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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Zteve on August 26, 2013, 04:58:13 AM

Title: C14 Track Day
Post by: Zteve on August 26, 2013, 04:58:13 AM
Did a track day with the C14. Some of the sport bikes found it very hard to get by the big bike. Ha Ha!
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: The Pope on August 26, 2013, 07:32:46 AM
Get'em!  :finger_fing11:
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Rhino on August 26, 2013, 08:09:34 AM
Looks like a blast. Wish there was a track near me.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: bhodge10 on August 26, 2013, 08:44:02 AM
Sweet, my buddy and I are going to be doing a track day soon and this just gets me more excited about it.

08 C14
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Conrad on August 26, 2013, 09:43:17 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: jamiemac on August 26, 2013, 03:23:14 PM
Yes! Very neato!
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: tweeter55 on August 26, 2013, 04:43:14 PM
Didn't happen to take a GoPro with you did you?
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Zteve on August 26, 2013, 07:49:41 PM
Didn't happen to take a GoPro with you did you?

Wish I had one.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: tweeter55 on August 26, 2013, 07:59:33 PM
+1 on that.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: feelergaugephil on August 26, 2013, 08:06:58 PM
AAA+++
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Spanky on August 26, 2013, 10:36:52 PM
Does anyone know how going on a track affects personal health insurance and coverage of the bike? I imagine this depends on individual policies, but I am wondering how insurance treats this on average. Is coverage available for track sessions if most policies are not liable if an accident occurs on the track? Thanks for any input.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Zteve on August 27, 2013, 04:28:52 AM
Does anyone know how going on a track affects personal health insurance and coverage of the bike? I imagine this depends on individual policies, but I am wondering how insurance treats this on average. Is coverage available for track sessions if most policies are not liable if an accident occurs on the track? Thanks for any input.

I think that would be the "don't ask don't tell policy" :rotflmao:
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: gPink on August 27, 2013, 04:40:04 AM
One would think that if said track day was billed as a safety course and not a racing venue insurance would not be affected.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: tweeter55 on August 27, 2013, 04:41:19 AM
Don't ask, don't tell about what?
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Conrad on August 27, 2013, 05:04:10 AM
Don't ask, don't tell about what?

That's the spirit!
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Rhino on August 27, 2013, 08:08:10 AM
Does anyone know how going on a track affects personal health insurance and coverage of the bike? I imagine this depends on individual policies, but I am wondering how insurance treats this on average. Is coverage available for track sessions if most policies are not liable if an accident occurs on the track? Thanks for any input.

I'm not an expert but:

1. no effect on personal health insurance
2. may effect cost of life insurance if done repeatedly and they know about it
3. I know my vehicle insurance does not cover racing. Is track day racing or rider training? IDK But I would bet that if you wrecked on the track they would try not to cover the cost of the vehicle.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: tweeter55 on August 27, 2013, 11:14:42 AM
I have never taken an advanced rider course. Just curious, do they furnish the bikes or do you bring your own? if you supply your own what would be the difference?
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Rhino on August 27, 2013, 11:28:18 AM
I have never taken an advanced rider course. Just curious, do they furnish the bikes or do you bring your own? if you supply your own what would be the difference?

I have taken the MOST advanced rider course and you bring your own. It was just the riding only part of the basic course but with your own bike.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: basmntdweller on August 27, 2013, 02:17:42 PM
I did a couple track days on my Connie. I checked ahead of time with my insurance agent. He checked with the parent company and they said bike is not covered at any time on any form of race track no matter the reason.

OP, you have lots of lean angle and it appears hard parts not far from hitting. Getting your head and upper body down lower and inside will help get the bike more upright for more clearance and allow for more corner speed. My avatar is from my first track day and nearly same body position as yours. Proper form comes with time and I'm still not there, yet!
I ended up getting an older CBR600RR for my track ventures. It's been a few weeks and I am jonesn' for more track time.

Matt
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Son of Pappy on August 27, 2013, 03:41:38 PM
http://www.turkphotos.com/Rally-in-the-Gorge-2013/Maryhill10am (http://www.turkphotos.com/Rally-in-the-Gorge-2013/Maryhill10am)
Find the Connie  ;D  And who can spot Lee Parks?

FWIW, in regards insurance and track days, if the class is geared towards improving street skills the insurance SHOULDN'T be an issue, (but I would ask your company if this is something that concerns you, but if you trust internet folk lore?) speaking for the school I work for we have 2-3 Advanced Street Skills on a track, it isn't a track day, it is a day about enhancing the cornering skills that keep killing riders at an alarming rate.  Discovering the vanishing point, entry speed, entry point, body positioning, and everything else that goes into a successfull corner on the street.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Rhino on August 27, 2013, 04:03:27 PM
I did a couple track days on my Connie. I checked ahead of time with my insurance agent. He checked with the parent company and they said bike is not covered at any time on any form of race track no matter the reason.

OP, you have lots of lean angle and it appears hard parts not far from hitting. Getting your head and upper body down lower and inside will help get the bike more upright for more clearance and allow for more corner speed. My avatar is from my first track day and nearly same body position as yours. Proper form comes with time and I'm still not there, yet!
I ended up getting an older CBR600RR for my track ventures. It's been a few weeks and I am jonesn' for more track time.

Matt

No surprise there.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Zteve on August 27, 2013, 05:43:34 PM
I did a couple track days on my Connie. I checked ahead of time with my insurance agent. He checked with the parent company and they said bike is not covered at any time on any form of race track no matter the reason.

OP, you have lots of lean angle and it appears hard parts not far from hitting. Getting your head and upper body down lower and inside will help get the bike more upright for more clearance and allow for more corner speed. My avatar is from my first track day and nearly same body position as yours. Proper form comes with time and I'm still not there, yet!
I ended up getting an older CBR600RR for my track ventures. It's been a few weeks and I am jonesn' for more track time.

Matt
Hey there's a few more degrees before the feelers touch  ;D Once I got used to the track layout I was leaning with the best of em. The Connie is a big girl and hard to straddle ;). The bars are a little high to get down very low but the big bike can definitely lean.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: stevewfl on August 28, 2013, 10:14:01 PM
Nice pics!

bike coverage on track? depends on the insurance company.  track days are  considered "rider training" by some.  and I'm not an insurance agent nor expert but I've been covered on the track before.  (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/bigthumb.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/stevewfl/media/bigthumb.gif.html)
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: JS_racer on August 29, 2013, 04:59:14 AM
for my track days, progressive confirmed that if it was for rider training and skills and not competitive than i was covered.
have about 50hrs of track time, no issues though to test the insurance out.
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: orangewingnut on September 03, 2013, 02:20:38 PM
Did a track day with the C14. Some of the sport bikes found it very hard to get by the big bike. Ha Ha!

i did a track day yesterday at NJ Motorsports Park in Millville, NJ. It was a Tony's track day. Great experience and i would recommend it to anyone that wants to improve their steet riding. Great instructors and lots of track time.

Bill
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Zteve on September 03, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
i did a track day yesterday at NJ Motorsports Park in Millville, NJ. It was a Tony's track day. Great experience and i would recommend it to anyone that wants to improve their steet riding. Great instructors and lots of track time.

Bill

Absolutely  :chugbeer:
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: marku8a on September 03, 2013, 09:30:26 PM
speaking for the school I work for we have 2-3 Advanced Street Skills on a track, it isn't a track day, it is a day about enhancing the cornering skills that keep killing riders at an alarming rate.  Discovering the vanishing point, entry speed, entry point, body positioning, and everything else that goes into a successfull corner on the street.

I attended a Keith Code 2 day class a few years ago at Willow Springs CA. This was before my Connie on a CBR 929. I have been riding a very long time but learned a lot at the class. The Vanishing point technique is something I hadn't heard about before. Also learned to look very far ahead, more so than most people are accustomed to. Both techniques are transferable to everyday street riding and pretty amazing at minimizing surprises. In fact I find myself doing the same driving and cycling. I am thinking of taking the Code classes again except on my Connie.

Mark
Title: Re: C14 Track Day
Post by: Son of Pappy on September 04, 2013, 06:41:57 PM
Vanishing point is clues as to direction of road as soon as possible.  Be it the edge of the road, tree lines, power lines, or anything that may be an indicator.  Heck, sometimes it's a lack of something.  Example, you come around a corner and off in the distance you see the right lip of the road longer than the left, indicates a left handed corner.  Nothing rock solid, but helpful in setting up early for the next bend in the road.