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Mish mash => Open Forum => Topic started by: Rick Hall on August 20, 2014, 11:34:25 PM
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Much as I'd like, I can't make this 'crap' up.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/08/20/340154271/no-1-most-expensive-coffee-comes-from-elephants-no-2?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/08/20/340154271/no-1-most-expensive-coffee-comes-from-elephants-no-2?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)
Rick
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it seems as if there IS a market for everything...
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Very true..
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I've heard of coffee from monkey $hit but this is the first I've heard of it from elephants. Another example of "The Emperors New Clothes" in action.
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I'm glad I just like coffee without the twists. I can't stand coffee adulterated with different kinds of :censored: in it.
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I think Kopi Luwak coffee is the same thing but they run the beans through a cat rather than an elephant.
Must be where the expression "Full of beans" comes from- I guess it means there is a load of coffee on its way. :-)
Brian
Much as I'd like, I can't make this 'crap' up.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/08/20/340154271/no-1-most-expensive-coffee-comes-from-elephants-no-2?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/08/20/340154271/no-1-most-expensive-coffee-comes-from-elephants-no-2?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news)
Rick
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I'm glad I just like coffee without the twists. I can't stand coffee adulterated with different kinds of :censored: in it.
+1 Black and the only flavor I like in it is coffee flavor.
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:thumbs:
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Oh yeah? Well I am a 'cream and sugar' guy and you are wrong! And where is your data? Can you prove black is best?
Oh wait, wrong forum. :rotflmao:
Brian
+1 Black and the only flavor I like in it is coffee flavor.
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Lets see if we can get this thread bounced to the forum. ;D
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Lets see if we can get this thread bounced to the forum.
Me me me - pick me!
I think Kopi Luwak coffee is the same thing but they run the beans through a cat rather than an elephant.
I think you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_palm_civet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_palm_civet)
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I'm glad I just like coffee without the twists. I can't stand coffee adulterated with different kinds of :censored: in it.
And very literally correct in this context.
Nor do I have to pay money for a coffee at some franchised, overcharging, busy, "cafe". Ok, so one cup in the morning at home with the wife and with some French Vanilla (if we are out of Amarretto), then it's straight black after that.
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I think the first two photos say it all.
So maybe people who own a cat(s) and have a litter box have been shoveling valuable little treasures into the garbage all this time?
Brian
I think you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_palm_civet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_palm_civet)
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Pardon me while I :pukeface:
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It's a complete non starter for me when I read...Kopi Luwak is coffee prepared using coffee beans that have been subjected to ingestion and fermentation in the gastrointestinal tract of the Asian palm civet, which is called luwak in Indonesia. Caffeine content in both Arabica and Robusta luwak coffee is lower than in unfermented coffee.....What's the point.
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Since it is ridiculously expensive and the luwak is a relatively small animal, some genius though, "just think how much more coffee we could process if we fed it to an elephant instead of some small cat!"
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Well, that plus the cat droppings are more of a single serving size while the elephant droppings can service entire wedding banquets....
Brian
Since it is ridiculously expensive and the luwak is a relatively small animal, some genius though, "just think how much more coffee we could process if we fed it to an elephant instead of some small cat!"
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Wonder what an elephant coming off a good coffee buzz does?? ???
Or once they get the beast "hooked" on the caffeine, how do you retire him?
Remember, an elephant never forgets, so they say.
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Wonder what an elephant coming off a good coffee buzz does?? ???
Or once they get the beast "hooked" on the caffeine, how do you retire him?
Remember, an elephant never forgets, so they say.
There's going to be a LOT of grumpy elephants waiting for their coffee in the mornings!
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Wonder what an elephant coming off a good coffee buzz does?? ???
Or once they get the beast "hooked" on the caffeine, how do you retire him?
Remember, an elephant never forgets, so they say.
:goodpost: Some of the caffein must be getting into the elephants system.
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I can just imagine trying to explain exactly what a person does to "harvest" the beans. Maybe something like this:
"Well, I gather coffee beans for the roasting and exporting company."
"Oh, so you pick bean off the trees?"
"Well, not exactly, by the time I get to them they have been picked already and the..... ah..... first step of......ah..... processing is already done."
Brian (trying to get THAT mental image out of my mind)
There's going to be a LOT of grumpy elephants waiting for their coffee in the mornings!
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I know - I just can't imagine how they thought of doing this.
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I know - I just can't imagine how they thought of doing this.
You know, regular coffee just isn't 'doing it' for me any longer. I wonder how I can get more of a kick outta my beans. Hmmm, are those coffee beans in that pile of **** under that tree? Hey, I have an idea...
:hitfan:
:pukeface:
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You know, regular coffee just isn't 'doing it' for me any longer. I wonder how I can get more of a kick outta my beans. Hmmm, are those coffee beans in that pile of **** under that tree? Hey, I have an idea...
+1 I've seen lots of things, like this, that I just can't understand the logic of how they came about. I was in line at an airline in Boston airport in the 80's and a guy was wearing navy blue pants with little lime green whales all over them. I couldn't for the life of me understand how that could have happened.
Cloth manufacture: "hey, lets make some navy blue cloth with lime green whales"
Pants manufacture: "hey, lets buy that cloth and make pants from it"
Wholesale co: "hey, lets buy those pants cuz I'm sure we'll sell a million of them"
Retail outlet: "hey, I can't think of anything better to put on our shelves"
Customer: "hey, I need new pants and these are just the ticket"
What are the odds of all of those happening?
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I live in southern New England and there is lots 'o stuff at the edge and in the water that 1) I am amazed people eat and 2) have always wondered how 'they' found out such a thing was even edible? I can see it now- "Hey Trog, try breaking one of those oval rocks (a quahog) and eating the innards- I dare 'ya!" Oysters, mussels, crabs, lobsters ('bugs' as I like to call them)... who tried them first? I mentioned this to a friend one time and he answered immediately- a starving man found out you can eat that stuff. I guess watching the seagulls eat all of that stuff at least showed it was some form of food.
Maybe the coffee bean / dung thingy came about from people who normally eat dung and found a particularly tasty batch one day? Say Trog, this dung gooder than that dung over there! Make me want run fast and catch antelope!
:-)
Brian
You know, regular coffee just isn't 'doing it' for me any longer. I wonder how I can get more of a kick outta my beans. Hmmm, are those coffee beans in that pile of **** under that tree? Hey, I have an idea...
:hitfan:
:pukeface:
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I can see that happening if you add alcohol and or opiates to a few sections of your outline.
Brian
+1 I've seen lots of things, like this, that I just can't understand the logic of how they came about. I was in line at an airline in Boston airport in the 80's and a guy was wearing navy blue pants with little lime green whales all over them. I couldn't for the life of me understand how that could have happened.
Cloth manufacture: "hey, lets make some navy blue cloth with lime green whales"
Pants manufacture: "hey, lets buy that cloth and make pants from it"
Wholesale co: "hey, lets buy those pants cuz I'm sure we'll sell a million of them"
Retail outlet: "hey, I can't think of anything better to put on our shelves"
Customer: "hey, I need new pants and these are just the ticket"
What are the odds of all of those happening?
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What about an egg?? Who figured trying the first one of those (whatever the source-chicken, lizard, dino, etc) was a good idea?? :-\ :P
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I do not know but I would use the same guess- early man saw lizards / snakes / birds and such eating eggs and decided it would be a great base for a hollandaise sauce... :-) Or maybe he just ate them raw like Rocky in the movie.
Brian
What about an egg?? Who figured trying the first one of those (whatever the source-chicken, lizard, dino, etc) was a good idea?? :-\ :P
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If this great flavor has to do with fermentation you would think you could do it in another way?
I use a Cuisinart automatic grind and brew unit and good old Eight O'Clock nuts I'm happy.
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I've heard of coffee from monkey $hit but this is the first I've heard of it from elephants. Another example of "The Emperors New Clothes" in action.
Yes, I thought it came from monkeys too.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/kopiluwak.htm (http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/kopiluwak.htm)
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From your link:
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The animal processes the beans and excretes them whole, unscratched, and without dung.
The animal is a palm civet, a dark brown tree-dwelling cat-like creature found throughout Southeast Asia. The scientific name is paradoxurus hermaphroditus.
According to the Manila Coffee House, the palm civet just happens to like to ingest the ripest and reddest coffee beans, which also happen to be the ones best for brewing. The cat eats the outer covering of the beans in the same way that is accomplished by de-pulping machines. Something happens to the beans in the journey through the cat's intestines that gives it a flavor that is celebrated by coffee drinkers.
<end quote>
Now what would be absolutely fantastic is if one could have one of those civets as a pet.... and train it to..... er..... deposit..... the beans into the coffee grinder directly. At the end of a dinner party, one could just whistle up 'Clyde', have him do his stuff ("drop the duce" in civet- coffee speak), and make some of the best, freshest coffee in the world!
I betcha' Strawboss would love to rent such a thing and invite his idiot brother- in- law over.... Jess' sayin'.
;D
Brian
Yes, I thought it came from monkeys too.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/kopiluwak.htm (http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/kopiluwak.htm)
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Again... :pukeface:
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Tusk tusk...
Elephant sized.
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From your link:
The animal processes the beans and excretes them whole, unscratched, and without dung.
The animal is a palm civet, a dark brown tree-dwelling cat-like creature found throughout Southeast Asia. The scientific name is paradoxurus hermaphroditus.
According to the Manila Coffee House, the palm civet just happens to like to ingest the ripest and reddest coffee beans, which also happen to be the ones best for brewing. The cat eats the outer covering of the beans in the same way that is accomplished by de-pulping machines. Something happens to the beans in the journey through the cat's intestines that gives it a flavor that is celebrated by coffee drinkers.
How? That's got to be propaganda from the coffee snobs.
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How? That's got to be propaganda from the coffee snobs.
With proper training of course... ;)
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Hey, it absolutely could be. I personally have never seen or tasted the coffee, seen the beans or the animal they <ahem> come from. ??
I am a firm believer in the concept of 'The king's new clothes (he was nude)' scenario. That is the only thing possible that could explain a lot of humans' behavior. I would not be surprised if the coffee tasted like $*%& myself. ;) ;D
Brian
How? That's got to be propaganda from the coffee snobs.
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With proper training of course... ;)
The snobs or the elephant/civit/monkey/whatever?
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The roasting process "should" kill any bacteria left over :-X In the spirit of the "Great exhaust test of 2008" I will feed my dog King some raw, unprocessed beans, follow him around until it is processed in the grandest fashion, wash the beans, roast them, and send them to Brian for sampling. I would but I no longer have the mad powah of KIPASS at my disposal and Brian has that wonderful bypass switch.
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The snobs or the elephant/civit/monkey/whatever?
Yes.
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From one of the links here:
"The monkey - known as the Palm Toddy Cat - lives on a diet of alcoholic tree sap and coffee berries."
We should be so lucky...
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I can see some of us are going to need a coffee bean bypass.
Besides, a real man would eat them fresh from the garden (or the lawn) for the true experience. :pukeface:
Brian
The roasting process "should" kill any bacteria left over :-X In the spirit of the "Great exhaust test of 2008" I will feed my dog King some raw, unprocessed beans, follow him around until it is processed in the grandest fashion, wash the beans, roast them, and send them to Brian for sampling. I would but I no longer have the mad powah of KIPASS at my disposal and Brian has that wonderful bypass switch.
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My dog sniffed the beans, but wouldn't eat them..
Here kitty kitty. ;D
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I bet squirrels would go for it. 3 beans at a time, gonna make for a really expensive cup of joe.
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Tried it but did not notice any difference. In fact, the coffee beans just kind of rattle around in there until the squirrel is tipped upward and then they drop out in exactly the condition they went in. Maybe it depends on the squirrel though?
Brian
I bet squirrels would go for it. 3 beans at a time, gonna make for a really expensive cup of joe.