Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Coomers on May 26, 2014, 06:24:58 AM
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Is there a replacement spark plug other than the dealers for $19 plug?
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A quick search shows under $8 delivered.
http://tinyurl.com/kwbvyob (http://tinyurl.com/kwbvyob)
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A quick search shows under $8 delivered.
Of course, the best cost is to not replace them unless they are bad (which is probably very, very rare) :)
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Is there a replacement spark plug other than the dealers for $19 plug?
Well, you should be able to get the from a shop for $10-$12 bucks...but if they look up the plugs as a Kawasaki part, then they will be very expensive. I seem to recall paying about $12 each for them last time.
I usually change them whenever I do a valve adjust.
Rem 8)
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Iridium plugs are expensive but they last a long time. I know the manual says to replace every 7500 but that is ridiculous.
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Iridium plugs are expensive but they last a long time. I know the manual says to replace every 7500 but that is ridiculous.
Way beyond ridiculous. They should probably last at least 10 times as long.
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Way beyond ridiculous. They should probably last at least 10 times as long.
Many automobiles nowadays have spark plug change intervals of 100,000 miles. I am old enough to remember when the cars themselves didn't last that long!
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Many automobiles nowadays have spark plug change intervals of 100,000 miles. I am old enough to remember when the cars themselves didn't last that long!
That is correct. My Toyota manuals say 100,000 miles and only because the EPA mandates it- not because they are worn out.
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Well seeing as I'm heading to the blue ridge Parkway next week and know one can get them to me quickly I'm going to put the Tupperware back on and hold off. (I hate doing any maintenance just before a trip), besides I only have 28K on the bike.
Thanks,
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Well seeing as I'm heading to the blue ridge Parkway next week and know one can get them to me quickly I'm going to put the Tupperware back on and hold off. (I hate doing any maintenance just before a trip), besides I only have 28K on the bike.
Well, when you have everything apart, it is always a good idea to CHECK AND ADJUST the plugs (remove them, check condition, clean, check gap and adjust gap if necessary, reinstall with anti-seize). Just outright replacing them, though, (especially with only 28K miles) seems very strange to me.
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You can't adjust these plugs and you can't clean them unless you just want to polish the porcelain. There's nothing that needs doing. Leave them alone. They'll be fine.
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I just bought a set of Spark Plugs (NGK CR9EIA-9) from RockAuto.com and got them at a good price ($32) that included shipping and tax. In the interest of full disclosure, my daughter does work for them but that is their regular price. I happened to notice they have a Motorcycle tab and while they don't have a bunch of bike parts for the C-14 i needed plugs and thought that was a good price.
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I just bought a set of Spark Plugs (NGK CR9EIA-9) from RockAuto.com and got them at a good price ($32) that included shipping and tax. In the interest of full disclosure, my daughter does work for them but that is their regular price. I happened to notice they have a Motorcycle tab and while they don't have a bunch of bike parts for the C-14 i needed plugs and thought that was a good price.
That is a good price and certainly beats the hell out of the first post's $19 each from the dealer! Very close to the Amazon price here: http://www.amazon.com/NGK-CR9EIA-9-Iridium-Spark-Plug/dp/B001RLOE4O (http://www.amazon.com/NGK-CR9EIA-9-Iridium-Spark-Plug/dp/B001RLOE4O) at $31.4 for 4.
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Changed iridium plugs on my Scion at 90K miles. The gap was a little wider than the replacements, but I found that MPG, acceleration, etc were not improved with the new plugs. With only 25K on my C14, I doubt I will ever change the plugs. 7500 mile changes? Hell, plugs lasted longer than that on some of my old 2 strokes, and they all ate plugs for breakfast. tp
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Hahaha...pistons didn't last that long on some of the smokers.
We carried spare plugs, and knew to pull the plug cap off and set it barely onto the plug to clear fouled plugs. Which actually worked sometimes.
33,000 on the new Iridiums since I replaced them last year. Still quite crisp.
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Hahaha...pistons didn't last that long on some of the smokers.
Remember running an AT1 Yamaha 125, WFO down the road one evening and it came to a slow but sure stop. Got it home, pulled the head, and there, in the center of the piston, was a 3/4" hole. The plug was a might bit too hot. 15 minute R/R, and a cooler plug. No more problems. It became an MX'er for a while, and always did well. tp
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You can't adjust these plugs and you can't clean them unless you just want to polish the porcelain. There's nothing that needs doing. Leave them alone. They'll be fine.
really?
I checked mine for gap, and adjusted them just like any other plug... ::)
(https://www.denniskirk.com/dk/product_images/dk/600pix/dkcr9eia9b.jpg)
but now I can't find what I adjusted them too.... ??? ??? ???
I know I made sure they were all the same.... Dammit Jim....
https://youtu.be/MULMbqQ9LJ8 (https://youtu.be/MULMbqQ9LJ8)
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Got mine on Amazon $31.40 with free shipping(Prime) for a set of 4.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001RLOE4O/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001RLOE4O/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
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really?
I checked mine for gap, and adjusted them just like any other plug... ::)
(https://www.denniskirk.com/dk/product_images/dk/600pix/dkcr9eia9b.jpg)
but now I can't find what I adjusted them too.... ??? ??? ???
I know I made sure they were all the same.... Dammit Jim....
https://youtu.be/MULMbqQ9LJ8 (https://youtu.be/MULMbqQ9LJ8)
Strange, but the service manual, section 2-65, tells how to remove and reinstall new plugs and even the torque setting, but nothing about gap. Aren't many iridiums set around .040's? The ones in my Scion were at that gap. tp
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Iridium plugs are not meant to have the gap adjusted from what I recall for normal operations. However, you can 'form' the ground electrode should you wish to do so, but most of us are running these plugs way past what Kwakers recommends. If you are in the habit of going into the engine on a regular basis (for the masochists in the group), then by all means. I didn't do mine until about 50k miles or so. I couldn't tell the difference in the performance of the bike. The gap had changed, but I don't remember by how much, though.
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I replaced my plugs when I did my valves at around 30k. I don't think they needed replacing but since I was in there anyway, might as well. Will probably replace again when I do the valves again around 60k this year some time.
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The center electrode makes no difference in end- gapped plugs, and iridium plugs gap like any other, common, spark plug- by bending the outer electrode. According to the Kawasaki manual:
Electrical System
Spark Plug:
Type NGK CR9EIA-9 – – –
Gap 0.8 ∼ 0.9 mm (0.031 ∼ 0.035 in.) – – –
Mine were all gapped at 0.035" at 25K miles and all w/in 0.001" of that at 50K, when I changed them.
New plugs are all have the proper gap from the factory but I check them just in case they were bumped and have found the occasional plug with a significantly smaller gap, though never with a larger gap than spec'd.
There are a few types of spark plugs that the gap cannot be set on but they are not used in normal street vehicles. The surface gap spark plug is a great example: the gap was determined by the machining diameters and fixed by the porcelain that holds them apart. Nothing short of a vice and a hammer would alter the gap and to actually do that the plug would be ruined anyway (crushed porcelain).
https://www.google.com/search?q=surface+gap+spark+plugs&biw=1920&bih=1019&tbm=isch&imgil=7YB9ZwujC5KR1M%253A%253B1K69lrNAQzeYTM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.formula1-dictionary.net%25252Fspark-plug.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=7YB9ZwujC5KR1M%253A%252C1K69lrNAQzeYTM%252C_&usg=__6565n2NRdqC9wuy9Tji99wTA2jg%3D&ved=0CEUQyjc&ei=_3suVbaBKYarggSXgoTYDQ#imgrc=uA5jYn-89spTGM%253A%3BzKBxBC1bdI_lcM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ngkntk.co.jp%252Fenglish%252Fproduct%252Fsparkplugs%252Fsparkplugs%252Fimg%252Fpl014.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ngkntk.co.jp%252Fenglish%252Fproduct%252Fsparkplugs%252Fsparkplugs%252F%3B210%3B188 (https://www.google.com/search?q=surface+gap+spark+plugs&biw=1920&bih=1019&tbm=isch&imgil=7YB9ZwujC5KR1M%253A%253B1K69lrNAQzeYTM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.formula1-dictionary.net%25252Fspark-plug.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=7YB9ZwujC5KR1M%253A%252C1K69lrNAQzeYTM%252C_&usg=__6565n2NRdqC9wuy9Tji99wTA2jg%3D&ved=0CEUQyjc&ei=_3suVbaBKYarggSXgoTYDQ#imgrc=uA5jYn-89spTGM%253A%3BzKBxBC1bdI_lcM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ngkntk.co.jp%252Fenglish%252Fproduct%252Fsparkplugs%252Fsparkplugs%252Fimg%252Fpl014.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ngkntk.co.jp%252Fenglish%252Fproduct%252Fsparkplugs%252Fsparkplugs%252F%3B210%3B188)
Brian