HD Street Glide but I got rid of it when I said I swore of motorcycles :) What was I thinking?
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I have used Rustolium in my 30x36 shop. It's junk. Doesn't hold up and I've had the same peeling problems as previously mentioned. Granitex stays down and you cannot scratch it. Oil leaks do not stain. Best floor covering by far. Made by same folks as Vortex bedliners. Google it for a dealer. It's well worth the money.
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I going to go out on limb here and defend the Rust Oleum 2 part epoxy. My guesstimate is that the vast majority of people applying it are men. Therefore, the application directions weren't read. Resulting in a product that produced lower expectations. Just saying! :)
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If that were not so dam true I'd ban this girl....... ;)
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I going to go out on limb here and defend the Rust Oleum 2 part epoxy. My guesstimate is that the vast majority of people applying it are men. Therefore, the application directions weren't read. Resulting in a product that produced lower expectations. Just saying! :)
I am not sure if the kit I used was Rust Oleum or not. But I am a man, and I did read and follow the instructions carefully. But it just didn't work all that well... whatever it was.
But the stereotype you portray might not be all that uncommon :)
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My wife told me that I was a guy so I'm sticking with that. I read and followed the instructions precisely. I contacted the factory after the Rustolium started coming up. They told me that I needed two coats on the floor. So my wallet is thinner, the epoxy finish on the floor is thicker, and the crap is still coming up.
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How about moisture content in the concrete? Doesn't that need to be measured, and be within a certain range? ... or maybe a 'no greater than' type of number?
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Hey Guys, Thanks for the kind words about my garage. I have spent a lot of time getting it that way, but it was well worth the effort. I grew up with a father that was a complete slob, and I think that has forced me in the neat freak direction. Plus those awesome bikes deserve a nice home to live in.
Brian, speaking of living room, heres a pic of my Max in my condo right after I first bought him. Certainly couldnt consider leaving him outside. Gotta take care of my boys!
Back in 73, kept my Maico 250 MX'er in my appt living room, but couldn't find the pic of it, that I know I have somewhere. My new wife, at the time, didn't mind. Should have kept her. . . Live and learn, I guess. . . tp
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How about moisture content in the concrete? Doesn't that need to be measured, and be within a certain range? ... or maybe a 'no greater than' type of number?
I am guessing there are probably a whole lot of factors that can contribute to it not working well (or working fine). How old the concrete is, the type of concrete, the humidity, how it was cleaned, what chemicals were used, how long the etching was left on, moisture content of the slab, application temperature, the age of the kit, the formulation the factory used, what previous contaminates might have soaked into the surface before it was cleaned, etc, etc.
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I am guessing there are probably a whole lot of factors that can contribute to it not working well (or working fine). How old the concrete is, the type of concrete, the humidity, how it was cleaned, what chemicals were used, how long the etching was left on, moisture content of the slab, application temperature, the age of the kit, the formulation the factory used, what previous contaminates might have soaked into the surface before it was cleaned, etc, etc.
I do get that. In my den, I have hard wood laminate flooring over a concrete slab. Placed a rubber based rug over it for a chair to roll around. After a while, the moisture from under the foundation seeped upwards through the concrete and destroyed the hard wood flooring, covered by the rubber base. Probably a thousand dollars worth of damage. Concrete, as an unsealed base is a b!tch, for sure.
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I do get that. In my den, I have hard wood laminate flooring over a concrete slab. Placed a rubber based rug over it for a chair to roll around. After a while, the moisture from under the foundation seeped upwards through the concrete and destroyed the hard wood flooring, covered by the rubber base. Probably a thousand dollars worth of damage. Concrete, as an unsealed base is a b!tch, for sure.
Not to side track the thread any more than it already has been.... But I've got to ask was the flooring laminate or was it hardwood ? Generally it can't be both. While hardwood can be bonded to a substrate that's usually called engineered flooring and laminate generally has a photo finish over compressed fiber and requires a plastic moisture barrier. I used Wilsonart laminate flooring over an unfinished basement floor with both rubber backed rugs and plastic roller chair mat without issue for years. I don't speak for hardwoods as I've never installed them.
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Are you guys still talking about this? Really? :o :o
Must be cold out. ;D
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The flooring is made by Anderson. Constructed of layers of hard wood, similar to plywood construction. Nothing man made involved. (Not a Pergo style product) The installer didn't seal the concrete before trowling the cement and laying the flooring. Guess the cement didn't form a good enough moisture barrier. The rubber mat sealed off the top of the wood, not allowing it to breathe, and the trapped moisture rotted the wood layers. At least that's what another flooring guy told me happened.
FWIW, here's why I used both hard wood and laminate in my description.
laminated
[lam-uh-ney-tid] Spell Syllables
Examples Word Origin
adjective
1.
formed of or set in thin layers or laminae.
2.
constructed of layers of material bonded together:
laminated wood.
Now, back to the garage floor problem...tp
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Are you guys still talking about this? Really? :o :o
Must be cold out. ;D
Yes 13 in Milwaukee....
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At least that's what another flooring guy told me happened.
Now, back to the garage floor problem...tp
And he was spot on I would say; too bad the first flooring guy didn't know that.
I'm going to prolly cover my painted garage floors with some sort of rubber floor matting; will be costly but easy to do....
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To the guys having issues with Epoxy:
That is why I'm not going with an epoxy based system, but rather a penetrating sealer. The concrete looks and feels 100% natural/ bare, but when you spill something, it doesn't actually soak into the concrete. Generally good for over 20 years. No peeling, no moisture buildup, no hot tire issues.
EDIT: Here's a good article. http://allgaragefloors.com/concrete-floor-sealers/ (http://allgaragefloors.com/concrete-floor-sealers/)
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To the guys having issues with Epoxy:
That is why I'm not going with an epoxy based system, but rather a penetrating sealer. The concrete looks and feels 100% natural/ bare, but when you spill something, it doesn't actually soak into the concrete. Generally good for over 20 years. No peeling, no moisture buildup, no hot tire issues.
EDIT: Here's a good article. http://allgaragefloors.com/concrete-floor-sealers/ (http://allgaragefloors.com/concrete-floor-sealers/)
That is great for new concrete that already looks good and you want to keep it that way. Not so great for concrete that already has stains and such. People wanting to use the epoxy 2-part paint are usually doing so because the house they bought already had a not-great-looking slab.
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That is great for new concrete that already looks good and you want to keep it that way. Not so great for concrete that already has stains and such. People wanting to use the epoxy 2-part paint are usually doing so because the house they bought already had a not-great-looking slab.
Ahhh, gotcha. Well I will also be doing some thorough cleaning and possibly acid etching before I apply my coating, but I'm not too worried about old stains per-se, just want to make sure oil, chemicals, and other fun stuff doesn't get soaked into the concrete and cause a new ugly mess that's really hard to clean up. Especially with my history of bumping into an oil pan while changing oil or other general clumsiness lol
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Yes 13 in Milwaukee....
I'm sorry! It was only 83 here yesterday 8)
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Here is an option from a floor mat company I've done business with......
http://www.americanfloormats.com/garage-flooring/ (http://www.americanfloormats.com/garage-flooring/)
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That is what I got! I ordered it through Menards. I bought two 5x10 rolls and butted them up next to each other and held them down with double sided tape. So far so good, except they contract a bit when cold, so there is now a 1/4" gap between them. :( I might get another roll when I get my next bike. Gotta keep expanding. It's good for the economy, which needs all the help it can get.
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The local farm store has horse trailer mats that would work.