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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Smokinzx14 on November 14, 2013, 05:50:09 PM
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Brock is having a sale on all Hindle pipes.. He had listed exhaust for the gen 1 zx14 .. I figured what the hell it might fit ( I was told it would not fit ) ... Well it fit great , I only had to do two little mods to make it fit .. Shim the lower rad bracket out and 1/8 of an inch and make a small bracket for the muffler hanger .. The extra power was much welcome .. It wheelies at will in first gear with a snap of the throttle and bang shift second it sets the tire on fire .. It's not loud at all , very deep tone but not loud .. I'm sure it knocked off a good bit of weight over the stock exhaust also ..
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:)
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;D I could not believe how small the factory header was compared to a stock ZX14R .. Looks like it should have come on a 600 and not a 1400 ... :o
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You have your own bike lift? I'm jealous....
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Very cool, grats! 8) :chugbeer:
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Very cool, grats! 8) :chugbeer:
Thank you ... Figured you guys would like to know about it .. Brocks still has a few left at 20% off ...
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How much louder than stock is it, when you are cruising? I like to listen to my tunes via blutooth and don't want to have the music drowned out by the exhaust.
I also agree with comment about the header pipes- they are about the same size as the pipes on my '80 GS 550e.
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How much louder than stock is it, when you are cruising? I like to listen to my tunes via blutooth and don't want to have the music drowned out by the exhaust.
I also agree with comment about the header pipes- they are about the same size as the pipes on my '80 GS 550e.
Not loud at all , very very deep tone on power , on cruising hardly any sound at all ..
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pipe size ... :o
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Nice work! Great that you shared.
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pipe size ... :o
Wow- quite a diameter AND layout difference (of course the layout difference will be the 4 into 2 for ZX dual exhaust instead of the 4 into 2 into 1 for the C14 single exhaust). Thanks for sharing that photo.
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pipe size ... :o
That's what she said... ;)
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What did you do for a fuel map? PCV?
So we now have several sources for an improved header. Muzzy, AreaP, Hindle and ZX14?
It would be nice to hear a few of these side by side or ride together at the Nationals. ;D
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What did you do for a fuel map? PCV?
So we now have several sources for an improved header. Muzzy, AreaP, Hindle and ZX14?
It would be nice to hear a few of these side by side or ride together at the Nationals. ;D
+1!
what else you have done, or plan to?
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What did you do for a fuel map? PCV?
So we now have several sources for an improved header. Muzzy, AreaP, Hindle and ZX14?
It would be nice to hear a few of these side by side or ride together at the Nationals. ;D
Working on a P/C and mapping soon ..I may work with Don Guhl on this and have him do a fuel tune with the ECU and skip the P/C ..
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what else you have done, or plan to?
Well seeing that i'm a racer and do lots of testing for aftermarket company's , I will do it just like I do all my testing .. I have base lined the bike totally stock at the track , now I will return to the track with just the pipe and NO tuning and see what we get .. Next will be a tune either by P/C or ECU ( maybe both ) and see what we get .. Some dyno time will also need to take place to back up the track numbers .. Once all that has happened I will need to do some street riding to make sure the mapping or ECU tune is spot on for a smooth riding bike..
I know most of you guys are not looking for a drag bike, but I know you do want extra useable power on the street ..( don't we all ? ) :)
http://youtu.be/iaNXhtzJWY8 (http://youtu.be/iaNXhtzJWY8)
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Looked into ZX14 TBs?
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Looked into ZX14 TBs?
I have a set of new ZX14 TBs .. are the C14 smaller ? The zx14R are 44mm..
I just looked it up , the c14 are 40mm .... hummmmm might be some power with the zx14 44mm TB
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Ok I got some weights for the stock exhaust Vs the Hindle pipe ... stock 32 pounds , hindle 8 pounds .. So there is a 24 pound weight savings .. :)
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I have a set of new ZX14 TBs .. are the C14 smaller ? The zx14R are 44mm..
I just looked it up , the c14 are 40mm .... hummmmm might be some power with the zx14 44mm TB
Yes. I dyno'd 161.5 RWHP. There's more there, I believe that more air into the airbox is needed, but too lazy so far to further explore.
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Yes. I dyno'd 161.5 RWHP. There's more there, I believe that more air into the airbox is needed, but too lazy so far to further explore.
Thanks for the info ... :)
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There's also the plugging the TBs where the secondary fly rod goes through, or knife edging the rod itself. I want to say they have opened the TBs up to 48mm and did some polishing. And of course, velocity stacks. I can see 175 RWHP naturally aspirated before the ram air effect if only we can get the air to the TBs and a good tune. When you speak/work with Guhls, ask them about upping the RPMs, color me wrong but I see no reason we can't get another 1k out of the motor. But, it still comes down to air in.
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Ok the numbers are in ... Best all stock 7.00 @ 101 ... With just the Hindle pipe 6.77@105.44
Picked up over 2 tenths and 4 MPH ... Better than I had hoped for ... :chugbeer:
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Ok the numbers are in ... Best all stock 7.00 @ 101 ... With just the Hindle pipe 6.77@105.44
Maybe I am dense, but those C14 numbers can't be the standard 1/4 mile trap. So what are they? Stock C14 is 0-100 MPH in 6.8 seconds.... but I don't think that is what you are reporting either (or you wouldn't be posting speeds of over 100).
From my research, the best stock 1/4mi number (which I believe and was repeated) is 10.76@126MPH.
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Maybe I am dense, but those C14 numbers can't be the standard 1/4 mile trap. So what are they? Stock C14 is 0-100 MPH in 6.8 seconds.... but I don't think that is what you are reporting either (or you wouldn't be posting speeds of over 100).
From my research, the best stock 1/4mi number (which I believe and was repeated) is 10.76@126MPH.
It's a 1/8 mile track ...Based on my 1/8 mile numbers the bike should run 10.50s in the 1/4 mile .. I will be testing at our 1/4 mile track soon and report back ..
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It's a 1/8 mile track
OK, that important piece of info does make quite a difference :)