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Title: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: Toxz Qwaste on November 05, 2013, 09:47:57 AM
Anyone doing this? I have a 275 gal tank and was wondering if I can add a few gallons of filtered waste auto oil without damaging anything. I've seen 100% waste oil mixed with a little acetone used in a home burner without any special tuning to the unit. I don't want to do that. Just want to get some use from my waste oil instead of paying to get rid of it.
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: timsatx on November 05, 2013, 09:54:28 AM
You can't take it to Autozone? They take it for free.
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 05, 2013, 10:16:56 AM
I'm not sure I'd want to burn waste oil (filtered how?) in a heating system that's designed for home heating oil...no telling what it would do to it (clog up a nozzle, filter, what have you)....
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: sherob on November 05, 2013, 01:29:19 PM
There are additives in motor oil that will cause you some major problems... plus motor oil burns at a higher temp than regular home heating oil.

You need a furnace that is specifically made to burn the stuff... we have a radiator shop in town that I drop my oil off at.
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: Rhino on November 05, 2013, 01:37:18 PM
Just about any place that sells oil, Walmart, O'Reilly's, Autozone, etc will take up to 5 gallons at a time.
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: 2fast on November 05, 2013, 04:41:45 PM
The savings is not worth the risk of screwing up your oil heating system. There are specially designed oil heaters that will burn all kinds of junk oil, but they are different than what you have. If you muck up your system, the repair will cost far more than the few bucks you might save.  YMMV
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: B.D.F. on November 05, 2013, 05:00:44 PM
Yeah, I really hear you on that.

1) We burn petroleum products to heat our home / domestic hot water and it costs around $3.50 / gallon.
2) We have buckets of petroleum products that we have to go somewhere to actually get ride of.
3) If A=B, and B=C, what can we say about A and C? How long can it be before one wonders if pouring just a [bit, tad, scoosh] of that waste petroluem product into the tank that we have to pay to fill?

Bad idea though 'cause the oil contains fines that really should not go through the oil burner and it is too thick (even well diluted) to push much of it through the filters in the system. And really, if you are going to use little enough of the pit oil to not harm the system, how much can it be worth in real dollars? But I do sympathize and have often considered the same thing.

Now I once heard of a guy who used to start wood fires in a wood burning stove with pit oil. Seems this fellow poured a [tad, bit, dribble, spot, scooche] directly onto the wood pile before setting the whole mess alight. It seemed to work OK but you could hear the oil boiling and finally sizzling really quite loudly once it was engulfed. The smoke was not really bad either. But that fellow went over to a woodstove that uses a catalyst and those durned things just cost too much to plate them with tin from the pit oil :-(

Brian

Anyone doing this? I have a 275 gal tank and was wondering if I can add a few gallons of filtered waste auto oil without damaging anything. I've seen 100% waste oil mixed with a little acetone used in a home burner without any special tuning to the unit. I don't want to do that. Just want to get some use from my waste oil instead of paying to get rid of it.
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: stevewfl on November 05, 2013, 06:51:01 PM
I don't understand this heating oil phenomenon  :D
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: B.D.F. on November 05, 2013, 09:16:39 PM
It is the liquid form of the stuff (coal) you run through your power plants to provide electricity for air conditioning so Florida et al., are can reach the approximate conditions necessary for humans to live in if not actually thrive.

 ;D

Brian

I don't understand this heating oil phenomenon  :D
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: stevewfl on November 06, 2013, 07:34:27 AM
It is the liquid form of the stuff (coal) you run through your power plants to provide electricity for air conditioning so Florida et al., are can reach the approximate conditions necessary for humans to live in if not actually thrive.

 ;D

Brian


OHHHHHH  thanks!   :D
Title: Re: mixing waste oil with home heating oil
Post by: Bergmen on November 06, 2013, 11:33:14 AM
I don't understand this heating oil phenomenon  :D

Where we live (rural California) there are two options: propane or fuel oil (red diesel). Some of our neighbors are on propane, we have a 500 gallon red diesel tank alongside the house. Both require visits by fuel trucks to replenish (as needed).

Dan