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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Beachbum on June 30, 2014, 09:48:19 PM
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Love to hear any and all experiences with aftermarket seats for the C14 (mine's a '08), including strong recommendations. I understand that a mc seat is a personal choice, but I'm also interested in build quality and materials used, and the customer experience with the maker.
As of now I'm considering the Seargent and the Corbin. I frankly haven't even been able to identify any other makers of seats for our bike.
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I had a Seth Lam, didn't do anything for me, except give me a sore rump. have a Bill Mayer now, better, but they took up too much of the seat Good luck for me, not leaving enough room for my wife. She is pretty petite too. The best part of my part of the seat is not really even usable due to the forward slope. I'm going with a Baldwin now, that was my first choice, but he is real busy so you have to get on the schedule. He rides a Connie, so I figure he knows how to build a seat for one without the dern forward slope.
All just opinions though, for what it is worth. Good luck! :)
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Welcome!!
Please use the search function under "Accessories" (this is the wrong sub-forum) and you will find dozens of threads about replacement seats. Try these links:
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=search2 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?action=search2)
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?board=3.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?board=3.0)
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I bought a Russel Day Long. Felt pretty comfy, but between the wings and the height, I didn't feel stable at a stop (33" inseam). I could barely get my both toes down. I sold it and had Corbin build me a custom version, much lower seat height - I can now flat foot the bike at a stop with my knees bent. It does make for a more aggressive knee position while riding and I'm considering lowering the foot pegs to increase comfort.
As for the seat - they said it would take about 1000 miles to break in. They lied. :o It took me a little over 2000. And the seat is hard. I put it on, rode it around for a few hundred miles and then left on a 2-week trip. About day three, I was ready to burn the seat. :'( About day five it never even crossed my mind. Maybe it's true what they say: "You don't break in a Corbin seat - it breaks you in."
Anyway - wouldn't trade it for anything now. And love the heated seat option that I chose. 8)
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And love the heated seat option that I chose. 8)
Is the heated seat really worth it? I've heard it both ways but most seem to think not. I live in So.Cal and can ride year-round but I do live in an area where it can dip into the low 20's during the winter. I am going to buy a custom seat (hopefully soon) and have been doing a lot of thinking...heated or non-heated.
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Is the heated seat really worth it? I've heard it both ways but most seem to think not. I live in So.Cal and can ride year-round but I do live in an area where it can dip into the low 20's during the winter. I am going to buy a custom seat (hopefully soon) and have been doing a lot of thinking...heated or non-heated.
I had the heated Corbin on my 2011. Loved it. Once you've had heat, you won't go back. Saving up to put a heated seat on my GS now.
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I have a Corbin for around town riding... RDL for anything over 300 miles. I had a Corbin and a Sargent on a prior ST bike... I went back to Corbin on this bike.
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I had a Corbin and a Sargent on a prior ST bike... I went back to Corbin on this bike.
What was it about the Sargent you didn't care for?
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What was it about the Sargent you didn't care for?
Slide around a lot w/ synthetic pants on... IIRC. :o
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Ifn yer pants bother you....
Man rides naked on a motorcycle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPzolO4NsGg#ws)
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Everyone's rump is different. I wasn't impressed by the Sargent, I didn't hate it but it didn't wow me. I just picked up the low gel seat and like it so far. I was never able to plant both feet on the ground; still can't but it's closer.
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Is the heated seat really worth it? I've heard it both ways but most seem to think not.
To me? No. I bought it as an included option on the Sargent World low seat, thinking it might be handy.... really, I think every other heated accessory is far more valuable (grips, jacket, pants, whatever). My butt sitting on an insulated foam seat with zero air flow over it is just not cold :)
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Is the heated seat really worth it? I've heard it both ways but most seem to think not. I live in So.Cal and can ride year-round but I do live in an area where it can dip into the low 20's during the winter. I am going to buy a custom seat (hopefully soon) and have been doing a lot of thinking...heated or non-heated.
I see no reason at all be uncomfortable out there. I could also make some safety point about being cold takes your mind off the road, but that's just spousal-justification. Truth is, some times in a high pass I just don't want to stop the bike and get out the heated liner and gloves. The heated seat and grip warmers do the trick (until they don't :o). Well worth the extra $. YMMV.
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To me? No. I bought it as an included option on the Sargent World low seat, thinking it might be handy.... really, I think every other heated accessory is far more valuable (grips, jacket, pants, whatever). My butt sitting on an insulated foam seat with zero air flow over it is just not cold :)
True - not saying it replaces anything - but then once I'm moving, I don't want to stop. ;D
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True - not saying it replaces anything - but then once I'm moving, I don't want to stop. ;D
This could help...
Refueling at 150 mph (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T31-B16wBPg#ws)
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This could help...
I want one! 8) 8) 8)
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I couldn't ride for more than 150 miles on the factory so I upgraded to the Baldwin Grand Touring seat (leather)... I now go for 700 miles before thinking about my hind end.
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jscon...what RAM mount setup do you have in your picture? Does it do a good job holding onto the phone?
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Ram X Grip and it is a great solution.
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I have done over 1000 miles in a day on the stock seat, but wanted to get something better.
Bought a Sargent and it was unbearable after 150 miles. I just could not get comfortable on it.
Bought a Corbin. Seems hard as a rock and I was unsure about it. Have since gone over 700 miles in a day and find that it fits my rear. I did find that I needed to put risers on the bike to make the Corbin comfortable as the design caused me to lean forward. I ride further back on the corbin then I did the other two.
Good luck!
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I want one! 8) 8) 8)
Me too! Might have to redesign the front for the attachment. I'm sure ZG would be up for leading the prototype development! ;D
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I have done over 1000 miles in a day on the stock seat, but wanted to get something better.
Bought a Sargent and it was unbearable after 150 miles. I just could not get comfortable on it.
Bought a Corbin. Seems hard as a rock and I was unsure about it. Have since gone over 700 miles in a day and find that it fits my rear. I did find that I needed to put risers on the bike to make the Corbin comfortable as the design caused me to lean forward. I ride further back on the corbin then I did the other two.
Good luck!
I agree about the Corbin seating position. Just raising the bars doesn't help completely, it would be better if you could bring the bars back a touch. I have a 2009. Also, the front is a bit too rounded, humped, which causes some pain at times. They seem to have made the Corbin for Kim Kardashian. It is a decent seat though. As far as the Sargent is concerned, I put a lot of 800+ mile days on it and it was good originally, but seemed to break down a bit after a few thousand miles.
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I agree about the Corbin seating position. Just raising the bars doesn't help completely, it would be better if you could bring the bars back a touch. I have a 2009. Also, the front is a bit too rounded, humped, which causes some pain at times. They seem to have made the Corbin for Kim Kardashian. It is a decent seat though. As far as the Sargent is concerned, I put a lot of 800+ mile days on it and it was good originally, but seemed to break down a bit after a few thousand miles.
The risers I installed advertise a 3/4" pull back. Prior to the risers I found myself doing some finger tip driving on the highway to take some pressure off of my back.
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Me too! Might have to redesign the front for the attachment. I'm sure ZG would be up for leading the prototype development! ;D
:o :rotflmao: :chugbeer:
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I agree about the Corbin seating position. Just raising the bars doesn't help completely, it would be better if you could bring the bars back a touch. I have a 2009. Also, the front is a bit too rounded, humped, which causes some pain at times. They seem to have made the Corbin for Kim Kardashian. It is a decent seat though. As far as the Sargent is concerned, I put a lot of 800+ mile days on it and it was good originally, but seemed to break down a bit after a few thousand miles.
The PE bars do exactly that (bring them back towards you) and are a perfect marriage with the Corbin seat.
When Corbin built my seat I had them do what they call a "nose job", it take's that hump on the front out, feels great to me. :thumbs: :thumbs:
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/78141_zps274b3820.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/78141_zps274b3820.jpg.html)
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The risers I installed advertise a 3/4" pull back. Prior to the risers I found myself doing some finger tip driving on the highway to take some pressure off of my back.
Mine brings them back a bit as well. I don't mind leaning forward, I came from an RC51 last, the Corbin just isn't really shaped right for the type of bike the C14 is.
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The PE bars do exactly that (bring them back towards you) and are a perfect marriage with the Corbin seat.
When Corbin built my seat I had them do what they call a "nose job", it take's that hump on the front out, feels great to me. :thumbs: :thumbs:
I remember you had that done. I have talked to Corbin and they are willing to cut the nose down, or even replace the foam with a softer foam. Unfortunately I gave them special instructions when I had it made and they ignored them, they sent their usual seat.
Overall it is okay, I just believe it is made for someone with a large ass compared to mine. I would prefer it to not be dished out so much, that would also help get me off of the parts I don't want to be on. I still haven't decided if I just want them to do the nose job or replace the foam. In the meantime, I have been riding it and occasionally I compress the nose to help it break down a bit.
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I have a hate-hate relationship with stock seats. Maybe it's because I'm tall, I'll never know what a seat would feel like if I was 5'8". Anyhow, the stock Concours 14 seat inches me forward as I ride, bunching up my underwear and pants into my crotch. It gets old quick. Interestingly, I had a Yamaha FJR1300, same thing. Well, I bought a Saddleman Explorer RS seat. About half as bad as stock for forward tilt and inching forward. Still not acceptable. I have emailed Saddlemen, asking if they can fix their own seats. I also asked if they knew their seats did not cure the forward tilt problem. An automated answer stated that they were busy, and a reply might take a while. Not what I would call great customer service. I'll keep the Saddlemen seat until I get a Baldwin seat made on my stock seat pan. Mid August, I was quoted. Then the Saddlemen will be for sale. I'll let you know how the Baldwin works out. I am optimistic.
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I didn't have a problem with the stock seat.... I just wanted a Smuggler ;)
Heated seat???? you NUTS ...NOT in south Florida :o
I might get a sheep skin for trips.
Corbin said they could but soft foam in place of the stock foam for free , life time warranty :chugbeer:
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Corbin said they could but soft foam in place of the stock foam for free , life time warranty :chugbeer:
Yeah, that's what they told me. I have more of an issue with the shape. I am concerned the soft foam will break down too much. I would love to know exactly how soft the foam is and if it compares to the Sargent. If it was in between the two it might be okay. If they made the seat to resemble something other than the Grand Canyon I believe it would be better.
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I have a hate-hate relationship with stock seats. Maybe it's because I'm tall, I'll never know what a seat would feel like if I was 5'8".
If you have short legs (like some of us), it doesn't matter much how it feels because the most important thing is having the lowest seat possible :( Low = less foam = less comfort, unfortunately.
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Russell Day Long Seat. Very comfortable and as it's name indicates, you can ride all day. The only draw back is that it does raise the distance between the seat and the ground by about 1 1/2"'s.
This is a busy time of year to get a custom seat built, so be prepared for an extended wait time. No matter who you have build it.
Brent
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I sent my stock seat out to Baldwin Saddle, was pretty pleased with it for the most part..
Because of my height I had it shaved some so I could sit further back and added a gel insert..
http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014%20GT.htm (http://www.motorbikesaddles.com/Kawasaki%20Concours%2014%20GT.htm)
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Guess there are a ton of aftermarket seat makers. I chose a Rick Mayer
http://www.rickmayercycle.com/gallery/Kawasaki-Concours-14-Dual-XL.jpg (http://www.rickmayercycle.com/gallery/Kawasaki-Concours-14-Dual-XL.jpg)
My wife and I do 8 hour days and she has never complained about her butt being sore. Enough said!
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It is a shame we don't have loaner seats on this forum like the loaner windshields.
It would be great to try a seat or two before buying.
Seat manufacturers would benefit also.
They would be able to win over a customer by the seat of his/hers pants.
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It is a shame we don't have loaner seats on this forum like the loaner windshields.
It would be great to try a seat or two before buying.
Seat manufacturers would benefit also.
They would be able to win over a customer by the seat of his/hers pants.
I'm sure that the shipping cost would be significantly more for seats than it is for the windshields. Plus, that "break-in" of the seats wouldn't quite work out. Good concept though.
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I took the bike to Cincinnati Saturday and came back Sunday. It is 320 miles one way. I stopped for gas once but didn't get off the bike. For me, as far as trips go, it was a short one. I took the Corbin off today and put the Sargent back on. I also took the risers off. I think they may contribute to the sliding forward a bit. I will send the Corbin back for adjustment. I really wish they would have made it a little more like the Sargent. The Corbin is dished too much for me and as we mentioned before, the front is rounded too much causing pain. I will probably try their softer foam. I like a firm saddle, but I was in pain by the time I got home last night.
On my bicycle, I ride with a leather seat, all it is is a formed piece of leather, no padding. I am fine on it all day. I rode form Pittsburgh to Washington DC with no problem on it, the longest day being 70 miles, so a firm seat is no issue. The leather bicycle seat has a bir more flex than the Corbin does for me though, and the weight is on the sit bones, not the soft parts.
I hope they can make this seat comfortable, if not I will stay with the Sargent.
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I took the bike to Cincinnati Saturday and came back Sunday. It is 320 miles one way. I stopped for gas once but didn't get off the bike. For me, as far as trips go, it was a short one. I took the Corbin off today and put the Sargent back on. I also took the risers off. I think they may contribute to the sliding forward a bit. I will send the Corbin back for adjustment. I really wish they would have made it a little more like the Sargent. The Corbin is dished too much for me and as we mentioned before, the front is rounded too much causing pain. I will probably try their softer foam. I like a firm saddle, but I was in pain by the time I got home last night.
On my bicycle, I ride with a leather seat, all it is is a formed piece of leather, no padding. I am fine on it all day. I rode form Pittsburgh to Washington DC with no problem on it, the longest day being 70 miles, so a firm seat is no issue. The leather bicycle seat has a bir more flex than the Corbin does for me though, and the weight is on the sit bones, not the soft parts.
I hope they can make this seat comfortable, if not I will stay with the Sargent.
That's exactly how I felt about my Corbin when I first put it on. But after about a 1000 miles it became more comfortable and now 2 years and 20,000 miles later I love my Corbin.
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That's exactly how I felt about my Corbin when I first put it on. But after about a 1000 miles it became more comfortable and now 2 years and 20,000 miles later I love my Corbin.
I have about 7,000 miles on my Corbin.
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To my surprise, I found that the risers do contribute to the sliding forward problem. I bought a Saddlemen Explorer RS seat, found that it was about half as bad as stock in the sliding forward category. I removed my 2" risers and the Saddlemen seat is very close to acceptable. In fact, I have hope that it will break in, and with wise clothing choices, be a good seat. I am beginning to like it, it is comfortable. Not quite on subject, but worth saying. Without the risers, my C14 feels like the evil spawn of the ZX14, rather than a wanna be Gold Wing.
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To my surprise, I found that the risers do contribute to the sliding forward problem. I bought a Saddlemen Explorer RS seat, found that it was about half as bad as stock in the sliding forward category. I removed my 2" risers and the Saddlemen seat is very close to acceptable. In fact, I have hope that it will break in, and with wise clothing choices, be a good seat. I am beginning to like it, it is comfortable. Not quite on subject, but worth saying. Without the risers, my C14 feels like the evil spawn of the ZX14, rather than a wanna be Gold Wing.
I sometimes use risers, and sometime I don't. Unfortunately leaning forward will exacerbate the issue I have, perineum pain. The seat was made for someone with a larger ass than I have, so I sit down in it more putting pressure on the perineum. I gave them my weight and measurements when I ordered it, and told them I didn't want it dished so much, but they sent a stock seat, despite assuring me they would take my measurements into consideration. I wear riding specific pants, AGV Telluride. I had some sit bone pain when I got home Sunday, but that is easily taken care of by removing the risers so I lean over more, it will take pressure off the sit bones.
Keep in mind, I rode my RC51 long distance, so I am accustomed to leaning over and doing long days. I would ride the RC51 to Iowa in one shot, 860 miles one way, much like I do with this. I had a Sargent seat on the RC51. I had no issues with it.
The Corbin is shaped oddly for a bike you lean over on. It also has zero shock absorption for someone who weight 168 pounds. You get beat over bumps. Slightly softer foam would be better, slightly, not much. I prefer a firm seat since it doesn't break down as you ride. I am leery of getting Corbin's soft foam since I do not know how soft it is. I don;t want it too soft. If I lived close enough I would go to the factory so they could custom fit the seat. They offered but I am not close.
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A little update. I got back last night from a trip to Iowa. I rode out last Thursday and rode home yesterday. I rode straight through bith ways, 760 miles each way. I decided to use the Corbin so I could get a better idea of exactly what I wanted them to do to the seat when I send it in. I also had my bars at stock height.
This ride confirmed my belief that it needs to be built up where it is dished to level the seat out for me. This will raise me up a bit and take the soft parts off the hum, and will also raise my thighs up a bit, they were hurting where they hit the seat. I also want a bit more leg room, the Corbin sits you lower making your knees bend more. The position is very awkward for me, it is simply dished too deeply for me.
The Corbin was actually more comfortable when I first got it, before it broke in. I believe that is because I was riding more on top of it then and as it broke in and conformed to my shape, I sat down in it a bit more. I didn't have this much pain when I first received it, as a matter of fact, it felt good. Yesterday I was praying the Sargent would magically appear underneath me.
I took the handlebar risers with me, so I could put them on if I wanted. As I was riding I thought, "Did I only bring four bolts?" Sure enough, when I went to put the risers on the day before I rode home, there were only four bolts. :banghead: I had to go to the hardware store with my father anyway, so I bought two bolts. Unfortunately all they had were a lower grade and chromed. I decided that only one of a lower grade would be okay for the trip home, and I would change it out when I got home. Unfortunately, the new ones wouldn't thread in easily, evidently during the chroming process, they came out a bit oversized. One went in fairly easily, by hand, but the other would barely start. Unfortunately we had just moved my father's tools to his new garage my parents' new apartment and I didn't have any dies with me, other wise I would have chased the threads. I was there to help them move out of their house and get ready for a n auction. I decided to forget it since I didn't have a lot or time.
I'll put the Sargent back on along with the risers today.
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A little update. I got back last night from a trip to Iowa. I rode out last Thursday and rode home yesterday. I rode straight through bith ways, 760 miles each way. I decided to use the Corbin so I could get a better idea of exactly what I wanted them to do to the seat when I send it in. I also had my bars at stock height.
This ride confirmed my belief that it needs to be built up where it is dished to level the seat out for me. This will raise me up a bit and take the soft parts off the hum, and will also raise my thighs up a bit, they were hurting where they hit the seat. I also want a bit more leg room, the Corbin sits you lower making your knees bend more. The position is very awkward for me, it is simply dished too deeply for me.
The Corbin was actually more comfortable when I first got it, before it broke in. I believe that is because I was riding more on top of it then and as it broke in and conformed to my shape, I sat down in it a bit more. I didn't have this much pain when I first received it, as a matter of fact, it felt good. Yesterday I was praying the Sargent would magically appear underneath me.
I took the handlebar risers with me, so I could put them on if I wanted. As I was riding I thought, "Did I only bring four bolts?" Sure enough, when I went to put the risers on the day before I rode home, there were only four bolts. :banghead: I had to go to the hardware store with my father anyway, so I bought two bolts. Unfortunately all they had were a lower grade and chromed. I decided that only one of a lower grade would be okay for the trip home, and I would change it out when I got home. Unfortunately, the new ones wouldn't thread in easily, evidently during the chroming process, they came out a bit oversized. One went in fairly easily, by hand, but the other would barely start. Unfortunately we had just moved my father's tools to his new garage my parents' new apartment and I didn't have any dies with me, other wise I would have chased the threads. I was there to help them move out of their house and get ready for a n auction. I decided to forget it since I didn't have a lot or time.
I'll put the Sargent back on along with the risers today.
Did you lower your pegs at all ??
I ran Murph's on my first C-14 and just put Knight Design on my second...
Just that little bit from the lowered pegs helps a lot, at least for me it did (I'm 6'8")..
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A little update. I got back last night from a trip to Iowa. I rode out last Thursday and rode home yesterday. I rode straight through bith ways, 760 miles each way. I decided to use the Corbin so I could get a better idea of exactly what I wanted them to do to the seat when I send it in. I also had my bars at stock height.
This ride confirmed my belief that it needs to be built up where it is dished to level the seat out for me. This will raise me up a bit and take the soft parts off the hum, and will also raise my thighs up a bit, they were hurting where they hit the seat. I also want a bit more leg room, the Corbin sits you lower making your knees bend more. The position is very awkward for me, it is simply dished too deeply for me.
The Corbin was actually more comfortable when I first got it, before it broke in. I believe that is because I was riding more on top of it then and as it broke in and conformed to my shape, I sat down in it a bit more. I didn't have this much pain when I first received it, as a matter of fact, it felt good. Yesterday I was praying the Sargent would magically appear underneath me.
I took the handlebar risers with me, so I could put them on if I wanted. As I was riding I thought, "Did I only bring four bolts?" Sure enough, when I went to put the risers on the day before I rode home, there were only four bolts. :banghead: I had to go to the hardware store with my father anyway, so I bought two bolts. Unfortunately all they had were a lower grade and chromed. I decided that only one of a lower grade would be okay for the trip home, and I would change it out when I got home. Unfortunately, the new ones wouldn't thread in easily, evidently during the chroming process, they came out a bit oversized. One went in fairly easily, by hand, but the other would barely start. Unfortunately we had just moved my father's tools to his new garage my parents' new apartment and I didn't have any dies with me, other wise I would have chased the threads. I was there to help them move out of their house and get ready for a n auction. I decided to forget it since I didn't have a lot or time.
I'll put the Sargent back on along with the risers today.
You might also try the airhawk, I don't have one myself but I hear it works nicely on the Corbin for longer rides, it might fill that deep dish and add a little height like you described you wanted... :-\
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You might also try the airhawk, I don't have one myself but I hear it works nicely on the Corbin for longer rides, it might fill that deep dish and add a little height like you described you wanted... :-\
I would rather have the seat modified so I don't need to spend more money on an add-on to make an expensive seat comfortable. If I don't get the Corbin set up to work for me, I will simply sell it and use my Sargent. I can ride all day on it with no discomfort. I only tried the Corbin for the leather and the backrest option. I would have probably sold it already but my wife likes the seating position.
Initially the seat was more comfortable. I will most likely send it to Corbin, I have already talked to them and they have a work order on it. I wish I lived close enough to ride in quickly. It would be nice to have them see me on the bike and alter it there.
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Did you lower your pegs at all ??
I ran Murph's on my first C-14 and just put Knight Design on my second...
Just that little bit from the lowered pegs helps a lot, at least for me it did (I'm 6'8")..
No I haven't, the peg position is fine for the Sargent, but not the Corbin. If they raise the seat up a bit for me, I think it will be fine. The Corbin just puts me in an awkward position. Of course I came from riding an RC51 so I am more used to the bend. After I sort all this out I may lower the pegs. I am not nearly as tall as you, I am just under 5' 11".
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No I haven't, the peg position is fine for the Sargent, but not the Corbin. If they raise the seat up a bit for me, I think it will be fine. The Corbin just puts me in an awkward position. Of course I came from riding an RC51 so I am more used to the bend. After I sort all this out I may lower the pegs. I am not nearly as tall as you, I am just under 5' 11".
ok, good luck !! 8)
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ok, good luck !! 8)
Thanks! I'm sure if I send my seat in to Corbin, I will know in about 2 months or so. ::)
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Guys,
Whether we are talking about seats or windshields, it would help greatly
if you provide your height and inseam
Thanks
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:rotflmao: :popcorn:
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Guys,
Whether we are talking about seats or windshields, it would help greatly
if you provide your height and inseam
Thanks
Don't know if we really want to know what your's is with the name "Gigantor"! :-\
But, since you're asking, I am 6'1" with a 34 inseam and I'm getting the Sargent seat. I'll let you know how it feels and fits once I get it.
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Guys,
Whether we are talking about seats or windshields, it would help greatly
if you provide your height and inseam
Thanks
I posted earlier, Height just a hair under 5' 11". I may not have added inseam, 32". Most important in this discussion though is that I don't have a fat ass. ;D I weight in usually at 165 but at the moment am at 170. The dish of the Corbin is too deep for me, if I had more on my posterior it would lift the larger softer things up and off the seat causing less pain. :o
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Whether we are talking about seats or windshields, it would help greatly if you provide your height and inseam
They may laugh (and it is a bit funny with your nick) but you are very correct. I have requested that also in the past on such threads. Reporting one's height is almost meaningless because on a bike you are sitting. Nobody knows their torso height, but with at least an inseam added to height, you can kinda back into an overall picture. I am 5'7" but knowing I have only like a 27" inseam tells you I have short legs and a rather long torso... my sitting height is as tall as many 6 foot tall guys. Also, arm and leg length are almost always directly relational- short legs means short arms, which also GREATLY affects sitting position when holding the grips.
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Hear hear! Exactly, I think inseam is only relevant to how bendy your knees are to the pegs. Torso height has everything to do with how you sit in the pocket. We hear many requests on what combinations work as far as seat and bars and etc.. but it is so subjective to the rider and darn near impossible to say it would work for someone else unfortunately. I'm thinking about sending my Russell back in for rework as the 'wings' are bothering the crap out of me and it's pushing me too far forward into the tank. I actually asked them to do that (move me as close as possible) as that was with the original bars. Now I have the Heli STs and I don't need for the seat to do that, plus my asbestos underwear isn't working as well anymore. I can't really say that my ass has gotten bigger, at least my wife doesn't think so... As far as my belly.....sigh.
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Guys,
Whether we are talking about seats or windshields, it would help greatly
if you provide your height and inseam
Thanks
6'8" with a 38" inseam.. :)
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6'8" with a 38" inseam.. :)
You are, indeed, a big Mike
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I guess having both numbers helps if you do the math then you get an approximation of torso/neck/head but I would think we would need neck and head height plus arm length to truly get this right.
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I guess having both numbers helps if you do the math then you get an approximation of torso/neck/head but I would think we would need neck and head height plus arm length to truly get this right.
I believe there is a ratio formula that can be used to determine sitting height, torso length and arm length based on standing height and inseam. I don't know what that is, however.
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I'm sure that someone knows that but if it's an algebraic word problem I want nothing to do with it....makes my brane hurt.
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Might as well get ass width and belly protrusion numbers also.
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Hence the :rotflmao: and :popcorn: . I knew it would come to this... :yikes:
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Might as well get ass width and belly protrusion numbers also.
Do we measure just the one we sit on or the whole ass?
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You are, indeed, a big Mike
been called worse (by women).. :o
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Might as well get ass width and belly protrusion numbers also.
LOL- I think that might be overkill :)
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been called worse (by women).. :o
"That's what she said"