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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: rocknrod on July 14, 2014, 12:37:15 PM
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Anyone else put this Kriss Brake/Turn signal flasher on their Concours 14?
It can also Wig-Wag the lights so they say. I bit pricey but I'm going to try it out.
http://www.kriss.com/bltsystem.php (http://www.kriss.com/bltsystem.php)
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$250?
I got a police LED that I wired into the brake light in 2 minutes, flashes in 12 different patterns, and lights up the whole damn neighborhood when it's flashing for $50
http://www.galls.com/galls-surface-mount-led-light#.U8Qx3vldWSo (http://www.galls.com/galls-surface-mount-led-light#.U8Qx3vldWSo)
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That's nice. I don't want to add lights however. Just a wig wag type box to make what is there better. Nice link :) And it's $199.
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$250?
I got a police LED that I wired into the brake light in 2 minutes, flashes in 12 different patterns, and lights up the whole damn neighborhood when it's flashing for $50
http://www.galls.com/galls-surface-mount-led-light#.U8Qx3vldWSo (http://www.galls.com/galls-surface-mount-led-light#.U8Qx3vldWSo)
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll112/tomdvaughan/emoticons/useless_without_pics_2gif.jpg) (http://s286.photobucket.com/user/tomdvaughan/media/emoticons/useless_without_pics_2gif.jpg.html)
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Anyone else put this Kriss Brake/Turn signal flasher on their Concours 14?
It can also Wig-Wag the lights so they say. I bit pricey but I'm going to try it out.
http://www.kriss.com/bltsystem.php (http://www.kriss.com/bltsystem.php)
I like the fact that it flashed the turn signals initially. Interesting.
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$250?
I got a police LED that I wired into the brake light in 2 minutes, flashes in 12 different patterns, and lights up the whole damn neighborhood when it's flashing for $50
http://www.galls.com/galls-surface-mount-led-light#.U8Qx3vldWSo (http://www.galls.com/galls-surface-mount-led-light#.U8Qx3vldWSo)
I put one of these on my wifes bike but instead used a LIN6
http://www.galls.com/whelen-linz6-super-led-lighthead?PMSRCE=92350001&SESSIONID=000000090236183#.U8RBTPldVXU (http://www.galls.com/whelen-linz6-super-led-lighthead?PMSRCE=92350001&SESSIONID=000000090236183#.U8RBTPldVXU)
and one of these from Skene, it actually modulated the LINZ6 so it flashes all the time but so inconspicuously it is an attention getter but by no means obnoxious. The Skene also allows it to act as a running light, that is what allows it to be seen at all times and to modulate just like a headlight modulates.
http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/IQ_160.shtml (http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/IQ_160.shtml)
basically modulates and flashes like the brake light in this vid
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPm5Ue2Vj8M)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPm5Ue2Vj8M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPm5Ue2Vj8M)
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...and one of these from Skene, it actually modulated the LINZ6 so it flashes all the time but so inconspicuously it is an attention getter but by no means obnoxious. The Skene also allows it to act as a running light, that is what allows it to be seen at all times and to modulate just like a headlight modulates.
http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/IQ_160.shtml (http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/IQ_160.shtml)
basically modulates and flashes like the brake light in this vid
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPm5Ue2Vj8M)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPm5Ue2Vj8M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPm5Ue2Vj8M)
Price is right for sure. Say's it does allot of options. http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/IQ_160_Wiring.html (http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/IQ_160_Wiring.html)
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I believe we discussed something like this a long time ago, but can't remember.
I imagine flashing the yellow turn signals with the brake lights (or having them on solid) might be illegal (or it probably should be). But there are plenty of brake flashers out there. That Panther also seems a bit expensive for what it is.
I use an Admore lightbar addition which has the brake flash function built-in (of course, that was too expensive also). Plus it is the nice kind that blinks only a few times (5?) and then goes solid, and will not blink again until X amount of time off the brake, so it is not annoying (and also has turn signals, but I don't think the Concours needs it). On my previous bikes I had the same functionality but added it to the stock brake light and I think it was something like a $35 product.
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On my old RT I just added a 6volt flasher unit inline with the brake light wire before the brake light. Poor man's pulsating brake light . Call me cheap. It worked.
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Actually I have police officers tell me it was a great idea on previous bikes.
They were more concerned with safety.
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$19.95 www.xdponline.com (http://www.xdponline.com)
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Actually I have police officers tell me it was a great idea on previous bikes.
Doesn't mean it is legal. Of course, neither is speeding or riding without an inspection sticker... and I do both.
They were more concerned with safety.
Part of safety is consistency in light color, location, brightness, and function, though. It ends up being confusing, misleading, or distracting. Otherwise, people would add blue lights, green, purple, 600 lumens, chasing, whatever.
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$19.95 www.xdponline.com (http://www.xdponline.com)
http://www.xdponline.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=180 (http://www.xdponline.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=180)
Wow- that is cheap and yet still a reasonable price for even the seller to still make decent money on it. Also has the important reactivation delay feature plus selectable delay and pattern. I would replace the included Scotchlock with something else.
Looks like this is the company that makes it: http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/ (http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/) much better photos, super tiny and encased in clear epoxy so it really is waterproof and protected. Downloadable manual too.
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http://www.vizi-tec.com/supabrake-2/ (http://www.vizi-tec.com/supabrake-2/)
also has an option for a additional output connector.
there could be a newer version in the works, next few weeks/months.
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I bought one two years ago , still sits in the drawer, someday I'll ...
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I had the Kriss rear light modulator with the wig wag on my old Triumph 1050 Tiger. They worked well but were a bit of work to put in. I stripped them off the Tiger when I traded it in on the C14 but have not got around to doing it. it would make a good winter project. It does require you to cut into some wiring for the installation. It was reliable and always worked
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That's what I thought and will be doing this also.
I'm in Nevada right now working and have a NHP office in the same building. The officer there also agreed it was a great idea (saves lives etc) and he's seen them before.
So that makes three different states officers (who I have spoken to) who say they save lives.
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Looks like this is the company that makes it: http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/ (http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/) much better photos, super tiny and encased in clear epoxy so it really is waterproof and protected. Downloadable manual too.
Max, could you provide a link? I can't find it, and I'm interested :-\
EDIT: found it!
Anyways, I was thinking if it wouldn't be neat to have one of those that make the brake lights flash when the deceleration is higher than, say, 0.5 g, just like in high end cars, which even turn the hazard lights if coming to a full stop. That I would jump on.
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Anyways, I was thinking if it wouldn't be neat to have one of those that make the brake lights flash when the deceleration is higher than, say, 0.5 g, just like in high end cars, which even turn the hazard lights if coming to a full stop. That I would jump on.
Yes, I very much like that concept. So far I have only seen that kickstarter license plate thing that does it....
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Yes, I very much like that concept. So far I have only seen that kickstarter license plate thing that does it....
http://vololights.com/ (http://vololights.com/)
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http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/rights/State-Laws.aspx?stateid=37 (http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/rights/State-Laws.aspx?stateid=37)
list by state (see map on bottom of page) of applicable laws including whether it's legal to have a modulated brake light in your state
I was in law enforcement for over a decade, I don't know any cop who would write a ticket for a modulated brake light (unless you had it flash blue and red) on a motorcycle, regardless of the written law (well, unless the driver was REALLY being an ass)
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list by state (see map on bottom of page) of applicable laws including whether it's legal to have a modulated brake light in your state
I was in law enforcement for over a decade, I don't know any cop who would write a ticket for a modulated brake light (unless you had it flash blue and red) on a motorcycle, regardless of the written law (well, unless the driver was REALLY being an ass)
Well, nobody is questioning the legality of a brake light modulator- only the one that includes the YELLOW turn signals in the brake light function. It is a grey area (I have looked at various legal stuff before and it isn't completely clear- rear facing yellow lights are generally only allowed as turn signals on typical vehicles). It is unlikely anyone would get pulled for it (or a ticket for it), but it is certainly possible. I do think it will send a non-standard and possibly confusing message to other drivers and that there are better alternatives (modulating just the brake light or adding additional red brake lights with and/or without modulation).
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Most Police Officers feel differently.
I would think they get tired of seeing motorcycles rear ended at stop lights/signs.
Where a standard tail light has failed in many cases.
Either way your entitled to your opinion as am I and many others.
Now if you want to talk about modulating headlights. I'm not for those at all.
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Now if you want to talk about modulating headlights. I'm not for those at all.
One of the BEST things I put on my bike .... I love when people move over or s l o w d o w n :stirpot:
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Now if you want to talk about modulating headlights. I'm not for those at all.
Oh lordy, a hotly debated topic. But I do agree with you.
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why would you want the yellows to modulate when you apply the brake?
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why would you want the yellows to modulate when you apply the brake?
Their concept is that it increases visibility and conspicuousness. Which it does, no doubt, but with added issues.
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If the added issues are being seen better and not getting rear ended by people who don't see motorcycles I'll take em.
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If the added issues are being seen better and not getting rear ended by people who don't see motorcycles I'll take em.
Both of which can be accomplished by just modulating the brake light and/or adding additional red brake lights (with or without modulation).
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wig-wag....hmmmm.....
I'd be afraid of wanting to wear matching pajama outfits & stopping at every dairy queen w/ the wing crowd.. :rotflmao:
those Volo lights however.....+1
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Stating the obvious, but: If it looks different than everything else it's going to get more attention. Confusing or not I'd rather have the attention of other drivers than not. I can't imagine somebody saying, "I saw all these confusing flashing lights, so I accelerated."
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Stating the obvious, but: If it looks different than everything else it's going to get more attention. Confusing or not I'd rather have the attention of other drivers than not. I can't imagine somebody saying, "I saw all these confusing flashing lights, so I accelerated."
Turned out to be a cop behind me. 8)
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The cheap http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/ (http://www.3rdbrakeflasher.com/) seems like a good option. I already have the Vololight plate frame, so I would have to put this flasher after the split for the Vololight, but that would be easy enough to do.
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Stating the obvious, but: If it looks different than everything else it's going to get more attention. Confusing or not I'd rather have the attention of other drivers than not.
You are absolutely correct, it will get more attention by being different. But that is not necessarily a good thing. Driving is mostly an automatic endeavor... it normally doesn't require a lot of conscious processing, which is a good thing, because it means that reactions are normally fast and efficient. However, when something is encountered that is very different, it then kicks in conscious thought to make sense of the situation and that costs in reaction time. It will vary greatly from person to person and for each situation, but it is still a factor. There is also the possibility of "novelty fixation" in which something different becomes distractingly interesting, causing attention to drift.
I can't imagine somebody saying, "I saw all these confusing flashing lights, so I accelerated."
And yet I can easily imagine someone saying "I wasn't sure what I saw and lost some time before I realized he was braking" or "For a split second I thought there were two vehicles so I couldn't judge the distance correctly and didn't realize how close he was" or "I was fascinated by these unusual lights ahead and didn't see that car drifting in my lane".
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wig-wag....hmmmm.....
I'd be afraid of wanting to wear matching pajama outfits & stopping at every dairy queen w/ the wing crowd.. :rotflmao:
those Volo lights however.....+1
I haven't seen the need for pajama outfits, but I notice a lot of people aren't sure if I'm a cop or not when it's flashing and give me plenty of extra room, and that doesn't bother me a bit