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Title: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Conrad on August 29, 2014, 04:47:40 AM
Stock!!!   :o

http://www.drivesrt.com/2015/challenger-srt-hellcat/ (http://www.drivesrt.com/2015/challenger-srt-hellcat/)

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRBsSiO85bODDx4h8mA2kVHPgVX52H2c2qsGbTBJjhZULGpxDbbSw)

~$60k

Already, we've not only driven but also track-tested the 2015 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat's sibling, the Challenger SRT Hellcat. With that 4449-pound coupe's 707-hp monster under the hood and an eight-speed automatic, 0-60 mph came and went in 3.7 seconds, onto a quarter mile time of 11.7 seconds at 125.4 mph. That time reflects launching the Challenger SRT Hellcat on asphalt, and without the help of all-wheel drive -- the optional six-speed manual might help produce quicker times. That manual gearbox, by the way, won't be available with the Charger SRT Hellcat. With the 2015 Charger SRT Hellcat sedan, just like the Challenger SRT Hellcat, moving rapidly is just part of the picture. The Charger SRT Hellcat is Dodge's rolling burnout machine, and now with additional space thanks to the extra two rear doors.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: jworth on August 29, 2014, 06:00:01 AM
I just can't understand why American car companies, maybe it's the American buyer, isn't more interested in cars that can turn. 
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: timsatx on August 29, 2014, 06:11:32 AM
Camaro, Corvette?
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: gPink on August 29, 2014, 06:15:28 AM
It's easier to street race point A to point B in a straight line. Always has been.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Rhino on August 29, 2014, 07:32:46 AM
Me likey!!
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Rhino on August 29, 2014, 12:56:49 PM
I just can't understand why American car companies, maybe it's the American buyer, isn't more interested in cars that can turn.

According to Car and Driver, Chevy Camaro 7/28 has faster lap times at Nürburgring then the new Porsche 911.

http://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/camaro-z-28 (http://www.caranddriver.com/chevrolet/camaro-z-28)
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Cuda on August 29, 2014, 02:39:46 PM
I just can't understand why American car companies, maybe it's the American buyer, isn't more interested in cars that can turn.

Yeah I can't wait for a CHINA car  :yikes: :1DeadBanana
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: JoeRau on August 29, 2014, 03:21:00 PM
I just can't understand why American car companies, maybe it's the American buyer, isn't more interested in cars that can turn.

I still want one.  I'll keep the C14 for the curves.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: sherob on August 29, 2014, 04:50:52 PM
I'm waiting to order... which will probably be January if not later.  Most dealers are asking $10k above MSRP just to be put on a list. :o 
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Conrad on August 30, 2014, 06:20:02 AM
I'm waiting to order... which will probably be January if not later.  Most dealers are asking $10k above MSRP just to be put on a list. :o

What color you gonna get?   :)
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: sherob on August 30, 2014, 12:17:50 PM
Bright White... Vanishing Point white.  :)

(http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/listen-to-the-2015-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-being-redlined-video-83027_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Strawboss on August 31, 2014, 07:55:20 AM
I read that this model style more closely follows the '71 model style. Rear lights, front grill?  Looks like we are in the middle of a golden era of muscle cars.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Rhino on September 01, 2014, 09:41:05 AM
Bright White... Vanishing Point white.  :)

(http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/listen-to-the-2015-dodge-challenger-srt-hellcat-being-redlined-video-83027_1.jpg)

Just beware of bulldozer road blocks.  :'(
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: timmerz on September 01, 2014, 10:31:01 AM
Really cool to see the "today" technologies applied to the "yesterday" concepts...the muscle cars of the seventies updated with the new millennium technology...I am in awe of the goals reached, that is a sweet ride!
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Racer Boy on September 01, 2014, 11:24:51 AM
If you compare a new Challenger or Camaro with the original versions, it's shocking to see how huge the new ones are. I bet they weigh about 1,000 lbs more, too.

Which makes the performance of the new ones even more impressive, since they have to lug the extra half-ton around.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: timsatx on September 01, 2014, 03:11:49 PM
I just did a search for the 1971 Challenger vs the 2014. 1971=3,495 lbs, 2014=3,834 lbs.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Cuda on September 01, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
Depends on the motor the 426  Cuda was 3,900lb

 http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/classic-muscle-cars/1970-plymouth-hemi-cuda.htm (http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/classic-muscle-cars/1970-plymouth-hemi-cuda.htm)
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Racer Boy on September 01, 2014, 04:37:20 PM
The curb weight I found for the 2014 Challenger w/V8 is 4160 lbs. I'm surprised it isn't more.

The 1967 Camaro weighed 2920 lbs (V8), the 2015 Camaro SS weighs 3900 lbs, for a gain of 1,000 lbs! Of course the '67 didn't have all the safety equipment, or creature comforts, or a stiff chassis, or decent brakes, etc. I'm not saying the new cars aren't better (they are), but they sure are a lot heavier.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Cholla on September 01, 2014, 07:52:03 PM
The Challenger weighs more than my 92 Dakota extended cab.
And that Dakota would outrun the 70 Challenger I learned to drive in. Bothpowered by 318s.
And, yes the new ones are huge and heavy. They are Chrysler 300s, after all.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: connie14boy on September 02, 2014, 12:19:51 AM
According to Car and Driver, Chevy Camaro 7/28 has faster lap times at Nürburgring then the new Porsche 911.



Just like the saying goes, " Follow the money, and you will find the truth" I find it hard to believe a bloated new Camaro will beat a 911 on any track for more than 1 lap. Chevy blew it- they could have updated the original 302 Z/28 which was a real light weight screamer, and gone head to head with the new Boss 302 at the track just like 45 years ago.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Cholla on September 02, 2014, 11:29:58 AM
There is no way in Hades the old Z/28 even modified would run with the new Mustang. Those old things don't handle at all. Most new cars will out handle anything from the 60s and 70s.
The old cars are nowhere near as stiff and suspension techmology has come a long way since then.
Title: Re: Dodge Hellcat, 707 HP 650 lb-ft of torque
Post by: Scaffolder on September 02, 2014, 06:22:33 PM
My favorite car. It is perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28krt9RCFj8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28krt9RCFj8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHkhCM6SXv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHkhCM6SXv8)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWMjR3r-nsI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWMjR3r-nsI)